Autos Maybe

incogneato · Jan 3, 2018

Broken said:
Maybe "you" are just over watered? :) I will have the benefit of your grow experience when I drop those PC.

I hope some of other beans pop I been known to dig them up lol Thats why I get a spout at least before I drop them now.

Yeah the ugly thing has some tiny spots on some of those ugly leafs but has some ugly new growth to which confuses me that in her shape anything new would start. I have the RH back to 50% trying to get my heater and Ink bird worked out.

Hard to see the spots in the pic. She's not that ugly, ive seen much uglier lil.

Broken · Jan 4, 2018

Dr told my mom today she had to decide if she wanted to live or die. She has not been eating because of nausea. Now she is in bad enough shape that she could use a feeding tube but because of overall health that the specialist would probably not give her one. So if she wants to live she had better force it down or die. Dr's words.

I'm lost on what to tell her. Selfish me wants to use the argument that by not eating it would be suicide or remind her years ago I promised her I would not commit suicide if she was alive because she said losing me would kill her.
Would I feel different if she had cancer or would I ask her to go through chemo and anything else just so I wouldn't lose her. Should I tell her I am ok with her not eating thus ending her suffering.

She has been sick and in pain for a few years and seen many drs who either said I don't know what else to do or just pushed more drugs that made her worse. 1 drug they gave her was Lyrica and it worked some until they maxed out the dose and the side effects were worse than the help. She went through a 1 year taper off of it and stayed miserable the whole time. Towards the end of that year she started taking opiates without a prescription a mere 20mg a day or percocet. When she came home from Florida and went to see her dr she told her she would not give her any opiates because of her compromised breathing with her already needing oxygen around the clock and unstable blood pressure. So without a supply she had to quit by tapering off in just 3 weeks and is very very hard on her probably more so because of her weight. She was only taking 20mg but she only weighs 90lb. She is tired of being sick and sick of being tired.

If you noticed there wasn't and "?" in all of it because I was more thinking out loud then asking questions.

On another note I think I may have figure out why my plants are smaller then I feel they should be and am expecting a growth spurt within 2 days.

@str8smokn I final fished all 58 pages of the Accurate Info page.
Good night all

Broken · Jan 4, 2018

@incogneato , @str8smokn , @anyone How close can I put this 600w MH ? I have it 18-20" now and have a temp of 77° but that is with a heater on in the room. If I turn the heater off the temps will drop another 5° easily during the day and 10° at night. So can I give them too much light if I turn the heater off and lower the lights until I get temps in range ?

Hope everyone is having a good day

Broken · Jan 4, 2018

@GT21 @EventHorizan ^^^^^^^ ?

incogneato · Jan 4, 2018

Broken said:
Dr told my mom today she had to decide if she wanted to live or die. She has not been eating because of nausea. Now she is in bad enough shape that she could use a feeding tube but because of overall health that the specialist would probably not give her one. So if she wants to live she had better force it down or die. Dr's words.

I'm lost on what to tell her. Selfish me wants to use the argument that by not eating it would be suicide or remind her years ago I promised her I would not commit suicide if she was alive because she said losing me would kill her.
Would I feel different if she had cancer or would I ask her to go through chemo and anything else just so I wouldn't lose her. Should I tell her I am ok with her not eating thus ending her suffering.

She has been sick and in pain for a few years and seen many drs who either said I don't know what else to do or just pushed more drugs that made her worse. 1 drug they gave her was Lyrica and it worked some until they maxed out the dose and the side effects were worse than the help. She went through a 1 year taper off of it and stayed miserable the whole time. Towards the end of that year she started taking opiates without a prescription a mere 20mg a day or percocet. When she came home from Florida and went to see her dr she told her she would not give her any opiates because of her compromised breathing with her already needing oxygen around the clock and unstable blood pressure. So without a supply she had to quit by tapering off in just 3 weeks and is very very hard on her probably more so because of her weight. She was only taking 20mg but she only weighs 90lb. She is tired of being sick and sick of being tired.

If you noticed there wasn't and "?" in all of it because I was more thinking out loud then asking questions.

On another note I think I may have figure out why my plants are smaller then I feel they should be and am expecting a growth spurt within 2 days.

@str8smokn I final fished all 58 pages of the Accurate Info page.
Good night all

Heavy stuff, sorry you have to go through it bro. Hooe the best for you.

