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smokedareefer

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tinderthumbs said:
u need 180 f to decarb right??
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I'd like to read details about the winterization.
From what I have read and attempted, oil is dissolved in ethanol and chilled for several hours.
Congealed material is then filtered out.

I had problems with the filtering.
I always have problems with filtering.
Even have a vacuum filter rig that I can't get to work.

Let's talk filtering.
 
Two.Bears

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smokedareefer said:
two parts to decarboxylation, time and temperature

rmoltis discribed method has not met neither to be called rso.

rso has been fully decarbed by heat

if you have read the book or watched the video those few drops of water added to the rso near the end boil is so you can visually see when total decarboxylation is complete.
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Sorry son but tge drops of water has nothing to do with decarboxolation. It is decarbed during tge long slow evaporation process in tge rice cooker. The water is added so the person making RSO knows the solvent has been purged.

When @rmoltis heats the oil the oil gets hot very quickly and it takes a LOT less time to decarb that it would taken to convert THC A to THC in buds in the oven.

I suggest you take time to learn and experience instead of acting like a know it all.

The thing about RSO is effectiveness. It works or it doesnt. Rmoltis knows if works by the effects he feels, and by observation of the cat after taking the medicine.

He KNOWS it works. I know it works when i use my vaporizer or vape my eJuice.

In my wax Atomizer it is only heated 3-7 seconds.

All you have is an opinion it is not decarbed. We know it has been decarbed by observation and experience.

I will go with observation and experience any day over opinion.
 
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rmoltis said:
Rick Simpsons recipe has changed over the years he used to say don't decarb.

My rso is a combination of the thca and the activated thc.

That way I get both worlds.
They say thca is more available to the body. But that the thc passes the blood brain barrier.

So having a combo is perfect.
I've eaten it and felt very good for quite a few hours so I know it works.

And it wouldn't get me high if it wasn't decarbed at all. The purging process is about 1hr long followed by 5 mins of boiling at the end. Suppose I could just leave it at boiling the whole time.

But then I'd only have half what I want instead of the combo.

It really boils down to what you want/ how you want to tailor the cannabinoid profile.

Our kitty has cancer so having the combo is ideal. I want to minimize terpenes loss since their role in helping the other cannabinoids do their job in the body is important.

So think of this as my own recipe based on my personal beliefs/needs.
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Ive made RSO and my purging process takes at least an hour. More like 90 minutes.
 
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Dunge said:
I'd like to read details about the winterization.
From what I have read and attempted, oil is dissolved in ethanol and chilled for several hours.
Congealed material is then filtered out.

I had problems with the filtering.
I always have problems with filtering.
Even have a vacuum filter rig that I can't get to work.

Let's talk filtering.
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When i winterize i put the liquid in the freezer for about 6 hours so tge impurities can get trapped in ice crystals, abd stick to tge wall and bottom of the jar.

I do the filtration still in ther freezer so the ice crystals have NO chance to melt and return to liquid form.
 
smokedareefer

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according to the rso team a tempertature greater than 200 deg for 5 min is reguired for a
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smokedareefer said:
can you be a little more specific about "time you mention, and what do you mean by "heat",
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Basically buds in a jar with no heat exposure will naturally decarb over time.

Left in a warmer temperature would increase that rate.

Exposure to light will increase this too.
 
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still not getting that nice amber color Im looking for so I have bubble bags on there way cant wait to try them out
 
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smokedareefer said:
according to the rso team a tempertature greater than 200 deg for 5 min is reguired for a View attachment 666498 View attachment 666499 "full decarb."
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I don't think it takes 5 minutes at 200 degrees.

Weed can be decarbed as low as 180 degrees but will take longer to decarb.

When @rmoltis purges hus RSO it takes over an hour. When i purge my QWISO it takes about about two hours

Most dabs are at 300-400 degrees Fahrenheit and is decarbed in seconds

Lower Temperature dabs gives you more of the terpenes.

When pressing Rosin. For stable Rosin they press at 230-240 degrees for 15 seconds.

But as i said earlier there is a big difference in decarbing buds and decarbing Hash oil. The difference is the heat has to penetrate the buds and decarb the resin trapped in the buds.

Decarbing a thin layer of RSO or QWISO it happens much quicker.

If you want to ruin your medicine by getting it that hot for that long be my guest.

What i do works for me, and what @rmoltis does works for him.
 
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rmoltis said:
Basically buds in a jar with no heat exposure will naturally decarb over time.
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i agree, but its a bell curve and they will mature and die at a different rate over that time.

like i said earlier, if your getting a consistent shatter type then youve nailed it. but imo, what you have is a partially decarbed shatter because. #1 not enough heat because in a water bath boiling your silicone sample will be 200 deg at best??

heres what i do know, below is a snap of a well known US patent. the second, table 4 shows real numbers and times to decarb flower.

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Two.Bears said:
Here is a decarboxolation chart. According to this 176 degrees will decarb Hash oil in less than a minute. At 290 degrees it only takes 7 seconds

That is what i mean by heat and time.
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your reading the chart wrong. line 1 although it is a very big curve, its almost a straight line and after 51 minutes has barley moved. the objective is to get up to maybe 14 or 15 in the left hand column
 
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smokedareefer said:
i agree, but its a bell curve and they will mature and die at a different rate over that time.

like i said earlier, if your getting a consistent shatter type then youve nailed it. but imo, what you have is a partially decarbed shatter because. #1 not enough heat because in a water bath boiling your silicone sample will be 200 deg at best??

heres what i do know, below is a snap of a well known US patent. the second, table 4 shows real numbers and times to decarb flower.

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I mean NO insulat. But how many times do we have to tell you.

WE ARE NOT DECARBING FLOWER!

we are decarbing it in its liquid state and about 1/16 of an inch thick.

Can you wrap your head around the difference? If you can't we got nothing to talk about. It goes back to the difference between experience and opinion.
 
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