12 x 1000 watt XXL 8'x24' SCROG

[UCMENOW]

Looks as though you may be over feeding, consider reducing ppm's 10-15% to allow for more water up take to increase plant metabolism.

 

[Wavegem]

Looks as though you may be over feeding, consider reducing ppm's 10-15% to allow for more water up take to increase plant metabolism.

I did that this morning, I was getting confused as the ph kept raising. Thanks UCMENOW

 

[derelict]

so much epic awesomeness in this thread! totally impressed with your work wavegem.

 

[Void]

Did some training.. Thought I would share. I think I am flipping in a week
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Love it!

VOID

 

[bobby]

Regarding your AC situation...You are experiencing the opposite of what should happen with humidity. If your AC is overpowered, you should have higher humidity. If your AC is underpowered, you should have lower humidity. This is due to the fact that your AC removes moisure from the air, so if it's underpowered, it's constantly running all the time and removing moisure from the air, all the time.

If your AC is over powered, it cycles and doesn't remove as much moisure from the air....so then you should be adding a dehumidifier, instead of a humidifier.

Am I wrong on this?

Pics from last round

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I am really excited about this run! My last had an average RH of 35%...
My A/C is a little overpowered for the space, which is the cause of my humidity problem. So I fixed this by installing an aprilaire 800 steam humidifier.

5 ton a/c
12 - 1000 watt dual spec(veg) - Digilux(bloom)
12 XXL UC
1 hp ecoplus chiller
Ideal air 100pint dehuey
Aprilaire 800
Second wind UV light
Titan Co2 Gen

Also custom fit os-1 air diffusers, 1 in each bucket and 1 ecoplus air-7 for every 4 buckets

Pics of the room

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Canna A + B
Zone
Magical
Epsom Salt
Roots Excel
Hammerhead (last round used big bud and overdrive, but want to change)
Moab


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The other 5 gal buckets in the pic will be moved soon just vegging my coco in the same room.

 

[Wavegem]

Regarding your AC situation...You are experiencing the opposite of what should happen with humidity. If your AC is overpowered, you should have higher humidity. If your AC is underpowered, you should have lower humidity. This is due to the fact that your AC removes moisure from the air, so if it's underpowered, it's constantly running all the time and removing moisure from the air, all the time.

If your AC is over powered, it cycles and doesn't remove as much moisure from the air....so then you should be adding a dehumidifier, instead of a humidifier.

Am I wrong on this?

I have come to the conclusion that my A/C is fine for the amount of heat I am putting in the room. 12 lights = 48000 btu plus my 8 burner co2 gen. I believe the problem is the size of the room, 10x30x7. This Room is to small for this big a/c, there is not enough space. By the time the a/c is done cooling rh drops 10 to 15 percent. Without the humidifiers it would never fill back up and continually drop, the lowest I have seen it, not this run but last, was 30 to 35 percent.

A couple things I am going to fix for next run, which I will document. My humidity needs to be above 80 percent never dropping only on my command. I am going to build a custom Uc system with bigger buckets preferably around 50 gal. 2, 5 site 50 gal modules on 60 inch center connected to one epicenter and res. 12 vertical lights on a flip, with my A/C Controlling both rooms. This should be epic.

 

[bobby]

Why do you need such high humidity? I would be scared to run that high in flower due to potentially creating a perfect environment for powdery mildew. Maybe it's genetics, but it you are running a kush strain, watch out for pm with humidity higher than 70%. If you insist on high humidity, atleast stay away from low temps...the pm starts in cold/humid environments.

I know several people killing it with rooms at 30%.

 

[Wavegem]

In water culture, 30 percent is way to low. You will never be able to get max growth, max feed. I agree 70 percent in flower is to high, but only when they start stacking. With 30 percent rh, the plants did not like anything over 550 ppm in peak flowering. These girls at 70-80 percent rh maxed out at 700 ppm 3rd week of veg. They also are double the size. Temperature I run the room in the low 80's.

This run I have one plant that took a hit. This solely had to do with humidity. I bumped up my feed to 700 ppm, went out of town for three days. During that time algae built up in my water line to the humidifier. My rh went from 80 to 50 for three days. When I got back most of the plants blew up faster than anything I have ever seen, but a couple of them took a turn for the worst. I knew that the feed solution burned the hell out of them. So I flushed, foliar and fixed my water line with no light leaks(an amateur mistake). I will not make this mistake again.

Water culture is much more sensitive to the environment

 

[RollinEndough]

We still wanna see the action, burnt or not.

 

[Wavegem]

here we go... beasts first, then full pics, then plants that got toasted

Day 2 of flower

This last one is the worst. man I messed this girl up, but the rest are fine.

 

[RollinEndough]

Those will recover bro. The healthy ones are going to be nuts.

 

[Shady]

Word up Wavegem! Besides that last plant those girls look sweet...

 

[Wavegem]

Thanks guys, one day every site will look the same.. practice makes perfect. :)

 

[RollinEndough]

Are they all the same pheno of Original Diesel? Seems weird that only a few show issue if so, usually they would all react the same.

 

[Wavegem]

Are they all the same pheno of Original Diesel? Seems weird that only a few show issue if so, usually they would all react the same.

Ya they are all from the same mom. Looking at the pictures, the plants with the least amount of root mass were effected the most and maybe fan placement was keeping RH low in that area, i killed all the fans we will see what happens. Thank you for the help

 

[UClover]

Maybe some regular foliar sprays to boost humidity levels and correct deficiencies?

 

[psilobuds]

shit mate, those babies have full on trunks happening! ya could use em as firewood once you're done. nice one mate.

 

[derelict]

fantastic update wavegem, your plants are monsters.

 

[RollinEndough]

Been a couple of weeks since an update, need a fix.

 

[Wavegem]

Week 3

I wish every pair looked like this!!!!

I lost a couple plants, 2 to be exact, they just keep getting worse and worse. I called my a/c guy thinking something is wrong cause I am reading 86-87 over their areas, but it has been really hot out, my ac just couldn't keep up. The rest are reading much lower 78 on the low and 82 on the high. One thing I do have to say is SCROGing is a pain in the ass, well if you got the numbers its fine but it takes a lot of work training these bitches.