Broken said:
@incogneato , @str8smokn , @anyone How close can I put this 600w MH ? I have it 18-20" now and have a temp of 77° but that is with a heater on in the room. If I turn the heater off the temps will drop another 5° easily during the day and 10° at night. So can I give them too much light if I turn the heater off and lower the lights until I get temps in range ?

Hope everyone is having a good day

What type of fixture is it again?

Broken · Jan 4, 2018

@incogneato its a 600w MH for now I will switch it to HPS Later. From This chart it would seem like optimal would be closer if you can get it.

incogneato · Jan 4, 2018

Broken said:
@incogneato its a 600w MH for now I will switch it to HPS Later. From This chart it would seem like optimal would be closer if you can get it.

I meant the fixture, batwing, aircooled?

GT21 · Jan 4, 2018

Broken said:
@incogneato , @str8smokn , @anyone How close can I put this 600w MH ? I have it 18-20" now and have a temp of 77° but that is with a heater on in the room. If I turn the heater off the temps will drop another 5° easily during the day and 10° at night. So can I give them too much light if I turn the heater off and lower the lights until I get temps in range ?

Hope everyone is having a good day

Put your hand under the light... raise your hand till it gets slightly warm... thats where you put it.

EventHorizan · Jan 4, 2018

18 inches batwing and 12 inches in a vented hood is about as close as you can get..

Broken · Jan 4, 2018

incogneato said:
I meant the fixture, batwing, aircooled?

Its a cool tube fixture with glass but currently no duct work hooked to them

GT21 said:
Put your hand under the light... raise your hand till it gets slightly warm... thats where you put it.

Appreciate the input. The word slightly being subjective works for making sure a person keeps the lights far enough away but I was looking for how close can I get them to maximize yield on this small setup of autos.

EventHorizan said:
18 inches batwing and 12 inches in a vented hood is about as close as you can get..

Thank you

My concern was could overdose them with light even if I keep the canopy tent under lets say 75-77°

incogneato · Jan 4, 2018

Broken said:
Its a cool tube fixture with glass but currently no duct work hooked to them

Appreciate the input. The word slightly being subjective works for making sure a person keeps the lights far enough away but I was looking for how close can I get them to maximize yield on this small setup of autos.

Thank you

My concern was could overdose them with light even if I keep the canopy tent under lets say 75-77°

I do what @GT21 suggested. Keep in mind these are just guidelines. Every room,strain, etc is different and will react differently. If its hot to the back of your hand it will be hot for them.

Broken · Jan 5, 2018

incogneato said:
I do what @GT21 suggested. Keep in mind these are just guidelines. Every room,strain, etc is different and will react differently. If its hot to the back of your hand it will be hot for them.

Thanks bro. My room without a heater on and lights off for 4 hours would probably drop into the low 50's. I have the lights at 15 inches right now with canopy under 80 easily. The room its self is maybe 70 and lights will go out at 1:00 by 1:30 temps will be down to 60's without the heater so I try to adjust to keep everything between 70-80. I moved years ago to escape these temps but didn't go far enough it seems.

I value all of you guy's opinions even when they are not the same or I would not tag you when asking a question. I also appreciate the fact that even with descriptions no one can give truly specific info about a room they are not in.

I am watching these things like a fat kid on cake well like me on cake :) Now let me tell you how I screwed up and held these plants back a bit.

I got one tracked minded since my first plant that the most often mistake was over watering. So I had read this time how I needed these auto's to start in large pots. Now reading this set off another bit of advice that a large pot and small pot was often the cause of over watering.

So I filled my pots after mixing the soil with extra pearlite. I added a couple ounces of water to the center and in the tiny seedlings went. The next 3 weeks I never added enough water to allow the roots to spread out and pretty much made it the same as if I would have stuck them in a small cup. The soil outside of this small circle I hadn't watered.
Not once had I watered to run off. (Somehow I must of watered the ugly one at least double one night but only in the center of the pot.) 8 ounces is the most I had given per pot all the way up until last night. I checked and decided they needed water and realized the plants were bigger and could handle more water. I ph'ed 2 gallon of water and started very slowly adding 16 ounces to each pot spread across the entire pot. Then after waiting 15 minutes I started over at the beginning and they all took another 16 +/-oz before I got a little run off.
They all looked better today. I did not water little ugly as she is still trying to dry out somehow.

So no one should worry about me killing my plants following their advice as I can screw up even with the best advice. I won't blame anyone but me if they die for some reason.

Thank you all for stopping in and offering your help.

@jipp Where are you bud?

