I'm curious to see how it handles the full capacity too, I have a few redundancies incase it all goes tits up, the only downside to using a normal fridge is they get too cold for the chlorophyllase to be active enough to break down the chlorophyll, they go into complete shutdown below 12° and the average home fridge is between 3°-6°, so he would have preserved terpenes microterpenes and flavonoids but would still have the hay smell and harsher smoke.i remember now.i saw those before mine. one dude did it in his normal fridge at home.used paper bags and it was a successful dry. he did a small amount, soo it will be interesting to see how long it takes for the bigger batches
I would love to hear how the bowl trimmer worked/works out. I'm thinking about picking one up but have been stalling not knowing how practical they are and how much they trim that doesn't need to be trimmed...?Hey Randy
Glad the plan hit the mark for you, seriously, feel free to hit me up anytime down the line if you’ve got questions. I enjoy condensing and cross-referencing this stuff, and between AI and my own digging I’ve built a pretty broad base. I do double-check anything I pass on, though, learned the hard way that AI can be sharp but also confidently wrong if you don’t already know enough to catch it. Textbooks for depth, AI for clarity is how I approach it.
On the Trivium: I’ve been reading and researching on and off for over 15 years before I even put seed to soil. Tried hydro once a decade ago but my knowledge (and method) back then was terrible and it put me off. Since then I’ve focused more on soil and ecology, and the Trivium framework just naturally fit the way I process information, what, why, how. These days with AI, it’s never been easier to test frameworks and fact-check across systems.
I actually started my seeds today. Rolled them in a bit of sandpaper to lightly scarify, then gave them a 20-hour soak in dechlorinated water with a drop of Trivium and kelp. After that, into peat pellets, holes dusted with mycorrhizal root booster. Put down 40 and I’m hoping for 36 to pop. Here’s a picture from today
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How did your trim go? I know the pain of that grind, trimming is easily my least favorite part of the whole process. Last run it took me close to 30 hours, and by the end I never wanted to look at another pair of scissors again. This time I’m investing in a bowl trimmer to save my sanity. View attachment 2522962How much did you manage to pull in the end, and how’s the quality looking?
Anyway, stoked we’re bouncing ideas like this. It’s rare to meet someone who digs into the deeper layers of thinking rather than just swapping recipes.
Thanks man I appreciate that, I'm really quite proud of what we have managed to achieve, we broke through the known ceiling with relative ease.This has been a tremendous read - thank you so much. Your attention to detail and the yield from that tent, with that many plants, and a (relatively) small light is incredible.
I'm also very interested in using AI as a tool for growing. It has saved me countless hours of research and having it update my daily diary with a copious amount of notes to learn from has been amazingly valuable for my second grow.
When I set this up in October, I decided to go with the 69+ controller from AC Infinity. It just felt like their AI controller was so new that I should wait until gen 2 or 3. How has your experience been with their AI controller?
I will let you know on the bowl trimmers I'm still deciding if I want to get one or not as it gives you beautifully trimmed buds but it takes off a lot of the exterior terps, trichomes and pistils, so you end up with much more smokable and good product in amongst your leaves and if your like me and don't do anything with your trimmings then it's a lot of wasted goods.I would love to hear how the bowl trimmer worked/works out. I'm thinking about picking one up but have been stalling not knowing how practical they are and how much they trim that doesn't need to be trimmed...?
11c?Quick update:
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Day 4 of being in boxes in the fridge the boxes are wicking too slowly so I will transfer the bud to paper bags and add a dehumidifier pack, humidity rose from 65% to 90% in the first 2 days and lowered to 85% after 3 days but I will need the fridge space in 10 days so I will be moving to the faster method, I have placed a wireless sensor in each box to measure humidity but I may need to purchase more one for each bag.
I smoked some of the velvet drip and the flavour and high are insane, tastes like sherbet and hits like a truck and that's before any proper cure.
Any questions?
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Yeah the fridge temp reads as 11° but inside the boxes is between 13-14° and top of fridge is 15°11c?
Whrn buds are fully dry.and you break it up then you noticr the difference with fridge and normal drying. Everybidy that tried mine comments smellsWorth noting that I can't recommend the refrigeration method highly enough, even though it's the slower of many methods the smell and flavour preservation are clear, every time I open the door, the smell floods the room but it also does a great job of containing all the smell.
I would say it already smells better than 90% of weed I've ever smoked 100% better than all the bud in Amsterdam, as that in my opinion all smells and tastes basically identical.
Also the bud structure is just incredible no flattened trichomes and no squashed buds each is as beautiful as it was when it left the plant.
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I've also ordered one of these for trimming to contain the smell when doing final trim. Only £30. Bargain for what it does
I honestly can wait for that stage, how many days does yours take from entering the fridge to fully dry? I approximate 12-14 days based on current water volume and wicking ratio but that may reduce to 10-12 days in paper bags.Whrn buds are fully dry.and you break it up then you noticr the difference with fridge and normal drying. Everybidy that tried mine comments smells
Around that time 10-15 days. Depends on my outside temps as well since fridge has to work harder when room is 30c compared to 18c.I honestly can wait for that stage, how many days does yours take from entering the fridge to fully dry? I approximate 12-14 days based on current water volume and wicking ratio but that may reduce to 10-12 days in paper bags.
Also do you continue to store yours in the fridge for curing?
Do you notice a deterioration in the quality over time? Or does it stay just as fresh and potent?
That makes sense I was curious to how the room temperature would effect the working function but it seems relatively unaffected so far.Around that time 10-15 days. Depends on my outside temps as well since fridge has to work harder when room is 30c compared to 18c.
I tried the storing this year but after 5months the biggest fattest bud molded.soo i am not gonna do it anymore maybe max 1month...
But ita my fault there was a lot inside
Half my arm and fist size it was a big boy main bud from purple there is photos of it from end of grow. I put it whole inside bad idea...That makes sense I was curious to how the room temperature would effect the working function but it seems relatively unaffected so far.
That's good to know will keep an eye on my larger buds, my largest is around the size of a pool ball between that and a tennis ball I may break it up now after hearing your experience..
What's the largest buds you put in the cooler? I tried to go no bigger than golf ball size but I have a few that are near tennis ball and not sure if the fridge will be able to get to the internal moisture.
Also did you use boveda packs or two way humidity packs? And it still went mouldy?
Jesus dude! that's about 5x more than I expected to ever see in a small fridgeHalf my arm and fist size it was a big boy main bud from purple there is photos of it from end of grow. I put it whole inside bad idea...
Didnt use boveda.and i think after a few months when humidity was okej the dehu disnt run and it has a big fan soo maybe the air didnt move enough under the pile
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It was close to 250g dry.Jesus dude! that's about 5x more than I expected to ever see in a small fridge, there was me worrying about too much plant matter, that looks like a good 3-4kg wet plant, do you dry them at all before stacking and did you not have issues of moisture buildup on the areas that where touching each other?
That bud is a monster I'm not surprised it went a lil mouldy inside did you manage to save much of her? Such fat calyxes on it never seen any pop that size
Deffo try fridge curing with bovida packs and glass jars apparently it will keep them fresh and flavourful for +12 months according to multiple AI sources.
I can't get over how jammed your fridge is
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