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There are plenty of old hands been doing this forever got no problems using a simple neem
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Arsenic and lead are two naturally occurring products. That doesn't violate any 'rule' of organics. Bella donna? Naturally growing, naturally occurring plant that can kill you. Safety is not to be made the equivalent of organic, at least not in my opinion. Hell, how about radon? The issue this organic grower has with chemicals is that she knows that humankind doesn't know everything and we sure in hell don't fully understand the systems we're fucking around with, and history bears out that we often fuck it up in a really big way.
TG, I'm not suggesting you believe in faeries. I'm suggesting you read the very good, solid research that already exists. But it's clear to me that you feel you know everything you need to know, and yes, you put it out there in a manner that implies that you feel you're an expert where others don't know shit. The way you continually come at me, and then try to mitigate what you've written by saying that you don't sugar coat things only serves to show that you have a hair across your ass about me. That's fine, I know not everyone is going to like me, and I don't need everyone to like me. Hell, I don't need anyone to like me.
But what I write about, even if incomplete, is as well qualified as I can possibly make it. If I make an unequivocal statement it's because I can back my shit up, too. And so if you've actually got something that goes against my statements, show me something more than your flappin' gums, mkay? :makeup
Just sent an email to sc labs to find out if they can test final product for myclobutanil.
"Just" because it causes resistance? Yeah, that's but one very good reason to not deal with it. You must have missed all the rest of the stuff.why are you preaching all this stuff anyway? just because it builds a resistance you shouldnt use it? should we do away with antibiotics aswell??
Wait, dude... what? What's the lack of proof no one has regarding the health issues? I'm not appointing myself an expert, but I do appoint myself Ruler of My World and so do my very best to be the best Ruler of My World I can be. That means I spend a lot of time reading and trying to be as informed as possible.or is it the health aspect? which btw no one has any proof. im not doubting that you may be a very intelligent person or whatever, but you are no expert so really it comes across as the regular internet rant by a grower. and theres hundreds of growers online who can use google.
You don't actually know me, so... it's interesting this stance. What if I told you my family used to run a sugar plantation (over 1,000 acres)? Would that make any difference at all? You're telling me that the choice is to put profits over anything else, and you can't figure out where I land? What if I told you that I happen to be growing a market garden? Or is that not commercial enough for you? What the hell does it really matter, anyway? Are you trying to say that anyone who grows anything on a commercial level must use this shit? Do you have any idea what these commercial growers have done to themselves by over- and misuse of products such as fungicides?try growing commercially wether it be grapes or wheat or weed, when you have a pm problem, you gonna let your family starve because of your beliefs? lose your business or lose hundreds or thousands in profit?? doubt it.
yes it probs will build a resistance. it ''might'' but it might not. perhaps it (PM)will be irradicated. anyway i dont mean to be a dick but i wouldnt go around giving people the low down unless i was qualified to speak on the subject as a scientist or ploughing money into research or whatever.
i feel sorry for tg, i have the same feelings toward eagle20 as him.
"Just" because it causes resistance? Yeah, that's but one very good reason to not deal with it. You must have missed all the rest of the stuff.
Do you really want to get me started on antibiotics? Because as far as I'm concerned that's a tool that's been so over- and misused that we humans may very well be completely undone (i.e. made extinct) by one of the superbugs WE have created by the misuse of antibiotics. So, to sum up, yes, I think we should do away with the mis- and overuse of antibiotics. Antibiotics being prescribed, for instance, for a cold or flu.
Wait, dude... what? What's the lack of proof no one has regarding the health issues? I'm not appointing myself an expert, but I do appoint myself Ruler of My World and so do my very best to be the best Ruler of My World I can be. That means I spend a lot of time reading and trying to be as informed as possible.
You don't actually know me, so... it's interesting this stance. What if I told you my family used to run a sugar plantation (over 1,000 acres)? Would that make any difference at all? You're telling me that the choice is to put profits over anything else, and you can't figure out where I land? What if I told you that I happen to be growing a market garden? Or is that not commercial enough for you? What the hell does it really matter, anyway? Are you trying to say that anyone who grows anything on a commercial level must use this shit? Do you have any idea what these commercial growers have done to themselves by over- and misuse of products such as fungicides?
What if I told you that just this last March I burned over 12lbs of product because it had gone moldy from the PM vectored by root aphids? Right behind my house. Just threw it in the brush pile. Made absolutely certain there was no material remaining for anyone to try to smoke.
It's called "integrity" and some of you might like to try it on for size.
All I'm saying is READ THE FUCKING LABEL. Jesus Lame-jumpin' Christ, they say it on their very own label! It creates resistance. Period. I've found paper after paper discussing the resistance it's known to cause, and you can do the same thing. Not just via Google, but via Google Scholar (putting research assistants out of a job, that one is, but hey) which even tells you how often the paper in question has been cited.
You do know what a citation on a scientific paper is, right?
You must have missed Blaze's post, too. So much for stoner reading comprehension.
Really, cuz i find that to be 100% BULLSHIT. Scare tactics again. I have yet to see one of these "resistant" pm strains. SM referred to the white one last thread...and seems it wasn't the case?
And Norcal PM way aggressive/impossible to get rid of? They must be shitty growers, cuz all the norcal homies are CRANKIN and PM free. Learn to set up and run a room right- plain and simple.
Just sent an email to sc labs to find out if they can test final product for myclobutanil.
If they do, then we should be able to identify if there are any remnants of it after approx 65 -70 days of initial application.
Curious to see the thc and cannabanoid content in the cannadential pheno I have anyway. :banana1sv6:
The company's web site says that you only need to wait 14 days after spraying you apples to harvest. I'm pretty sure that it's not legal to print that for big Ag. if you can't do it without harming the public. Apples are a thin skin produce, if it was that bad, I don't think they would allow the spraying of the crops that late.
Let's not go over board with propaganda. However, thanks for looking out.
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