Boomer's Ocean Grown 5k watt ScrOG Lab w/ c02

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Sounds like a plan. My theory oh the RH drop is that the heavy wind actually forces the plants to over perspire and stunts growth and all the other stuff listed above. If you are unsure of it, Just try it out on one table and observe. It wasnt an exaggeration that you should see a noticable difference in just a couple of days. The first time I did it I saw a difference in the small 12 hr lights out period. This adjusted my RH to perfection. With the fans on like crazy my rh ran slightly high, from 55%-65%. With the fan change it hovers right at 45%-50%. And if you think about it, your branches should have pleanty of support from the scrog, and we are always tring to mimic mother nature at its best, where is there a strong, constant, 24hr breeze outside?

true true. the concept of wind is breakin interior tissue and grows bak stronger and thicker. same concept of suprecropping i guess. but makes sense. i went and checked the room. temps were 81* lights on and 53% RH so i lowered all my fans and lowered the AC to get the room down to 79*

we will def see wat happens. ill get bak to u with results. ure rite about the scrog support i just do it to make sure i dont get humidity build up and rot. funny that lowering the fans will make a diff. maybe by doing timers like u mentioned itll allow downtime for the leafs to produce more trichs...
 
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I concur about genetics being extremely important as well as Vapor Pressure Deficit or VPD... I've posted a few links about it in my journals and coined the term Local Vapor Pressure Deficit or L-VPD to describe the effects of the strong wind over the leaves nearest the oscillating fans. :thinking Here's a quick quote for you Boomer:
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very very interesting shit shady. never heard this concept anywhere. im glad im gettin this discussion goin man im gettin a lot of new good info i never considered.
as mentioned above i lowered my fans to low and the room temp so hopefully that helps. i guess we will see the results then adjust it again if sumone else has a rec?
 
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Yeah... I like 50 to 60% RH and a gentle wind tunnel. Keep in mind, there's a fine line between optimum VPD, and the risks of PM... Some leaves are just gonna get whipped around so that the rest of the girls are safe. :cool
 
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Just as a safethy precaution, once the buds densen up, you might want to slightly increase air flow to insure no bud mold if you have a very dense growing strian. I dont know if it was a fluke or what but on one nug from my harvest there was a very small piece that had bud mold(only part in the whole crop) that might have been prevented with more air flow, but it wasnt a big deal and there were other factors at play. As I stated in my thread, these were the most dense rock hard buds I had ever grown. So that makes it easier to support the bud mold aready. On top of that I did my breeding experiment this run which ment 2 seperate 24hr periods with literally no air flow, all fans turned off. This I think was might have done it but the last factor is Im sure what caused it if the above didnt, and that was my RH gets up to 75% at lights out because I was trying to save power by not running the a/c/dehumidifier. But this is actually pretty typical of my lights out rh. So considering all of that, I only had about 1g of moldy bud, and believe me, I went through every bud on a hunt for it. None on any but the first bud that I happened to grab. I dont see it being a problem for you, but wanted to give the heads up anyway.
 
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Just as a safethy precaution, once the buds densen up, you might want to slightly increase air flow to insure no bud mold if you have a very dense growing strian. I dont know if it was a fluke or what but on one nug from my harvest there was a very small piece that had bud mold(only part in the whole crop) that might have been prevented with more air flow, but it wasnt a big deal and there were other factors at play. As I stated in my thread, these were the most dense rock hard buds I had ever grown. So that makes it easier to support the bud mold aready. On top of that I did my breeding experiment this run which ment 2 seperate 24hr periods with literally no air flow, all fans turned off. This I think was might have done it but the last factor is Im sure what caused it if the above didnt, and that was my RH gets up to 75% at lights out because I was trying to save power by not running the a/c/dehumidifier. But this is actually pretty typical of my lights out rh. So considering all of that, I only had about 1g of moldy bud, and believe me, I went through every bud on a hunt for it. None on any but the first bud that I happened to grab. I dont see it being a problem for you, but wanted to give the heads up anyway.

i do apprecoate the heads up and im more then sure theres lurkers that will need that info. u know me; all about right temps and total control. not to say i have it done right yet but i have my room set to control every stting. i exhaust my room during night hours so it brings in fresh air (filtered) and exhaust that RH. keeps it at 50-58% usually no prob.

my flavor is og bubba this round and i know bubba is known for rockhard nugs. so im hopin to get those results but def will monitor RH and mold issues.
 
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Cool, didnt want to scare you off of the idea, but wanted to make sure you were keeping an extra eye out. But with your night humidities that low and no breeding experiments, Im sure you will be more than fine. I feel like its been a little while since I seen pics, whens the next update?
 
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Cool, didnt want to scare you off of the idea, but wanted to make sure you were keeping an extra eye out. But with your night humidities that low and no breeding experiments, Im sure you will be more than fine. I feel like its been a little while since I seen pics, whens the next update?

i didnt even know u were workin on a breeding project. funny i just started readin the breeders bible. its my true goal and got a long ways to go but good to know whos experimenting with their own breeding. gonna have to hit u up once i finished the book. ill update pix when i get bak to the grow.
 
