Alien Genetics - Organic Feeding Program

grower2 · Dec 22, 2011

Lost Dog said:
Ship have you tried any of the other products on there? They have some interesting looking stuff.

Alien have you used any of the other Primordial Solutions products Rootamentary, Root Bloom or True Blooms?

I use Extreme's Mykos, Azos, and just grabbed a bag of CalCarb to try.

Great Stuff.

And I got a new bottle of Sea Green to give a go as per Alien's expert recommendation. I ordered straight from Primordial's website and they have Free Shipping and included a small trial of Rootamentary and True Blooms.
I haven't done anything with the trials yet though.

I read the product information on the Root Blooms and I want to try it out. High levels of pure Myco benni's. Looks like a quality product.

Lost Dog · Dec 22, 2011

FromGROtoFLO said:
What up with that pit LOST? That yours, you show or pull?

Not a pitty. Its a English Staffy. Thats just a random pic. My boy looks about the same just the white on the chest is different.

grower2 said:
I use Extreme's Mykos, Azos, and just grabbed a bag of CalCarb to try.

Great Stuff.

And I got a new bottle of Sea Green to give a go as per Alien's expert recommendation. I ordered straight from Primordial's website and they have Free Shipping and included a small trial of Rootamentary and True Blooms.

I read the product information on the Root Blooms and I want to try it out. High levels of pure Myco benni's. Looks like a quality product.

Thanks for the info.

The Extreme gear sounds pretty good. The compost tea they have looks pretty cool for someone just looking to get into tea's or doesn't have the space or time to do home brews. Also the giant pumpkin kit Cool.

I have been on the Primordial site thats where I saw their other products and was wondering if Alien has tried them. I will probably look to pick up the whole line up since they come in smaller sizes and from their mixing rates will last me awhile. Plus I can use them and finnish off the other nutes I still have. Also I can always use them on my vegetable garden.

rollon · Dec 26, 2011

hey alien ive always used pure blend pro nutrients and earth juice micro and they work great for me.. i have recently started to brew some teas and read that u cant add ph up or down without diluting it first as it can kill benificals. decided to test the ph of my nutes before adding it to the tea before watering. was somewhat surprized to see the results from the earth juice micro. added two drops of earth juice micro to the 6.5 phed water in my test kit and it came out looking like this

with a ph that low im thinking there cant be anything alive in it and if u add it to any water with benificals in it u would have to delute it first . what do u guys think?

Organicyumyum · Dec 26, 2011

rollon said:
hey alien ive always used pure blend pro nutrients and earth juice micro and they work great for me.. i have recently started to brew some teas and read that u cant add ph up or down without diluting it first as it can kill benificals. decided to test the ph of my nutes before adding it to the tea before watering. was somewhat surprized to see the results from the earth juice micro. added two drops of earth juice micro to the 6.5 phed water in my test kit and it came out looking like this

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with a ph that low im thinking there cant be anything alive in it and if u add it to any water with benificals in it u would have to delute it first . what do u guys think?

the teas that i use for foliar and soil drenches are only compost, no nutes. these compost teas are great for creating a biofilm over the plant and keeping your soil thriving and alive. as far as ph, you really shouldn't have to worry about it in soil too much. Soil is a great buffer, as I haven't used a PH meter in the past 8 years. Alien doesn't use a PH meter either. that being said, adding nutes shouldn't harm your microbes, unless they are chemical nutes. If it did, then watering with nutrients would kill the microbes in your soil. Not 100 percent sure on this, Im just trying to reason to find out an answer. Chlorine on the other hand will kill the microbes, so it's best to bubble your water or leave it out over night if using tap water for your teas. Otherwise you can use R.O. water right away.

rollon · Dec 26, 2011

Organicyumyum said:
the teas that i use for foliar and soil drenches are only compost, no nutes. these compost teas are great for creating a biofilm over the plant and keeping your soil thriving and alive. as far as ph, you really shouldn't have to worry about it in soil too much. Soil is a great buffer, as I haven't used a PH meter in the past 8 years. Alien doesn't use a PH meter either. that being said, adding nutes shouldn't harm your microbes, unless they are chemical nutes. If it did, then watering with nutrients would kill the microbes in your soil. Not 100 percent sure on this, Im just trying to reason to find out an answer. Chlorine on the other hand will kill the microbes, so it's best to bubble your water or leave it out over night if using tap water for your teas. Otherwise you can use R.O. water right away.

what up yum yum. thanks for chiming in. yeah i let my tap water sit overnight bubbling. just wanted to let anyone using the microburst know that its like ph down.

if u use tea and handwater like i do,make sure u add the microburst to the water first to dilute then the tea or u could kill benificals.
yea i dont use a meter with soil either jus the ph test drops every now and then.
only did it this time cuz the tea. hope everyone had a green christmas. peace

ace70568 · Dec 27, 2011

Whats up Alien,excellent grow method and results.I ran it once so far in smart pots but going back to beds next round.Nothing better then dirt farming with organics.I have a couple of questions,how much water at most during your bed grows do you use and where can i order big jugs of the liquid bone meal?

