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Meh, not sure why you're so hung up on it. Yes it is mostly usable, but again a large portion of it isn't. I can't say that about pbp.Its bottled weed specific plant food. 6 years ago it was quite the fad in coco at the grow stores.
its mostly plant usable. Can be poured right in the medium.
? I'm lost how are organics broken down?Actually they dont. I dont add any to ocean forest and it feeds my plants for 6 weeks with just water.
there is no proof that added microbes are needed at all. Its a retail product sold on bro science.
? I'm lost how are organics broken down?
Yes I agree but whats wrong with adding? They are also naturally occurring bacteria... notbsure how adding them is a harm?By naturally occurring bacteria.
? I'm lost how are organics broken down?
? I'm lost how are organics broken down?
Yes I agree but whats wrong with adding? They are also naturally occurring bacteria... notbsure how adding them is a harm?
I'm still looking at the roots. Whats been made already available? The ingredients are all fully organic. Its not available until the microbes process it.
I agree and bacteria take time to populate. @MIMedGrower the soil you have has enough ferts in it until the microbial life can kick in. In something like coco that does not then you need to add them.You dont need to add microbes. Especially if starting with fresh vermicompost or other fresh compost. But it certainly doesn't hurt, especially when the addatives contain some things that are highly beneficial and not likely to dominate the pot naturally like trichoderma and bacillis amyloquiefens.
I wonder what is actually happening during the "cook" time recommended for supersoil mixes. Does it sit for a month because it takes that long to fully populate with wild bacteria and fungi and get tbe nutrient cycling going? Or is it just that the microbes break down insoluble food during that month?
If its the former, that would be a good reason for introducing exogenous microbes, just to jump start it.
I honestly am not sure about this but now I'm curious.
You can really be a bubble burster @MIMedGrower Lol, but I like that you're constantly making me look deeper into why I do some of the crazy things I do. I appreciate when someone is willing to call me or anyone out on their shit, because I'm well aware that everyone, myself included is susceptible to confirmation bias and believing in unverified science.
That said, Im pretty comfortable standing behind the decisions ive made for this grow. Some of it is possibly unnecessary, but maybe its helping. I do think the added microbes will help with breaking down the 4-4-4 faster. And EJ is about as fully organic as you can get in a bottle. No salts, not chemically chelated, and semi insoluble.. Its really only one foot out the door from true "water only" organics.
I'm rambling now lol. Smoking some Spiked Punch buddy brought me, its the same cut I've got. And it messes me up lol.
I agree and bacteria take time to populate. @MIMedGrower the soil you have has enough ferts in it until the microbial life can kick in. In something like coco that does not then you need to add them.
Its not that i want to burst bubbles but I want to know the truth in a muddled world of gardening bro science.
and i have nothing against earth juice or roots organic. I was considering dr. Earth 20-30-20 gold. Which is like the rest of the dry pelletized organic plant food. Well until i thought about smelly organics. And the pests they attract. I havent seen a springtail since i ditched the ocean forest.
Also i watched a video with the owner of dr. Earth and he says dont use the dry food inside in containers. Too smelly and too slow for reliable breakdown. He suggests his liquid fertilizer for containers.
anyway. I am trying the ozmocote in the next plants so i can mostly water only and use dyna grow bottles more sparingly. The chemical version of what i did with ocean forest and pbp.
And i am equally interested in your grow with earth juice. I didnt mean to sound against it. Lol
i just thought when you and @Aqua Man said teas that you were building soil. Er, coco. I assume you have access to good compost?
anyway best of luck with whatever method. As long as you are enjoying yourself its the best method ever!
toss some fish shit in there too!Yes I agree but whats wrong with adding? They are also naturally occurring bacteria... notbsure how adding them is a harm?
I'm still looking at the roots. Whats been made already available? The ingredients are all fully organic. Its not available until the microbes process it.
i know nothing but i wouldnt see it any different than if you were mixing these seperate ingredients on your own into the coco. seems pretty "organic" to me and what exactly do we mean by that? does it have to have an OMRI on it to be considered organic?Ok I need someone to explain what is not organic about the specific nutrients I linked?
i know nothing but i wouldnt see it any different than if you were mixing these seperate ingredients on your own into the coco. seems pretty "organic" to me and what exactly do we mean by that? does it have to have an OMRI on it to be considered organic?
i know nothing but i wouldnt see it any different than if you were mixing these seperate ingredients on your own into the coco. seems pretty "organic" to me and what exactly do we mean by that? does it have to have an OMRI on it to be considered organic?
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