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From what i understand from reading all the documents and other documents not included by Todd McCormick that nobody had to force information from cogo and that it was freely given as a witness and had nothing to do with ratting or snitching and that nevil shoemakers was already being investigated several years prior to cogo in fact the indictment against Mr shoenmakers was obtained threw a grand jury and that 4 people from high times including the editor of the magazine Steve Hagar was subpoenaed and threw that grand jury a indictment was obtained by the prosecutor.From the 1994 affidavit:
Doesn't sound like the feds had to work very hard to wear him down.
Makes you wonder what he'd do if you gave him a bad Amazon review. (Scammie MacKenzie had that reputation with LED grow-light fixtures.).
?From what i understand from reading all the documents and other documents not included by Todd McCormick that nobody had to force information from cogo and that it was freely given as a witness and had nothing to do with ratting or snitching and that nevil shoemakers was already being investigated several years prior to cogo in fact the indictment against Mr shoenmakers was obtained threw a grand jury and that 4 people from high times including the editor of the magazine Steve Hagar was subpoenaed and threw that grand jury a indictment was obtained by the prosecutor.
So Cogo, you voluntarily snitched on Neville's seed bank, lol, thats even worse.From what i understand from reading all the documents and other documents not included by Todd McCormick that nobody had to force information from cogo and that it was freely given as a witness and had nothing to do with ratting or snitching and that nevil shoemakers was already being investigated several years prior to cogo in fact the indictment against Mr shoenmakers was obtained threw a grand jury and that 4 people from high times including the editor of the magazine Steve Hagar was subpoenaed and threw that grand jury a indictment was obtained by the prosecutor.
From what i understand from reading all the documents and other documents not included by Todd McCormick that nobody had to force information from cogo and that it was freely given as a witness and had nothing to do with ratting or snitching and that nevil shoemakers was already being investigated several years prior to cogo in fact the indictment against Mr shoenmakers was obtained threw a grand jury and that 4 people from high times including the editor of the magazine Steve Hagar was subpoenaed and threw that grand jury a indictment was obtained by the prosecutor.
It all sounds like an enormous impediment to Cogos' chosen line of work. If it were me, I would have changed my name and pitched male-enhancement supplements on late-night teevee.
thank you for attempting to answer my questions i appreciate your effort however i find that after reading threw all the documents that there is much more than meets the eye and in fact many have over looked many discrepancies and i can only gather from them and what many have said, that they have not read any of the documents and are merely reacting to some people emotionally. I have not only read cogos information but i also have reviewed Nevil shoemakers history and find that there is more to the story than cogo did it. i also find that Mr McCormick has over zealously created a pattern of over zealous remarks including inaccurate assertions and assumptions that do not coincide with the evidence.My jo requires me to read threw transcripts everyday and over many years, and find that people tend to get emotionally involved and end up following the leader. thank you so much for your attempt to answer my question's however i cannot with all due respect be preoccupied with opinions. thank you
It has become apparent to me that this is a emotional issue. Many have already drawn conclusions based on one mans assumptions . As i have pointed out it seems from cogos writing that he is not denying his effort to eliminate Nevil. What he is denieing is the construction of the story line being presented, and in the way the facts are used to construe and aid said authors presumptions used to malign cogo. no one knows the story of what happened but cogo . It seems cogo was intimately involved on many levels with people at the top since the early 1980s.Say what?
You gloss over the fact this is a man that runs a cannabis specific nutrient company and worked with the DEA of his own free will according to him. In that affidavit he states his nutrient formula was stolen so he decided to talk. Also providing customer lists to them from the seed bank, which he kept, for the only reason I could think of was to do exactly this. Did they have them already? maybe but still those are all people who just ordered seeds and had nothing to do with his spat between all of that. That alone right there is a no go. I don't know enough about Nevilles bust or what he was all about. That doesn't matter. We are talking about what he did. Numerous people have asked for him to clear that up but instead of answering the question he just keeps going after todd instead of stating what really happened or his side of the story or saying Neville was a heroin dealer that sold to kids. That's a huge red flag. I'm not giving todd any credit just reading the affidavit from Cogos. It's his choice if he wants to explain it.
If you feel ok about that then go for it. Buy some nutes and ship them to your house. I'm pretty sure most of us don't. Specially if that dude is still in the industry trying to market to cannabis specific crowds when in fact it looks like he didn't give 2 shits about the "community" and threw people under the bus because of personal and business issues between partners. It's funny he brings up how stupid we all are by reading high times or posting on a website like this. There is a lot of truth to that if you don't know what you are doing. Exactly for the reason that people like him are out in this world.
You said to your knowledge the DEA had no idea you worked for him at the time. So business deal goes south and you throw everyone under the bus? I'm fine with what you said about Neville. If that didn't sit right with you that's your choice but FUCKING OWN IT and everything that goes with that. Like being called a rat. That is basically what everyone is saying.
