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Coco perlite mix with very simple amendments of microbes/ beneficial fungal and we salt feed. Organic salts but nevertheless salts but being it’s almost like coco, we don’t need to flush, 2week before harvest we just go into water every only system . Great end products. Top shelf shit that gets a premium and cost wise cheaper then full on organic soil we started out with, super soils costs $300-400k a cycle at our capacity, this coco-perlite setup with nutes , $80-120k per 220k plant harvests . Water in both setups about same but in coco we are pure RO so we need to add cal mag in organic we were straight well water no cal mag needed. So each has its values based on end useAnd of course I was paraphrasing my answer. There’s volumes of information scattered all over regarding this topic. So I’m well aware that finer points were missed in my response. I just highlighted some of the more obvious and important factors.
Actually jack og is a great resource for this topic. I noticed his greenhouses use soil so I can only assume they have found a good way to scale up while keeping costs down. Especially in the west coast commercial sector. Any thoughts on this subject bro?
Coco perlite mix with very simple amendments of microbes/ beneficial fungal and we salt feed. Organic salts but nevertheless salts but being it’s almost like coco, we don’t need to flush, 2week before harvest we just go into water every only system . Great end products. Top shelf shit that gets a premium and cost wise cheaper then full on organic soil we started out with, super soils costs $300-400k a cycle at our capacity, this coco-perlite setup with nutes , $80-120k per 220k plant harvests . Water in both setups about same but in coco we are pure RO so we need to add cal mag in organic we were straight well water no cal mag needed. So each has its values based on end use
Yes and no about a 60% reuse and rest is composted to soil for mothers, we change our mother soils every 6-8 months and resue post amendmentsOh cool. Yeah on that scale costs are a very big concern. Very nice setup. That would probably be the way I’d go also if I was to ramp up a commercial farm to get the yield needed per sqft while maintaining quality and sustainability. Do you guys wash and reuse the coco coir? Just curious is all.
On the organics vs hydro taste question. I have been growing hydro since the late 70's. I recall selling some product to a young man, knowledgeable smoker, who went on and on about the 'chemical taste' of hydro weed, not being to stand up to 'this', my pot that he was smoking, which he was loving and paying $2400 a lb. for, in 1980 dollars. Unflushed, hydro weed. I just smiled and folded the money.
Literally no-one has ever singled out my hydro weed as being different tasting from any other weed. In 40 years. There is plenty of hydro weed in the legal stores here now. No-one can distinguish the taste. There is no discount for being hydro. No labeling. Because there is no need.
I have scientific reasons for believing there is no taste difference. I have consumer evidence. I have market evidence. I have my personal experience. And I have my opinion. ;-)
To the OP's question, cure hydro weed exactly as you would soil grown weed, because its exactly the same stuff. Slow and cool is what you want. I hang for a week until the stems get a bit crispy, trim into paper shopping bags, and store there until dry, stirring every other day. Usually three weeks total. You can jar from there, but I find that to be a waste of time, and too laborious for my needs. I just put it in ziplocs. YMMV
On the organics vs hydro taste question. I have been growing hydro since the late 70's.
Yes there's a major difference. In Kevin Jodreys words "chemical pot breaks down radically different than organic". If you dont know the difference, sorry. Synthetic bacteria poop cannot produce a natural product the way real bacteria poop can.
How to cure synthetically grown pot: use lots of silica so it doesn't turn to dust, flush with citric acid, use brovida, and sell it to casual smokers within 2 months for 100/oz.
How to cure biologically grown pot: grow in healthy soil, let the high Brix, high lipid high overall metabolite pot basically cure itself without thought or effort, watch bud get better and more valuable every day for 5 months straight, 70 an 8th to the right people.
Unless you count tast, smell and chemical composition, but if your stoned and just wanting to answer the first thing that comes into your head then OK I guess that will have to do...there is no difference between an organic and “chemical” bud. Lol.
True but this is kind of obvious but after growing for 20 years on and off, I barely want to smoke any flower that was given more than a dash of chemical salts in flower, even grown myself amending heavy with smoothieponics, where as organics just trashes everyones weed in the state as far as smell, flavor and bag appeal but your right not all organics. There is more to growing than "organic materials get broken down into salts" OK maybe if you dont consider the hundreds of other compounds present in most organics amendments. Fruit for example not only do you get NPK but you get all those fancy aminos, enzymes and what not that the nutrient companies are trying to charge you $200 for 100 mls of, that are inferior products to their natural counterparts, but a good thing to sell noobs.I can only say that there was a study showing cannabis plant grown with chemical fertilizers had 27% more flavonoids than a plant grown organically. So this statement that organically grown weed tastes better is not true in all cases.
Unless you count tast, smell and chemical composition, but if your stoned and just wanting to answer the first thing that comes into your head then OK I guess that will have to do...
I guarantee your weed is like all this 100/oz dispensary stuff that looks good and tastes good but is salty AF and is a bummer to smoke. Some people like growing Sweet weed, others prefer SALTYLol. Please post any actual evidence of your claim. No one has ever said anything like that about my flowers regardless of medium or fertilizer type. Sure have been a lot of outdoor organic growers that have tried them.
I guarantee your weed is like all this 100/oz dispensary stuff that looks good and tastes good but is salty AF and is a bummer to smoke. Some people like growing Sweet weed, others prefer SALTYMaybe one day someone will share some actually good tasting flower with you, but IDK...
I call this impossible.So if you have bad flavor inside the buds from some kind of non flushable organic compound your best bet would be to harvest your branches and let them sit in a nice flower vase filled with R/O to help purge out some of the excess compounds which happens to very fairly effective
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