2Water's Two Tents of Cannabis

[2Water]

I just thought there was a little flaw. In your reasoning! No biggie!

I didn't get the managing or herd references. What flaw in my reasoning?

 

[2Water]

oh, you edited, now I see what you are referring to. But cannabis is a dioceous plant not a mammal. Once again, I am drawing my reasoning from how the plant naturally reacts to stress and the importance of ethylene production in it to determine sex. I did not create this hypothesis, just makes sense to me and my numbers are leaning that way

 

[Oldchucky]

One male and 100 females equals 100 pollinated females. 100 males and one female equals one pollinated female. Savvy! Above, you said more males ensures their survival of the species. I just said more females does.

 

[2Water]

One male and 100 females equals 100 pollinated females. 100 males and one female equals one pollinated female. Savvy! Above, you said more males ensures their survival of the species. I just said more females does.

Not sure what you're referring to, maybe anecdotal conjecture, I'm referring to evolutionary processes.

 

[2Water]

And, for the third time... NOT MY hypothesis, it's been discussed on other boards and articles. We can discuss the science of the dioceous plant, I would love that..... but "that doesn't make sense" or using analogies not correlating to this plants just sounds dumb to me

 

[2Water]

@Oldchucky 1 male in a tent, yes. But in nature.... not so much

 

[Oldchucky]

If you think about it from the plants perspective, if they are sown in a hostile environment, more males would ensure the survival of the species, while in optimum environments, you would want a competition between the best females to advance the next generation

I guess I just read the part about more males would ensure the survival of the species.

 

[2Water]

I guess I just read the part about more males would ensure the survival of the species.

It does from an evolutionary stand point

 

[Oldchucky]

Then, I guess we agree to disagree! Grow on, brother! You’re doing a good job!

 

[Bilber]

Genetics are the main culprit for herming traits......environment/atmosphere could potentially screw with any plant.....that 🕳 is well traveled by me.....that and many other 🕳s......

 

[2Water]

all love @Oldchucky , just funny to me that out of 2 packs I've only seen 2 males (hopefully 3)

 

[2Water]

And sorry if I came off crass, been working since 7am and haven't ate yet. I'm a little hangry

 

[Oldchucky]

Well, get some chow and go buy a lottery ticket! No problem, brother! I’m retired so all I have to do is sit around here and chirp! Lol!

 

[2Water]

So, after a few grows and feeling more comfortable with growing and my rig dialed in, I think it is time for me to start focusing on my real goals in growing. I feel that everyone who uses cannabis medicinally should focus on cultivars that work best for thier individual body chemistries. In that end, it would be preferable to look for existing cultivars that work for you, but in my case I am growing for my wife and myself.


After alot of "testing" (smoking) we have been able to pinpoint specific genetics that gel for her, gel for me, and gel for us. This also opened up our eyes to the fact that different cultivars can bring different primary affects that are wanted, but also some secondary affects that we don't. That is when I started looking as the idea of crossing our own cultivars with specific outcomes in tune with our endocannabinoid systems.

The first step is finding a base parent that gels for both of us universally. Luckily, we found a regular pack and a fem pack with genetics that work from Greenpoint seeds. These being: Purple MAC (MAC 1 x Purple Punch) x MACdawg (MAC x Stardawg)

MAC 1 and Purple punch were both identified early on, and since Stardawg is a Chemdog backcross, that also is a favorite. For differing reasons, these three cultivars work for both my wife and I, but not totally. It is our hope that by crossing these cultivars we can find a foundational piece that we can build from. Nobody likes to smoke one strain all the time!

The 3 more mature plants showed female sex within one week of flip to 12/12. #7 just showed pistils and #9 is looking like a male

The plan is to pollenate one branch on each female, select the favorite after "testing," and choose that mother's seeds to select F2s. The reason for not directly pollinating the Purple MAC is to hopefully get a larger pool of males to select from and to also test what this father will pass on. Phenotypically, #3 and #9 are very similar, #4 is in between #5 and #3, and #5 and #7 look more Stardawg to me. We will smoke them all and judge by that rather than phenotypic expression.

Why Sundrops? General naming conventions would be to name it something like "Purple MACdawg," but I am not necessarily looking to cross for a specifically purple cultivar. One of my pet peeves is buying a "purple" strain and it being green So why Sundrops? My wife's name means Sun in Hmong, and I used to try to dabble at rapping under the moniker of 1Drop.... so, Sundrops!

