Clones Sexing At 3 Weeks After Transplanting

Dutchcity · Mar 19, 2018

Shawnery said:
Pics or it didn't happen!
Every yellow spot used to be an entire leaf that looked the same way.
The first plant is the same exact plant as earlier. I understand it's still not perfect but the difference is noticeable.

Again my “opinion” but that speckling in all my experience damage is caused by thrips...

Shawnery · Mar 19, 2018

Treating with neem to be sure either way but I still can't find any.

Wisher619 · Mar 19, 2018

Shawnery said:
I looked around on here and I found for AN Rhino Skin they added 5.5ml for 3 gallons. I've also read that a given is 1tsp - 5ml per gallon which is a almost triple of what is stated in my first sentencw.

when used I use it at around 5ml per gal which brings that particular nutrient up to 5.8ph that is for botanical CNS17

use silica for ph up...if no ph is needed than don't use it

Wisher619 · Mar 19, 2018

Shawnery said:
Sounds good! The way it's growing that will take two days.

Hope it goes well.

Will update in a few days or next time, hopefully never, they crash.

to be honest....7 days is my guess

Wisher619 · Mar 19, 2018

here is what you need to do for your nutrients

his recipe calls for 1100g Calnit
drop your Calnit to 600g so that your N will drop to 100ppm he is running it @ 200ppm which is way to high for cannabis

Dutchcity · Mar 19, 2018

Read through all he comments here...Again. Looked at those photos again ... and I think two things:

Flush all system water and start over with your source water. get to the recommend ec value for the fertilizer you are using by mixing a and b in proper proportions a little at a time until ec is achieved. Add a little cal mag. Ph adjust. DONE. wait and see results. I would steer clear of adding anything else, although maybe it would work for you, it just makes sense to dial in the basic recipe and then fine tune. KISS KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.

And no, your lights are not too close, you don’t have light stress.

Shawnery · Mar 19, 2018

There is no reason to flush my system, none!

Wisher619 · Mar 19, 2018

yeah dont flush
did you watch the video I posted
good stuff
exactly what you are using

real easy
Part A 1gal
600g hydro
300g epsom

part B 1gal
600g CalNit

then you can add each in equal to get to desired ppm

Shawnery · Mar 19, 2018

I also split the difference on the distance between my lights and the plants. They were 3 feet when I moved them incase my lights were causing the issue. I've moved them back to 18" from the highest one. If they react well then I will keep with it but if they react badly I'll move them back up a bit.

I just don't want them to start stretching because they're to far away. Right now there tight and bushy and I would love to nurture that shape.

P.s. The ppm's dropped 10 points from yesterday which isn't much but I assume it's a good sign.

Wisher619 · Mar 19, 2018

Shawnery said:
I also split the difference on the distance between my lights and the plants. They were 3 feet when I moved them incase my lights were causing the issue. I've moved them back to 18" from the highest one. If they react well then I will keep with it but if they react badly I'll move them back up a bit.

I just don't want them to start stretching because they're to far away. Right now there tight and bushy and I would love to nurture that shape.

P.s. The ppm's dropped 10 points from yesterday which isn't much but I assume it's a good sign.

stretching is what you want
you dont want them to compact
you have to straddle the line
24" is a good hight from the canopy

Shawnery · Mar 19, 2018

First bush as small plant and then LST to give them room to flourish or that was the plan.

Wisher619 · Mar 19, 2018

Shawnery said:
First bush as small plant and then LST to give them room to flourish or that was the plan.

um
I am not sure where you have been getting your technique info from
there are many different ways to skin a cat so to speak but usually not mini bush then LST

here are my clones
I am flipping this sunday
this week I will be selectively taking off the very top fan leaves...slowing down that particular cola and allowing lowers to catch up
by next sunday
I will trim all nodes up to the top 4 per cola and flip
the plant will then grow nothing but top colas

Shawnery · Mar 20, 2018

I'm going for 8 colas. Last time I scrogged and did alright. This time I want to tie down 8 stems to the sides of the lid. 4 stems around the middle and 4 stems around the outsidea!

Dutchcity · Mar 20, 2018

Your plants looking any better?

madgrower · Mar 20, 2018

Dutchcity said:
Your plants looking any better?

https://giphy.com/gifs/funny-the-waterboy-thewaterboy-OFFE4lrSL05z2

CaliRooted · Mar 20, 2018

Not everyone has a green thumb

Shawnery · Mar 21, 2018

All I can say is Boom mother******* and I mean that in the I'm freaking ecstatic way not in the i-told-you-so way.

The plants look like night and day. There is no longer a tinge of yellow on anything except for the leaves that were already dying at the bottom from before. I'm even amazed that most of my leaves that were affected got better. I thought damage leaves didn't recuperate but I guess they do.

So about 3 days ago I raise my lights and then two days ago I raise my PPM 150 and then yesterday I lowered my lights again to a foot-and-a-half above the top of the plants. No shit from yesterday to today the lower stems the secondary ones all grew at least 3 in in 24 hours. I don't know if that's normal or really good it's just the fact.

Another great sign that I made the right choice in upping my nutrients is my Solutions PPM has dropped 30 points in 24 hours. If raising the PPM was the wrong choice I'm pretty sure that wouldn't have happened unless I'm wrong?

Yesterday also added silica in the form of AN Rhino Skin. Pictures to follow as soon as I get home.

madgrower · Mar 21, 2018

Shawnery said:
All I can say is Boom mother******* and I mean that in the I'm freaking ecstatic way not in the i-told-you-so way.

The plants look like night and day. There is no longer a tinge of yellow on anything except for the leaves that were already dying at the bottom from before. I'm even amazed that most of my leaves that were affected got better. I thought damage leaves didn't recuperate but I guess they do.

So about 3 days ago I raise my lights and then two days ago I raise my PPM 150 and then yesterday I lowered my lights again to a foot-and-a-half above the top of the plants. No shit from yesterday to today the lower stems the secondary ones all grew at least 3 in in 24 hours. I don't know if that's normal or really good it's just the fact.

Another great sign that I made the right choice in upping my nutrients is my Solutions PPM has dropped 30 points in 24 hours. If raising the PPM was the wrong choice I'm pretty sure that wouldn't have happened unless I'm wrong?

Yesterday also added silica in the form of AN Rhino Skin. Pictures to follow as soon as I get home.

Great news

Shawnery · Mar 21, 2018

Patience and self belief. As long as I stick to

madgrower said:
Great news

Thanks a lot I appreciate it! It's so difficult to get it right when so many people who sound like they know what they're talking about and in fact they know what they're talking about all say different things. That's why it's so hard for me just to listen to one person and take their advice as gospel. It's not because I hold any lack of respect towards all of you it's because I'm trying to respect all of you.

Shawnery · Mar 21, 2018

So since this morning the tallest plants are showing heat stress or lumen shock. They were fine in the morning when the lights had just come on. Now it's 8 hours later and the symptoms just showed up. So I raised the light another half a foot to 2 feet. We'll see how the react tomorrow at the same time.

Other than that look at the bottom growth and this all happened in the last 24hrs. It's easy to think I lowered the lights to much considering the growth I got, more bushing out.

Here you go, be nice!

I know they're not perfect but the growth is great at least to a novice. What is considered good growth on a daily or weekly basis? Without reference all I can judge by is my own experience which is worse than nill.