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OPP is referring to what WE do now seeing how there is basically no such thing as IBLs anymoreIBL and open pollination do not mix in my definition.
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there is basically no such thing as IBLs anymore
So those are open pollinated now, right?Landrace Archives - Kwik Seeds - The Real Seed Company Strains
Landrace strain Cannabis seeds sourced directly from Afghanistan, the Hindu Kush, the Himalaya, India, Thailand, Laos and beyond by The Real Seed Companykwikseeds.com
As far as I'm concerned, Angus from kwikseeds is pretty much the guy to go to as far as landraces.
In their selections like Manipur, they mention the farmers selectively breeding. But it's still open pollenation, since they'll just chop the weakest males and let the stronger ones do the pollinating. Landraces include everything from totally wild plants to selectively pollinated plants. IBL's start from one mother and then are selectively bred within the line to bring out desired qualities. Heirlooms are like C99 and Deep Chunk- classic IBL's.
Anything on that page that says outbreeding is not an inbred line which means it's not a land raceIBL and open pollination do not mix in my definition.
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Because I think we realise a lot of breeders are just chucking pollen and selling the F1 or maybe F3 or whatever if we're lucky.Why not?
So those are open pollinated now, right?
Because I think we realise a lot of breeders are just chucking pollen and selling the F1 or maybe F3 or whatever if we're lucky.
With a million strains a year coming out how many years could they have been worked on?
Which is exactly why I started the thread here to work on a real IBL too. I want that real shit lolWell I've got at least one of my own, I'm continuing 4-5 of other peoples', and have plans for more. And I know of at least a few more humans that are similarly minded. IBL's exist, that's just not what you're getting from most major breeders.
Which is exactly why I started the thread here to work on a real IBL too. I want that real shit lol❤ ❤
I found the one for males. Number 545. Listening again tonight....notes incoming.....
Does sound like he legit stresses the crap out of his plants to try to breed away a tendency to reveal intersex traits. Going to 18-6 for half of week three and then 24-0 at week five....i mean for light stress alone, that is intense.
I got a little hung up on this.People don't just walk up into the mountains and find weed from "pure nature". Maybe thousands of years ago but ever since then it's pretty much been farmed by people for a market.
Never would be a seller though..very anti big money corporate cannabis dude here. I'm the freeware guy who loves to share. For the love of the plant and the joy and healing it brings. ❤Theres a huge hole in the market for high quality heirloom seeds. People are getting sick of the latest Devils Purple Squishy Piss Cherries.
Unfortunately what we are going to get instead is patented genetic markers and a lot of corporate bullshit which we need to start fighting against now as it rears its ugly head.I got a little hung up on this.
While I'm sure most of the shit "breeders" are bringing out are probably heirloom or by-definiton landrace (or total bullshit), I'm also sure that there's nothing stopping people from going out into the wilds and plucking a vibrant feather... so to speak. (I took a lot of mushrooms last night, so I might be flowery today.)
Now... what I do wonder about is the impact of human on nature here. I can't see it terribly possible that plants untouched by intentional human cultivation or selection have managed to eke out unaltered. I can only assume some of that selected and manipulated pollen has made its way to most corners of nature and inadvertently shaped it.
Hooowwever... I also would think nature would do what nature do and give preferential treatment to certain traits based on their environment, etc.
In essence, creating a yet uniquely nature-crafted variety. But possibly somewhat boosted by that human selection intervention or not - but nature would select those 'or nots' out.
I mean. It's not common to breed wolves into modern dogs. But that doesn't stop people from doing it and doing it successfully. And also very unsuccessfully.
We need an AKC for cannabis varieties...
Yeah... I certainly don't doubt that.Never would be a seller though..very anti big money corporate cannabis dude here. I'm the freeware guy who loves to share. For the love of the plant and the joy and healing it brings. ❤❤
Unfortunately what we are going to get instead is patented genetic markers and a lot of corporate bullshit which we need to start fighting against now as it rears its ugly head.
Yeah... I certainly don't doubt that.
But... fuck if I'm not sick of seeing Dachslabracorgidoodletzu apso's...
Edit: that go for $1000...
That's kinda where I bring in the AKC again... gives a standardizing organization so that ordinary people who have good practices can be legitimized.I get the anti big corporate money thing. Man I wish I could stand up and throw some Amazon co UK research data down that we did on cannabis seeds they are selling. It's the little guys making the money for once. They own the sales volume. We can beat corp USA in the seeds game here in the US because we have far superior hands on experience and we dont have their overhead. All we need is a traditional farmer's co-op structure. Compensation = Contribution + Sale - Marketing Overhead. There would be zero costs associated with employees (dont need any), offices/physical infrastructure, or golf outings. We'll kick their asses if we can actually organize.
This is where Phylos had it right before they turned around and stabbed all the breeders in the back. 🗡That's kinda where I bring in the AKC again... gives a standardizing organization so that ordinary people who have good practices can be legitimized.
That's kinda where I bring in the AKC again... gives a standardizing organization so that ordinary people who have good practices can be legitimized.
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