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i didnt even know u were workin on a breeding project. funny i just started readin the breeders bible. its my true goal and got a long ways to go but good to know whos experimenting with their own breeding. gonna have to hit u up once i finished the book. ill update pix when i get bak to the grow.

Ill have to check the breeders bible out, would have probly made my run a lot easier. But I did get a lot of help from community members(THanks Jaws and Chitown). I breed my Blue Kush with Sannie's Kolossus. Hope it turns out weel and I get a new plant that inherited the traits I was hoping for. What are your breeding plans?
 
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honestly i dont have any breeding plans cuz what i think i know (F1s etc) is not nearly as much info as i need before i can start choosin flavors to breed out. its gonna be a while and more of a personal thing but im headin that direction and its my ultimate goal.
 
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Flower Update (week 6 & 4)

checkin back in to get things caught up.

Table 1 (week6)
PH @ 5.7
PPM @ 1250
Rez Temp @ 78*
Room Temp @ 79* 58% RH
C02 PPM @ 1500

Table 2 (week4)
PH @ 5.8
PPM @ 1100
Rez temp @ 78*
Room Temp @ 79* 58% RH
C02 PPM @ 1500


Im running table 2 a little more aggressive then i did with table1. Table 1 was not under control from the flip so im making due with it right now.
I also want to point out im doing sumwat a controlled experiment;

Table 1= Sensi Bloom A & B
Table 2= Connessour A&B

i had both macro nutes bought in bulk and figured id use the rest up and compare the two side to side. So it will be interesting to see if theres much diff.

Im meeting with the owner of Field 16 agriculture tomorrow to pick up a few gallon samples of their newly nationwide distributed nute lineup. I plan to run their lineup with the UC setup.

I still see fungus gnats around on table 2 but theyre almost all day but occassionally i see one or two flying around... i dont see any issues with the plants and i threw in lady bugs and gognats to kill em off.



Enough talk for now. heres the update;


Table 1

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Table 2

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lookin great as ususal boom, Gnats take forever to leave, i've been dealing with them for a couple weeks now. Cant wait to see that UC setup, I know your style of doing things 110%, And throw a UC setup into that mix.... Shits gana get poppin! lol anyway, How many more home grows you gana do? Or are you gana still fuck around at home just not as productive as the warehouse, like some elite strians and shit. Good luck to ya man, keep that green thumb of yours growin
 
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Looks like they are really starting to take off. Table 2 is looking real sweet. What's the new nutrient lineup? It will be interesting to see if they do any better with the conasseuar. Keep up the good work Boomer.
 
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lookin great as ususal boom, Gnats take forever to leave, i've been dealing with them for a couple weeks now. Cant wait to see that UC setup, I know your style of doing things 110%, And throw a UC setup into that mix.... Shits gana get poppin! lol anyway, How many more home grows you gana do? Or are you gana still fuck around at home just not as productive as the warehouse, like some elite strians and shit. Good luck to ya man, keep that green thumb of yours growin

thanks bro glad to see u over here. i think i saw u at the new forum canna? i got my journal over there too.

talked to my buddy at greencoast and he said the gnats usually never compeltely leave or its hard to get rid of. im planning to transfer everything to the shop after this round anyways so i can start fresh there. gnna switch to mainly hydroton for medium as well. RW for clones and veg only. got the 1 HP chiller gotta install asap.
might do a fun little stealth grow at my pad in the near future but my hands are full as is.
 
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Looks like they are really starting to take off. Table 2 is looking real sweet. What's the new nutrient lineup? It will be interesting to see if they do any better with the conasseuar. Keep up the good work Boomer.

ya im not expecting too much out of table1 really but it should still produce.

table 2 is the same as table 1 except i swapped out the macro nutes;

Table 1= Sensi Bloom A&B
Table2= Connessiour A&B


both tables get

cannazym, magical, root excel, great white, big bud, overdrive, sweet raw.
 
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New gear

Went down to LA with my partner and grabbed sum glassware for cost.

He actually has a glass etch machine that were thinkin of doin our own designs on etc.

Anyways i was stoked over this piece (since the lady broke the last one...)
So i got to upgrade for even cheaper then our Venice hookup.


Go ahead, take a hit... :party0044::animbong:


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I dont think ive been over at the canna fourm yet, but that bong is Beautiful! i've fallen in love with the tree arm percs, they just hit so well. Ive got an oil globe that i mainly use for hash, and hash through those percs makes your day lol. heres a video if youve never seen one, in that case go have someone make you one they're really basic.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYyGiaf_gxc[/YOUTUBE]
not me but the bong and globe is similar to what i have. Anyway enjoy the new piece man!
 
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Hey Boomer,
I dont know, I like the height you got on Table 1 maybe more buds in the end.
Bad ass bong dude. I went and bought one. Never thought of making one. Pretty cool.
 
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Things are looking good man. Word to the wise.....be CAREFUL with the Connie! I wound up scorching my plants a little and I never brought PPM's over 1300. I am actually switching over to Sensi Bloom for a while. I used to live with a "lampworker" he would make some killer pipes. That was my first experience with vaporizing things as well. Just take a nug and drop it into a steamroller that was heated up with propane/oxygen and bam.....never been so baked in my life.:winking0067:
 
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