If i am not mistaken what really matters is the truth and the truth usually more complicated and has to do with finding out why. Answering why is more important than a group of like minded people jumping on the band wagon. As i said there are many discrepancies in the documents and the story . Obviously the person telling the story makes alot of presumptions and draws many conclusions and goes out of his way to slander cogo. You are a moderator you should be neutral in the discussion . For instance cannabis is still illegal and so are the seeds yet here you are selling them which is a federal crime and on top of it pretending like it isn't many people could draw the wrong conclusion about you and this web sight couldn't they? again thank you for trying to answer questions i presented. Although no one has.What I really think matters is Cogo admits he assisted authorities by providing insider information in detail on how Nevilles seed bank operated and might have also turned over info on customers that purchased seeds that cogo was distributing for Neville. It dont matter if it was 1 customer or 11,000.
For instance cannabis is still illegal and so are the seeds yet here you are selling them which is a federal crime and on top of it pretending like it isn't many people could draw the wrong conclusion about you and this web sight couldn't they?
Obviously the person telling the story makes alot of presumptions and draws many conclusions and goes out of his way to slander cogo.
People are poisoned by the media, and feel they have license to say whatever they want, the ends justifying any means. Truth reason out the window.From what i understand from reading all the documents and other documents not included by Todd McCormick that nobody had to force information from cogo and that it was freely given as a witness and had nothing to do with ratting or snitching and that nevil shoemakers was already being investigated several years prior to cogo in fact the indictment against Mr Shoenmakers was obtained threw a grand jury and that 4 people from high times including the editor of the magazine Steve Hagar was subpoenaed and threw that grand jury a indictment was obtained by the prosecutor.
from what i understand no one wants to listen to what cogo has to say on top of that from what i gathered he is banned from thc farmerFrom what i understand from reading all the documents and other documents not included by Todd McCormick that nobody had to force information from cogo and that it was freely given as a witness and had nothing to do with ratting or snitching and that nevil shoemakers was already being investigated several years prior to cogo in fact the indictment against Mr shoenmakers was obtained threw a grand jury and that 4 people from high times including the editor of the magazine Steve Hagar was subpoenaed and threw that grand jury a indictment was obtained by the prosecutor.
Thank you sir for your input i have been trying to get to the bottom of it with no luck from anyone on thc farmer i have only received their personal opinions. i would be hoping to discuss this matter i do believe there is a lot more the story than....cogo did it he is a rat and a snitchWell folks, I started this thread, Consider Cogos, to recommend the products. I did this after some terse posts with Mr McCormick on his thread titled Nevil and the start of OGM, where I questioned his interpretations and conclusions from the court records indicting Nevil, including Mr Cogo affidavit. The diatribe has continued here, with both McCormick attacking Cogo and he responding vorciferously. Other posters seem to be either parrots or owls.
Anyone who has followed all the posts may fairly question the integrity and motives of both, depending on your point of view.
But I still endorse the products which have never been in retail shops.
Whatever happened was 30 years ago.
Both contestants have interesting personal histories. No angels, none perfect or above criticism.
I wish I could stop the thread here and now. Enough has been said from both sides.
My selection of goods is based on their quality, not on the reputation of the people who brought them to market.
Thank you for understanding.
Both contestants have interesting personal histories.
from what i have gathered is that Nevil was already working with authority's over seas and cogo was involved and dealing with what i posted belowThank you sir for your input i have been trying to get to the bottom of it with no luck from anyone on thc farmer i have only received their personal opinions. i would be hoping to discuss this matter i do believe there is a lot more the story than....cogo did it he is a rat and a snitch
Ad hominem attacks are unnecessary, instead of sticking to the subject.
After doing a little online research it seems that many are over looking the big pictureTo follow up, since I can't stop the thread, just to say I'm disappointed in the lack of moderation by thcfarmer and note some staff posts anti Cogo. Instead of warning posters, or taking down inappropriate content, things turn into a shit show.
Ad hominem attacks are unnecessary, instead of sticking to the subject.
Cogo admitted being a rat and even made an excuse why it was ok right in this thread.
I never researched this but there is no need after reading any of his posts.
He said he is guilty.
And without any knowledge of this just by the way he posted i would never do any business with the jerk. What kind of seller insults strangers on the internet?
One you cant trust in my opinion.
Also the nutes are simple chemical salt formulations. Nothing special about them at all. They are just watered down fertilizer with tomato ratios from europe like most weed “specific” nutes.
Is he banned already?
I came to thc farmer to discuss the history of how and who started the cannabis industry . Obviously you don't mind saying whats on your mind no matter how inaccurate and opinionated it may be perhaps its attributed to your age or ignorance or both. In other words people usually think before they speak obviously you have no experience in doing either no matter who you insult or how much of a simpleton you may project yourself to be. Cannabis is federally illegal yet many come here to buy seeds at thc farmer. i find it highly suspicious and recklessCogo admitted being a rat and even made an excuse why it was ok right in this thread.
I never researched this but there is no need after reading any of his posts.
He said he is guilty.
And without any knowledge of this just by the way he posted i would never do any business with the jerk. What kind of seller insults strangers on the internet?
One you cant trust in my opinion.
Also the nutes are simple chemical salt formulations. Nothing special about them at all. They are just watered down fertilizer with tomato ratios from europe like most weed “specific” nutes.
Is he banned already?
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