That's it for now, this will be a long journey that I plan to devote my upcoming grows to. I will look to familial breed to F4, then reverse the best F4 female to the F3 mom. That would be an F4S1 or basically a feminized IBL right?

I hope you'll follow along and help guide me if you have suggestions. Take care my friends, and as always, be water....

 

[Dadman86]

So, after a few grows and feeling more comfortable with growing and my rig dialed in, I think it is time for me to start focusing on my real goals in growing. I feel that everyone who uses cannabis medicinally should focus on cultivars that work best for thier individual body chemistries. In that end, it would be preferable to look for existing cultivars that work for you, but in my case I am growing for my wife and myself.


After alot of "testing" (smoking) we have been able to pinpoint specific genetics that gel for her, gel for me, and gel for us. This also opened up our eyes to the fact that different cultivars can bring different primary affects that are wanted, but also some secondary affects that we don't. That is when I started looking as the idea of crossing our own cultivars with specific outcomes in tune with our endocannabinoid systems.

The first step is finding a base parent that gels for both of us universally. Luckily, we found a regular pack and a fem pack with genetics that work from Greenpoint seeds. These being: Purple MAC (MAC 1 x Purple Punch) x MACdawg (MAC x Stardawg)

MAC 1 and Purple punch were both identified early on, and since Stardawg is a Chemdawg backcross, that also is a favorite. For differing reasons, these three cultivars work for both my wife and I, but not totally. It is our hope that by crossing these cultivars we can find a foundational piece that we can build from. Nobody likes to smoke one strain all the time!

The 3 more mature plants showed female sex within one week of flip to 12/12. #7 just showed pistils and #9 is looking like a male

The plan is to pollenate one branch on each female, select the favorite after "testing," and choose that mother's seeds to select F2s. The reason for not directly pollinating the Purple MAC is to hopefully get a larger pool of males to select from and to also test what this father will pass on. Phenotypically, #3 and #9 are very similar, #4 is in between #5 and #3, and #5 and #7 look more Stardawg to me. We will smoke them all and judge by that rather than phenotypic expression.

Why Sundrops? General naming conventions would be to name it something like "Purple MACdawg," but I am not necessarily looking to cross for a specifically purple cultivar. One of my pet peeves is buying a "purple" strain and it being green So why Sundrops? My wife's name means Sun in Hmong, and I used to try to dabble at rapping under the moniker of 1Drop.... so, Sundrops!

That's it for now, this will be a long journey that I plan to devote my upcoming grows to. I will look to familial breed to F4, then reverse the best F4 female to the F3 mom. That would be an F4S1 or basically a feminized IBL right?

I hope you'll follow along and help guide me if you have suggestions. Take care my friends, and as always, be water....

That's crazy to think about. My whole smoking career I've been limited to Minnesotas market. Ive been looking into strains I want to try. There's a lot to choose!

 

[2Water]

That's crazy to think about. My whole smoking career I've been limited to Minnesotas market. Ive been looking into strains I want to try. There's a lot to choose!

There is tons! Sheesh, kind bud or stress Almost as bad as Budweiser party balls

 

[2Water]

2Water's 1 drop of Wisdom:

"In the pursuit of Knowledge, every day something is added. In the practice of the Way, every day something is dropped" from the Dao De Jing by Lao Tzu

 

[BearWater]

2Water's 1 drop of Wisdom:

"In the pursuit of Knowledge, every day something is added. In the practice of the Way, every day something is dropped" from the Dao De Jing by Lao Tzu

this was a cool post to read first thing this morning! Definitely dont understand it in its entirety but gives me some food for thought! Are we dropping something every time we learn something? Or is it a figure of speech as? Like gain a positive to loose a negative? It has to a conscious thing right?

 

[2Water]

this was a cool post to read first thing this morning! Definitely dont understand it in its entirety but gives me some food for thought! Are we dropping something every time we learn something? Or is it a figure of speech as? Like gain a positive to loose a negative? It has to a conscious thing right?

in a typical daoist response..... yes and no

I could give my interpretation on the quote, but that might sway your understanding of it. I like things that make you think, and I like sharing

 

[BearWater]

in a typical daoist response..... yes and no

I could give my interpretation on the quote, but that might sway your understanding of it. I like things that make you think, and I like sharing

Perfect answer! Keep it organic in my evolutionary understanding and interpretation. I will be coming back at some point to hopefully discuss it further in depth : )