EventHorizan · Jan 5, 2018

Broken said:
Thanks bro. My room without a heater on and lights off for 4 hours would probably drop into the low 50's. I have the lights at 15 inches right now with canopy under 80 easily. The room its self is maybe 70 and lights will go out at 1:00 by 1:30 temps will be down to 60's without the heater so I try to adjust to keep everything between 70-80. I moved years ago to escape these temps but didn't go far enough it seems.

I value all of you guy's opinions even when they are not the same or I would not tag you when asking a question. I also appreciate the fact that even with descriptions no one can give truly specific info about a room they are not in.

I am watching these things like a fat kid on cake well like me on cake :) Now let me tell you how I screwed up and held these plants back a bit.

I got one tracked minded since my first plant that the most often mistake was over watering. So I had read this time how I needed these auto's to start in large pots. Now reading this set off another bit of advice that a large pot and small pot was often the cause of over watering.

So I filled my pots after mixing the soil with extra pearlite. I added a couple ounces of water to the center and in the tiny seedlings went. The next 3 weeks I never added enough water to allow the roots to spread out and pretty much made it the same as if I would have stuck them in a small cup. The soil outside of this small circle I hadn't watered.
Not once had I watered to run off. (Somehow I must of watered the ugly one at least double one night but only in the center of the pot.) 8 ounces is the most I had given per pot all the way up until last night. I checked and decided they needed water and realized the plants were bigger and could handle more water. I ph'ed 2 gallon of water and started very slowly adding 16 ounces to each pot spread across the entire pot. Then after waiting 15 minutes I started over at the beginning and they all took another 16 +/-oz before I got a little run off.
They all looked better today. I did not water little ugly as she is still trying to dry out somehow.

So no one should worry about me killing my plants following their advice as I can screw up even with the best advice. I won't blame anyone but me if they die for some reason.

Thank you all for stopping in and offering your help.

@jipp Where are you bud?

Its all trial and error bro.. Just takes time and money....

incogneato · Jan 5, 2018

EventHorizan said:
Its all trial and error bro.. Just takes time and money....

Lots of both lol.

Broken said:
Thanks bro. My room without a heater on and lights off for 4 hours would probably drop into the low 50's. I have the lights at 15 inches right now with canopy under 80 easily. The room its self is maybe 70 and lights will go out at 1:00 by 1:30 temps will be down to 60's without the heater so I try to adjust to keep everything between 70-80. I moved years ago to escape these temps but didn't go far enough it seems.

I value all of you guy's opinions even when they are not the same or I would not tag you when asking a question. I also appreciate the fact that even with descriptions no one can give truly specific info about a room they are not in.

I am watching these things like a fat kid on cake well like me on cake :) Now let me tell you how I screwed up and held these plants back a bit.

I got one tracked minded since my first plant that the most often mistake was over watering. So I had read this time how I needed these auto's to start in large pots. Now reading this set off another bit of advice that a large pot and small pot was often the cause of over watering.

So I filled my pots after mixing the soil with extra pearlite. I added a couple ounces of water to the center and in the tiny seedlings went. The next 3 weeks I never added enough water to allow the roots to spread out and pretty much made it the same as if I would have stuck them in a small cup. The soil outside of this small circle I hadn't watered.
Not once had I watered to run off. (Somehow I must of watered the ugly one at least double one night but only in the center of the pot.) 8 ounces is the most I had given per pot all the way up until last night. I checked and decided they needed water and realized the plants were bigger and could handle more water. I ph'ed 2 gallon of water and started very slowly adding 16 ounces to each pot spread across the entire pot. Then after waiting 15 minutes I started over at the beginning and they all took another 16 +/-oz before I got a little run off.
They all looked better today. I did not water little ugly as she is still trying to dry out somehow.

So no one should worry about me killing my plants following their advice as I can screw up even with the best advice. I won't blame anyone but me if they die for some reason.

Thank you all for stopping in and offering your help.

@jipp Where are you bud?

I think you're doing good bro. You have good instincts. I know i would struggle watering small plants in big pots, in soil. Very few grows go off without a few mistakes. Once these get a little bigger it will be smooth sailing. It wouldn't hurt to consider a weekly tea. You mentioned having ewc and also some form of bottled microbes right? A little molasses, a handful of ewc, some bennies and bubble 24-36h once weekly to boost microbial life. Mine always perc up when i hit em with it.

Broken · Jan 5, 2018

incogneato said:
Lots of both lol.