MEGA956 · Dec 27, 2011

//Don't know if this was already asked, but is Sea Green a substitute for liquid karma??

grower2 · Dec 27, 2011

ace70568 said:
where can i order big jugs of the liquid bone meal?

Google: liquid bone meal down to earth

It's how I found it.

You will have a couple different options.

MEGA956 said:
//Don't know if this was already asked, but is Sea Green a substitute for liquid karma??

Sea Green mainly helps with nutrient availability and uptake.

Vastly different products imo.

But is it a substitute for LK? Well, I'd say it depends on what else you are using, but there is a good possibility you could cut out the LK with using Sea Green and a proper mix of organic nutes.

MEGA956 · Dec 27, 2011

// ^ Thanks.

ace70568 · Dec 27, 2011

Can't seem to find anything bigger then 1 quart on the Down to earth liquid bone meal.

Alien · Dec 27, 2011

ace70568 said:
Can't seem to find anything bigger then 1 quart on the Down to earth liquid bone meal.

It comes in 1 gals & 2.5 gals for sure.

ace70568 · Dec 27, 2011

Hey alien,love the regimen,i got 3 quarts from one place last time and still cant find listed over a quart on any site.I may have to contact them direct or call the maker of the product to find it.Will the aggrene brand be a good replacement?It has the same N-P-k ratio.

Also,what brand of seabird quano do you use?Earth juice or Hydro Organics?

Thank's for replying so quickly

Alien · Dec 27, 2011

ace70568 said:
Hey alien,love the regimen,i got 3 quarts from one place last time and still cant find listed over a quart on any site.I may have to contact them direct or call the maker of the product to find it.Will the aggrene brand be a good replacement?It has the same N-P-k ratio.

Also,what brand of seabird quano do you use?Earth juice or Hydro Organics?

Thank's for replying so quickly

EJ and HO are the same company now...they make the primal harvest fossilized sb guano I use.

ace70568 · Dec 27, 2011

Thank's for your help keep up the great grows and have a good new years.

grower2 · Dec 27, 2011

ace70568 said:
Can't seem to find anything bigger then 1 quart on the Down to earth liquid bone meal.

humboldthydroponics.com

They carry a quart, gallon, and 2.5 gallon.

grower2 · Dec 27, 2011

Alien said:
EJ and HO are the same company now...they make the primal harvest fossilized sb guano I use.

Now, do you mix the sb guano straight into your feed mix, or do you put it in a cheese cloth or something then remove, or do you only top dress?

Alien · Dec 27, 2011

grower2 said:
Now, do you mix the sb guano straight into your feed mix, or do you put it in a cheese cloth or something then remove, or do you only top dress?

Straight in the tank...it's already been run through a 100 micron screen, so the Guano is amazingly pure and soluble. You don't see sand residue like you do with other companies SB guanos.

So I water in my nutes as usual, most goes into the beds...and the leftover guano does an automatic top dress. Simple.

You will find that once you introduce the Foss SB Guano into the regimen, your organic herb will taste and smell better...it really gets the terpenes going. You will notice a positive shift in odor in your room within 3 days of use that will only get stronger and stronger through flower.

grower2 · Dec 27, 2011

Alien said:
Straight in the tank...it's already been run through a 100 micron screen, so the Guano is amazingly pure and soluble. You don't see sand residue like you do with other companies SB guanos.

So I water in my nutes as usual, most goes into the beds...and the leftover guano does an automatic top dress. Simple.

You will find that once you introduce the Foss SB Guano into the regimen, your organic herb will taste and smell better...it really gets the terpenes going. You will notice a positive shift in odor in your room within 3 days of use that will only get stronger and stronger through flower.

Cool, thanks.

That's what I thought and wanted to check.

Your regimen has a lot of P but not much K, have you ever tried adding any K supplements to your regimen?

BNUTTHEHUT · Dec 27, 2011

Alien, have you ever tried Root Zone (Rootamentary) from P.S?

Alien · Dec 27, 2011

grower2 said:
Cool, thanks.

That's what I thought and wanted to check.

Your regimen has a lot of P but not much K, have you ever tried adding any K supplements to your regimen?

I have a lot of K in my soil, and supplement in magnesium and sulphur as well....with other things.

I am experimenting with a few new organic tricks this run....not going to comment until I have seen full results but it should only be beneficial in my opinion.

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