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So, human grew weeds for thousand years and we have to keep it the same way? Humans evolve, gather new information, new techniques. Why invent LED, we should keep that good old filament bulb... Forget those tractors, use the horses! Stop looking in the past, people were dying from cold before... They still do but well, you understand what I mean. People are trying techniques that comes from different species because that's how human work, he reproduces...
I did the comparison, defoil half of my plants, same grow, same lights, same rdwc, different spot to create an even comparison and 10-15% more yield on the defoil, I didn't go nut on defoil but it worked. Test it out for yourself, and not only 4 plants each side of the lamp, you have to mix things up to get a more scientific approach.
Funny how this debate will never end, worst part is, a lot of people are not even testing it, they just repeat what they believe... As you explicitly wrote...
Im not saying dont do it if you like it... Im just pointing out that defoliating is the flat earth of pot growing lol
Which horticulture industry uses defoliation to increase yields??
So you dont care so you just come in and drop "you're not worth it" and now you're out. Very adult of you. What are you 15 years old now?
Pruning and defoliation are NOT the same thing. The OP was talking taking ALL the fan leaves off to increase yields. You should actually READ the thread before you drop in and put your foot in your mouth ffs.
Which horticulture industry uses defoliation to increase yields??
So you dont care so you just come in and drop "you're not worth it" and now you're out. Very adult of you. What are you 15 years old now?
Pruning and defoliation are NOT the same thing. The OP was talking taking ALL the fan leaves off to increase yields. You should actually READ the thread before you drop in and put your foot in your mouth ffs.
Here's a pic of my current flowers. No defoil but I do trim out lower LAF at flip thats it. This is organic grown weed, nothing but WATER that's it the whole grow start to finish.
I get consistently 1.3ish gm/watt every grow. The length of flower is 40-50 days with the exception of the big landrace sativa in the right corner but her yields will be significantly larger than 1.3 gm/watt but over much longer time than 40-50 days the hybrids flower for.
All you guys keep banging on me, I'll be doing something other than fucking with my plants. Actually went on vacation for 9 days and left them all on their own. OMG I didn't pull off not even 1 fan leaf and they are fine.
You people that like to fiddle with your plants, defoil is just your excuse to want to futz around in the flower room and its not necessary. Yeah plants been growing for 10s of thousands of years without chemical fertilizers and cal-mag and all that non-sense. Have at it. There are easier ways to grow, a lot easier ways.
Eventually you won't be able to compete due to your high costs and muddling about with the flowers.
My cost for this grow is about $200 dollars for electricity and water. Turn over 8 plants every 40-60 days @ 1.3 gm/watt. Do the math.
Just my opinion worth price paid.
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Lol again it's the opinion thing. You are right for your setup. You are just as wrong as everyone you are calling wrong. At the same time you are just as right as everyone saying the opposite.
Lol I'm hanging with my buddy again tomorrow, I'll have to ask if they've done any R&D on defoliation. I know for a fact they currently prune pretty much exactly how you and I do, but I'm curious to see if they've invested much research into it.
It would be cool to see what he says. I have a feeling I already know the answer.
It would be cool to see what he says. I have a feeling I already know the answer.
The answer has always been “if its needed”.
All you can get other than that is growers own confirmation bias.
You're wrong. Start over.
Okay. Started over. When should I start defoliating?
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I dont want those upper leaves blocking any light.
You could start now really, I think it's best to pull them when they're young. If you do it right you just end up growing one giant trichome.
You people that like to fiddle with your plants, defoil is just your excuse to want to futz around in the flower room and its not necessary. Yeah plants been growing for 10s of thousands of years without chemical fertilizers and cal-mag and all that non-sense. Have at it. There are easier ways to grow, a lot easier ways.
Eventually you won't be able to compete due to your high costs and muddling about with the flowers.
My cost for this grow is about $200 dollars for electricity and water. Turn over 8 plants every 40-60 days @ 1.3 gm/watt. Do the math.
Just my opinion worth price paid.
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