I think you're doing good bro. You have good instincts. I know i would struggle watering small plants in big pots, in soil. Very few grows go off without a few mistakes. Once these get a little bigger it will be smooth sailing. It wouldn't hurt to consider a weekly tea. You mentioned having ewc and also some form of bottled microbes right? A little molasses, a handful of ewc, some bennies and bubble 24-36h once weekly to boost microbial life. Mine always perc up when i hit em with it.

Tonight I will get new pics. They have gotten bigger.

Yes I have EWC and Microbe Brew® contains concentrated amounts of fungi and bacteria spores that will encourage large populations to colonize at a rapid pace. Microbe Brew® includes organic micronutrients that will feed your plant and microorganisms as well. I wonder how long this stuff is good before things die off.
When you say bennies is the micro brew what you would consider bennies? I will pick up some molasses today while I am out and I have the bubbler set up.

What about the Kangaroots (a root stimulant?) I have this as well Boomerang

Apreciate your time brother if you find yourself doing nothing see what you think of this stuff. I only have it because it came with the rest.

Have a great day

jipp · Jan 5, 2018

Broken said:
@jipp Where are you bud?

im here just getting ready to take a dab. knee cap is all fucked up.

jamming to some reggae.

the white widow auto is doing well, as is the aphrodite fem.
need to go rotate my plants in a bit, and mist the bags with water.. such low humid.. one thing about my plants they are deaf not inside jobs. hah

inside job is a reference i made to gravekat when i let the pfx seedling, and the critical kush go the limits with out the first cup of water. laughs, i was pretty sick.. so my logic was well the kush is a outside plant the pfx was a inside plant because the kush went 3 days longer before i felt bad and had to give it some juice. hha.

i plan on up potting them like i normaly would but ill put the auto into a cloth 3g bag where it will stay.
ill treat the fem like a photo.

ok i need my meds now..

Broken · Jan 5, 2018

@jipp I hope that little dab will do you. (Brylcreem) knowing what that is from actually seeing it will date you lol)

Sucks about the knee but I would prescribe a dab a wheel chair and a Hot nurse.

Stress testing the kush and PFX lol

Mine are looking better even "little ugly" lol

jipp · Jan 6, 2018

my seedlings are finally at that age they will grow now. laughs so slow until they get a few leafs. but they ready to take off i think in a week or so ill up pot them.

one of the pineapple fems has a 1/4" tail.

yeah lets get medicated.. my knees are so fucked up.

jipp · Jan 6, 2018

another blue cookies x 93 pop dirt sometimes between last night and now and its healthy, thick shoot no purple from over water or cold. so i have 5 blue cookies, 1 aphrodite fem, 1 white widow auto.. hand full of dead solos i think but ill l et them rot until i need the dirt or the cups i guess.

i need about 10 more beans to pop. i think ill use the cup method to pop beans unless they are fresh beans i made.. them to the dirt. cause you can get away with that.

time to get medicated.. just got done feeding the kids. half strength baby food :D

Broken · Jan 6, 2018

jipp said:
another blue cookies x 93 pop dirt sometimes between last night and now and its healthy, thick shoot no purple from over water or cold. so i have 5 blue cookies, 1 aphrodite fem, 1 white widow auto.. hand full of dead solos i think but ill l et them rot until i need the dirt or the cups i guess.

i need about 10 more beans to pop. i think ill use the cup method to pop beans unless they are fresh beans i made.. them to the dirt. cause you can get away with that.

time to get medicated.. just got done feeding the kids. half strength baby food :D

How many girls you hoping to have going? I hate it when a seed doesn't pop as it scares me to order them. Just one more chance to get exposed even though I never hear of anyone getting in trouble having them shipped. Thats why I started germinating in a paper towel first, there is a higher success rate. Now had I made a bunch of seeds I might do it different.

I just made up a new tea bubble jug and am about to add some shit and pray it works out.

I am hoping what I got planted live that would make a total of 8. I am fighting trying to keep the room temp stable and not doing very well. 18° swing last night . I checked 30 minutes after lights out and it had went from 75 to 66 I turned on the heater and went back to bed but by the time the heater starting doing anything it was down to 64 according to gauge. Lights came back on at 4am and by the time I got my lazy ass out of bed and down there it hit 82. So I opened the door for a moment and turned the heater down.

I will be oh so happy when this artic shit moves out of here and gives us decent temps again. I will not grow again until fall or winter. I waited this year later than I should have. I was busy putting meat in the freezer.

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