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Sweet. Thanks for the link and the info on the Phantoms. I have been using them for my 600 s and like em!http://growershouse.com/ceramic-science-315w-cmh-light-conversion-kit
The gen 1 phantom ballasts have issues. Problems were solved with gen2 models.
I trust your experience and by extension your friends'.
My buddy who's cheap but big told me these are the best, and I was 100% skeptical. LEDs are *still* not mature. T5s hot and inefficient. Plasmas cost prohibitive. Gavitas/DE's run BOILING HOT and need very tall ceilings, etc etc.
Sooooo much stoner tech hype bullshit for decades, seen it all. Soooo much fail.
But 315s, after exhaustive research here, YouTube videos, tests and comparisons, data, charts, graphs... the PAR, color, efficiency, temps, yields, penetration, cross lighting, bulb longevity, just ALL THE DATA theres literally no comparison.
My Solistek digi adjustables were unbeatable when I got them. Now Im planning them at 400w instead of the 1000/1100w they can push, and going with a dozen Boulders. The Boulders daisy chain! Up to 6! And they're adding LED pontoons for spectrum soon, plug right into units they attach to!
Adding 2 x 220v outlets gets me 12 (!) 315s, no need for control box just timer them (easy!), and dramatic increases in PAR, color, etc.
Will go to under 7000w down from 8800 (8 x 1100w overdrive HPS), lower heat, increase light and yields probably dramatically. Eliminate need for 2nd 3ton minisplit ($5k installed) and not need to spend a grand on bulbs every couple rounds. PLUS have open bulb 2k color HPS verticals paired with 315s for each tree.
And if Im correct, 315s have a share of UVB which helps kill bugs and mildew.
I see no problems except my time wasted and problems with 1000/1100w HPS in this build thats given me fits.
Sorry for long reply. I thoroughly trust @We Solidarity and the exhaustive, highly skeptical research Ive done. 315s are mature, for auto showrooms, developed by Philips, and give us plasma results for a fraction.
AND they can go veg to bloom, no spectrum shock nor different lights needed. Am I missing something?
315 rock. You won't be disappointed with them. If you are, you did something wrong.
My record pull with 3x60phps is a little over 4lbs dry and cured. My 1st pull with 4x315cmh pulled my normal average 3x600hps yields. But it did so only using 1260w vs 1800w of power. Plus my ac doesn't need to run as often with the cmh vs hps lights.
Bottom line, you get almost the same yields, but using about half the power.
The 600hps you were using were those in a sealed air cooled hood?
315 rock. You won't be disappointed with them. If you are, you did something wrong.
I get it takes money to make money but to change out all my hps lamps I would need 32 plus cmh. That's a lot of cash to save $500 a month on my electric bill.
So spend $14k to save $6k a year? It will take 2 years to break even. A lot can happen in 2 years. Again if my quality and yield improved it's an easier sell. I grow larger plants and I am worried about the light penetration as well. Heat is also a big concern. I get they run cooler but will and exposed cmh bulb really run cooler than a 600w hps in an air cooled hood? Not willing to upgrade all my a/c even if the yield an quality improves but both are very good already.
That helps a lot. Thanks. I run a sealed room and can not handle the added heat of an open bulb. I figured they would run hotter than an air cooled hood. I don't think the cmh will penetrate enough for me. I currently flower in a mix of hps and mh, I don't think the the cmh will offer enough improvement of quality or yield.
They cant be run in air cooled hoods. I thought about the combined but their foot print is so small unless you move your plants around (I can't I grow rdwc) they are useless.
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