Wow. Guess your right QB.
lol....sales pitch? I'm saying ditch the UC if you get healthier plants doing something other.Apparently I'm taking far too logical approach to this problem solving session.
Keep us abreast of your ground breaking conclusions.
viva la H&G
are you running the same strength nutes on both of those? I run my dwc buckets higher than I run my UC for sure... Not sure why the UC uses less because they seem really similar to me but that might have something to do with it?
UC needs to start selling small dumbbells with their units.
That is clearly the difference.
Sorry, I had to, I hope no one was offended.
QuarterbackMo, your dwc plants look so great. Especially that fluorescent green leaf spine. Do you happen to know what is the exact cause of that? I have been wondering this for some time.
Thanks. And again, beautiful plants.
Ok im sitting here really thinking about this... My man a few posts up said something about having a burner produce the same problem... When i had a burner on rdwc the room still was pulling fresh air in/out... Since ive had my uc's crankin the rooms have all been completely sealed with burners... Is there anybody else experiencing these symptoms that have a sealed room with burners in any medium? Im talking completely sealed with no fresh air in or out... Maybe it could by co2 gen byproducts getting the uc plants sick...This shit just got deeper now im really scratching my head...
Ok im sitting here really thinking about this... My man a few posts up said something about having a burner produce the same problem... When i had a burner on rdwc the room still was pulling fresh air in/out... Since ive had my uc's crankin the rooms have all been completely sealed with burners... Is there anybody else experiencing these symptoms that have a sealed room with burners in any medium? Im talking completely sealed with no fresh air in or out... Maybe it could by co2 gen byproducts getting the uc plants sick...This shit just got deeper now im really scratching my head...
That leaf looks pretty good but its still got that hard look you know what I mean? Mine look the same way even with no spots on them. They never just look 100% relaxed and happy for some reason. Thats a good looking leaf though dont get me wrong its just not running at full speed you can tell...I have a blower in my completed sealed room. The Co2 is not the issue, however, if you have a large humidfier in there you might be concentrating Ca as it precipitates out of solution in the air and gets deposited back into the buckets via the air pumps. Just a thought.
More importantly, here is a pick of my Bubba in my house. At one point they had the deficiencies we are all talking about, but I seem to have it beat. The aeration in this system is identical 14-20lpm/bucket as is the warehouse. In fact, this system might even have a little more aeration due to the shorter PVC airline runs.
For the longest time I was unable to get a hold of this deficiency as I was being advised not to use Calmag or to use it at extremely low levels. Since the addition of Calmag and epsom there has been dramatic improvement, although I was not seeing the same level of improvement at the warehouse. Over the course of 2 weeks I ran 0.8-0.9 EC.
Day 1 H&G base plus 0.25g/gal Epsom.
Day 4 + 0.25ml/gal Calmag
Day 6+ 0.5 ml/gal Calmag
Day 9 + H&G .5ml/gallon, 0.25mg/gallon Epsom
At this point the deficiency was no longer progressing.
Day 14 + 0.3ml/gal Epsom
Today, (Day 15) the ladies are eating 50-70ppm a day. Just topped up with H&G ) at 1ml/gal
I was running a similar profile in all of the systems at the warehouse but have been scratching my head since I assumed that both rooms were identical. Then today, I re-oriented my adjust-a-wings and immediately noticed that the light levels in my warehouse had actually been rather low as light was being thrown away from many of the buckets. Wondering if the low light levels might have been causing a Ca deficiency (seems counter-intuitive)??? Thought this was worth mentioning.
Airflow is definitely not an issue in either room my plants are always dancing and my ac power is overpowering any heat the lights burner and chiller can kick out even on the hottest summer days my room temp is solid. I got some pretty bad ass fans that move a shitload of air around.Yeah, I have dealt with sporadic leaf issues due to my co2 burner. I believe a while back you made a thread about your plant problems and my thought was c02. My burner was getting stuck on and I was seeing some of the sane results you were then. Now that I think about it, after I had that issue with my burner I got my new one in and going. I started to see smaller signs of the same issues in different areas/levels in my room, even after my levels were dialed in.. I was thinking that I wasn't getting an even distribution of c02 in my room. I moved my burner and improved my air flow around my burner to distribute c02 and the heat from the burner more evenly. I did see improvement. After that grow I broke everything down and redesigned my room completely. I placed my ac blower in my bridge outside the room along with my c02 burner. I used my ac to distribute my c02 through the rooms. I was talkin earlier about my improved health in my UC, I do feel this had a lot to do with it also. I didn't mention it earlier because you said your environment was dialed in. I think having the burner in the room gives us another element to evenly distribute. Whatchya think...
I have a blower in my completed sealed room. The Co2 is not the issue, however, if you have a large humidfier in there you might be concentrating Ca as it precipitates out of solution in the air and gets deposited back into the buckets via the air pumps. Just a thought.
More importantly, here is a pick of my Bubba in my house. At one point they had the deficiencies we are all talking about, but I seem to have it beat. The aeration in this system is identical 14-20lpm/bucket as is the warehouse. In fact, this system might even have a little more aeration due to the shorter PVC airline runs.
For the longest time I was unable to get a hold of this deficiency as I was being advised not to use Calmag or to use it at extremely low levels. Since the addition of Calmag and epsom there has been dramatic improvement, although I was not seeing the same level of improvement at the warehouse. Over the course of 2 weeks I ran 0.8-0.9 EC.
Day 1 H&G base plus 0.25g/gal Epsom.
Day 4 + 0.25ml/gal Calmag
Day 6+ 0.5 ml/gal Calmag
Day 9 + H&G .5ml/gallon, 0.25mg/gallon Epsom
At this point the deficiency was no longer progressing.
Day 14 + 0.3ml/gal Epsom
Today, (Day 15) the ladies are eating 50-70ppm a day. Just topped up with H&G ) at 1ml/gal
I was running a similar profile in all of the systems at the warehouse but have been scratching my head since I assumed that both rooms were identical. Then today, I re-oriented my adjust-a-wings and immediately noticed that the light levels in my warehouse had actually been rather low as light was being thrown away from many of the buckets. Wondering if the low light levels might have been causing a Ca deficiency (seems counter-intuitive)??? Thought this was worth mentioning.
Cultured solutions nutrients....cell phone camera or not these are as nice as it gets IMO can ask for much more...
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Nothing wrong with the UC....bogus thread...
Cultured solutions nutrients....cell phone camera or not these are as nice as it gets IMO can ask for much more...
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Nothing wrong with the UC....bogus thread...
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