Commercialization of Cannabis

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baba G

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low geade wint b profitable unless u can compete...less competition in high grade for many of the reasons which have been talked abiut n this thread.
getting heated or bent out of shape ovr peopkes future predictions is a waste tho! hone ut skills!!
 
GR33NL3AF

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low geade wint b profitable unless u can compete...less competition in high grade for many of the reasons which have been talked abiut n this thread.
getting heated or bent out of shape ovr peopkes future predictions is a waste tho! hone ut skills!!
We need to get your auto correct.....corrected. lol
 
SpiderK

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u pay top for dom perignon and it isnt sold n 24 packs and waaynes herb would b a dom perignon level!

oh ya.... i agree 100%.

if somebody is growing a+ you will grab it over others. but if your trying to make money in the long run that will only get harder as the price drops. because everyone starts dropping prices and if you can get b+ for 1/3rd the price most would grab the cheaper shit. not talking those looking for quality, it more about my buddy or his wife who smoke but would not know this from that.

my entire state has been serviced by cali, colorado ect, . thats changing. i bet local growers only make up 25% of the total consumption. guys moving 50 lb's every 2 weeks near a college, coming in fed ex or ups via cali ......so what will happen as this product is no longer servicing 13 million people. not all are smokers but thats the total so lets say 35% smoke. that a lot of dope dropped back in cali's lap in a couple years as we come online.

so what will that do w/ pricing ?
 
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baba G

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yeet dom perignon stays n biz with way less patrons. money will b made at all levels of quality but low grade will b most competitive due to largest share of marketplace. if ur not in cali, co, wa or oregon u prob cant inagine what is comibg. ..
 
SpiderK

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cater to the top and ull find they dont want liwer pruced...they thrive on paying for what the avg could never afford!

indeed. but how many peeps have this safely in place, people you trust .... ? maybe 3% can service the upper crust of weed snobs.

the guys lining up new customers in the bars ect get drilled ....
 
20kwDreamer

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Good read. Being over in the South East I'm pretty concerned I may not make it as a farmer but an alternate business may be my saving grace.
 
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U crank out a harvest every 55 to 75 days, marijuana is easy as shit to grow. If the genetics are good and the environment is perfect then they can grow a1 weed with minimal cost. After initial payment of equipment and gh it is easy and cheap to maintain a good operation so the bottom line of growing good wee is about the same amount as growing bad weed. I promise you that the process of growing a1 weed is as easy or easier then growing a1 tomatoes. Really think about it what is gonna keep the corps from growing good weed? Why would they wanna grow bad weed? I am a grower so I hope I am wrong about weed becoming federally legal but one thing I do know that if it does become fed legal it's either find a new income or get a job working as a grower or consultant for a corp grow which is highly unlikely for me and most other growers.
 
fishwhistle

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I was with you for the first 2 paragraphs but u Def lost me with the mentality that the corps won't let their weed mature fully. I think there are alot of people on here that are being a lil naive, there will be 100s or 1000s of greenhouses running bomb ass genetics with horticulturists and botanists overseeing each one. They grow tomatoes on crazy advanced growing environments and even regulated and monitor the amount of sugar in the tomato to make it taste it's optimal delicousness. So why u think they won't grow weed with such expertise and care is beyond me. I would also like to think that I grow the best weed but that is ignorance. Do u really believe that they can't hire enough mexicans (no offense) that are overseen by college educated botanists to pump out a grade a product given they have grade a genetics and environment?

I think your 180 degrees off brother,they do not grow tomatoes for high sugar content and optimal deliciousness as they could care less,they monitor the sugar to keep it LOW because high sugar content(which you are correct makes a tomato taste good)makes tomatoes spoil much faster and ripen very quickly which is no good for the bottom line.What incentive do they have to grow fire when people will stand in line for Mids?Its all about the dollar for them and their not concerned with how they get there.Just look at veggie and fruit production,are they trying to grow the best and freshest or are they churning out tasteless no nutritional content GMO's that are stored in refrigerated warehouses for 6-8 months before they are artificially ripened and shipped to market?
 
QLTYlab

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Why would they see my direction? Not many have access to the information I do.

Just using your words dude, do you forget what you say?

"You seem to be the only one arguing here, everyone else see's the direction we're headed and are planning."
 
20kwDreamer

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Why isn't anyone mentioning it being like tobacco? I mean the man isn't really a man, its a network of powerful entities prioritizing their profits or agendas primarily and whatever suits them best second.

Why couldn't a guy like BOG or waayne or any of the other guys busting 40k watt shops become the next Phillip Morris?

I mean I love quality most but I also wish I could grow for a living I've done and failed and paying dues still - so I'm losing if this goes corporate-commercial. Because my easy funtix are going to be zilch.

