im a ocean forest man when it comes to my medicine,i think a lot of issues that arise from ocean is the addition of the perlite,hear me out,the bag and mix is already what it is,doesnt perlite have lime in it also?some do,so if adding more air to there product they stand behind,isnt that altering the mix,i just have that thought,im by no mean sure,but altering the mix would rise the ph or nutes right ,maybe thats were i keep hearing ocean is to hot,i cant say that,i grow every thing in it,from fish bone roots to harvest,or seed to harvest,if any thing at all i think needs work is adjustments made for P and K balance come flower just saying,if the stuff was cheaper i would run the stuff in all my veggie gardens i love it