If it's Friday and I'm heading out with the fam I'm gonna stop and pay 20 bucks got a pack of Hazeboros Full Flavor or the 25.00 pack of Blueberry & Hedges. Remember when Camel would sell those themed flavored tins? I lived for the change of tin's every few weeks because it meant a different smoke. I wouldn't mind the damn things being at 7-11/ I'd still have a 1k or two 600's churning in my spare room though because I love this shit.

Edit: I meant to say 40kw and larger, because we know regular joes have 100+ shops as well.
 
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QLTYlab

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Why isn't anyone mentioning it being like tobacco? I mean the man isn't really a man, its a network of powerful entities prioritizing their profits or agendas primarily and whatever suits them best second.

Why couldn't a guy like BOG or waayne or any of the other guys busting 40k watt shops become the next Phillip Morris?

Great point and I agree, maybe have a little funding help from an investor that doesn't need or want to have any day to day control as long as margins are being maintained.
 
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If you look at how the so called large corps will grow thier weed. Yes they will have consultants and plant specialists, but who is tending to these plants. is it going to be 1 person with masters degree and 10 people making 10$ an hour and grinding out 40 hours a week. I would bet the farm its not going to be green houses, rather a very controlled environment, Green houses yes may save money off power bill but what about heating and cooling. Where I am at it -20 in winter for 3 months, green house no way would work. The cost to heat would surpass the electric bill of indoors. Not every grow is in California remember that its damn cold in alot of the U.s. The transportation costs are going to force the weed to be grown close by. My hunch is get outside of the big citys that the ops would be outside of city limits, and proboly in a very, secure area, armed guards, high fences ect.

The reason I said they cannot grow to peak is truely how you prefer your weed. I grow 60% amber every strain, every run. If things are running smooth they may let it go to peak thc. Thing is though have you had to depend on crops to pay your bills? Look what happened in Colorado when it went rec. They ran out of weed. If you had a dispense in your name as your bread and butter and knew that it is 2 choices as the shelves are running out, A. Let the shelves go bare and wait for the harvest to mature loose customers. B Chop that shit down and get in on the shelves. It is a differant ball game when its your sole income, you will do things at times you dont want to do, but you have to do. What hapens if a pest or a fungus issue over takes a 20K watt room, what do you do let the shelves go bare or do you chop another room early?

Its a entirely differant thing when growing for profit, notice I said profit. It matters not illegal or legal when you grow as your sole income you will do what you need to do to keep money flow going.

It is control plain and simple. Is it the guy that has the brains to grow in total control, or is it the General manager that knows nothing but is told can save 2K a crop by going to a differant grow cycle because of a bean counter? The General manager is not going to care what the grower says until its harvested and then finds out that it shit the bed. Guess who will answer to that. Will it be the general manager, the bean counter or the grower? It will be the grower every time and twice on sunday. The bean counters are the ones with control, it matter not who they work for.

What I am seeing more of is contract growing. People for what ever reason bring thier seeds to a grower and pay part upfront, then when harvest is done they settle out. The reason for the contract is they know how its going to be grown, what is used to grow it, how it is cured, how the grow is taken care of. The person has no risk to growing what so ever, and they do not have to be seen going in or out of a hydro shop, or a dispense. There are alot of people for example that are scout masters, lawyers, doctors, preachers, ect that will not at all want to be seen in a hydro shop, or a dispense.

I think this is going to be more and more common that contract growing will happen.. Yes most people dont give a flying ____ how its grown, they know they can pay 10$ a gram or 25$ a gram. How many people know about trichomes? How many people care about trichomes? Those that do not care are going to be the ones that just go cheap because its cheap. They do not care about indaca,sativia,hybrid%, how its grown, why its done certian ways, they just want to get stoned and want it cheap, even if a bowl last 30 minutes its cheap.
 
GR33NL3AF

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Just using your words dude, do you forget what you say?

"You seem to be the only one arguing here, everyone else see's the direction we're headed and are planning."
I'm trying to say that whether you agree with me or not, I see and hear things you and most other farmers here, don't.
 
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redlife215

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Making new special crosses and clones is the only thing I think we would be able to make money at. And even that's a long shot imho
 
cannapits

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well they can test for chems at this point. indeed, your talking a couple hundred thousand just for equipment, lab workers, then it needs calibration ( regulation again ) , the cost for everything is massive.

all your delivery cars tied in gps with state police. different routes taken every time. truck breaks, first call goes to state police .... stainless steel kitchen for extracts, more inspections for quality, electricity, so much shit .... so many workers needed for all of this.
https://conquerscientific.com/lab-equipment/liquid-chromatographs-hplc/
 

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