Goin down the rabbit hole

[RootsRuler]

Looking a bit rough make sure to give them slot of humidity as they weren’t completely hardened off. I’ve been giving them too much love with the mister bottle when before they weren’t getting as much attention at the old spot. I’m gonna hold back from misting the domes as much. I’ve had to resend some clones due to them basically going into shock from the dry air. If you need anything resent I got you . This is how they looked before being sent. Glad they are alive but this isn’t up to my standards. Keep the line of communication open fam and thanx for the support View attachment 1340244

Looks pretty healthy to me......nice job.

OP those clothes in your grow space are going to get mighty stinky in around 3 months......

 

[mrfreeze682]

Looks pretty healthy to me......nice job.

OP those clothes in your grow space are going to get mighty stinky in around 3 months......

yea i kno im trying to get them a tent soon

 

[Goodshit97]

Looks pretty healthy to me......nice job.

OP those clothes in your grow space are going to get mighty stinky in around 3 months......

My clothes always stink like fresh cut reefer, its bad lol. Ive never smoked in my car but it stinks like weed so bad.

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

I have not read every comment, but a closet will work if you line it with foil and arrange for ventilation. I am using a mix FFOF mixed with 1lb of a super soil in the bottom 1/3 of 5gal bags. Ideally I should not have to add amendments unless a deficiency turns up on the leaves, the roots reach for the bottom where the enhanced already rich soil is for the end of plants life. I will add cal-mag later on and maybe tiger bloom at flowering. I used 2 potting soils both organic, however the FFOF produced the better of my plants. I have no doubt there are 50 products as good or maybe better than Fox Farm, but I am not going to waste time trying others when I am satisfied. I just paid $80 for 3 bags from a local garden shop. It is better to shop local, I think.
That is about all I can add. I don't have temp and humidity on bluetooth, don't measure the lights with gauges. I have a temp and humidity gauge hanging from the roof adjust what I can and believe the seeds know everything else. I put seeds in peat trays, add water then put the tray on a heat pad, keep damp and I have had only two seeds fail to pop out of twenty in the past two years. This year I am using dispensary seeds for my tents and in my yard.
As others have mentioned the wonderful odor of these plants can be strong so venting to maintain a correct atmosphere is a must. Where you vent to is also important so you also need a good filter. I just put 6" ventilator on my 4x8 and hope it is enough, it blows hard and the basement is cool anyway so should do. I have a 4x4 with a 4" blower and did the job sell with 5 plants in it but too cramped.
I have heard about flushing but don't understand why, why put something in you want to take out. I don't think stressing the plants in that way is helpful to the end product. I understand some stressing can cause the plants to produce more terps or oils if the atmosphere is dry but flushing seems harmful.
Perhaps someone can fill me in on this and why.

 

[mrfreeze682]

Cant answer the flushing part but I sincerely appreciate the kind words and the information. Im on a low budget grow because i just jumped in without planning anything. My brain operates like that sometimes. So i raided my sister in laws garden for used soil and pots. The light is a @PhlizonGrowLight Phlizon (pro 2000) PHX4 240W Full spectrum Dimmable light. Its an amazing light so far. I bought the Dirty Dozen nutrients from Fox Farms and have been giving half doses on the dosage chart. I suspect i will be giving my clone gals full doses but i had some left over with half a dose and decided to let them drink it maybe preventing too much shock? Sounded good at the time but i dont have any concrete information to base it off. Im learning to build soil sowly. i plan to buy an exhaust fan from ac infinity just because i can control it with my phone. Plus am going to supplement some side lights going up and down the corners of the shed room so i can get better light penetration maybe bigger nugzz all through the plant? I saw MrCannucks grow on youtube and he did it and it was crazy. Inner buds and smaller buds on them like buds growing on buds. It was weird but bad ass. I really need to dampen my footprint more in the comming weeka because the smell is gona get loud so im thinking of venting through a 5 gallon bucket mixed with fabuloso and pinsol. In prison when we cooked hooch we had a burper peanut butter jar filled with bleach so it would kill the smell instantly when she burped. Im thinking it could work here. My shed is 6x6 i think with one exhaust and a bucket dampener should do the trick. Thanks for the support guys and the comments. I read em all and take what i can from the info you guys feed me. Thanks again!

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

Happy frog or Ocean Forest can do wonders till week 3 with mostly just water (you can gauge and add NPK accordingly depending on how they look)

Less is more ..

No need for any programs, recipes or schedules ..

Remember: The plant is doing everything .. you just need to facilitate the environment and stay out of it for the most part.

Let them do what they do.

Cheers and wish you very well ..

I just reread your comment and I think it is great advice.

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

so are fox farms nutes synthetic now?? i figure i already started with the nutes and spent the money no returns. i would like to do the worm castings and mycorrhizae and build my soil. This is going to take time and i have room outside for areas i can use to build compost etc. @PahPahCee i would like to pick your information on gow to start my soil because i work in the restaurant industry and we cook eggs, fish, alot of protein wich i give my dog. i saw some of his dino poos and weeds are humongous! on top of the poo. I wanted to start gathering his excrement and build a soil sorta. I started the swamp water but i duno if im doing it right

I am still catching up but I am going to be candid because I am retired on a budget. You are trying advanced growing with conditions very far from optimal. I don't know man but spending money on clones and chemicals won't short cut you to your goal. You can't spend your way there. If you are growing indoors you needed a tent or make one, more than enough lights, and good ventilation to control heat and humidity. Knowing the ph is important so you should have already had a meter for that. I believe it is high ph causes nute lock out. As someone said, your seeds have already spent energy growing a long stem that could have been spent in leaf development and roots.
I think you will need a 5 gal pot for each plant and organic potting soil, I think one bag has like 9 gallons or so and. I think what I am saying is, back up man, don't love your plants to death, give em a good home and you don't have to do something to em every time you look at them or everyday.
You know what? I'm sorry. I read this and thought how your process seemed to get way ahead of yourself. Gardening teaches patience and is a reward in itself.

 

[RootsRuler]

I am still catching up but I am going to be candid because I am retired on a budget. You are trying advanced growing with conditions very far from optimal. I don't know man but spending money on clones and chemicals won't short cut you to your goal. You can't spend your way there. If you are growing indoors you needed a tent or make one, more than enough lights, and good ventilation to control heat and humidity. Knowing the ph is important so you should have already had a meter for that. I believe it is high ph causes nute lock out. As someone said, your seeds have already spent energy growing a long stem that could have been spent in leaf development and roots.
I think you will need a 5 gal pot for each plant and organic potting soil, I think one bag has like 9 gallons or so and. I think what I am saying is, back up man, don't love your plants to death, give em a good home and you don't have to do something to em every time you look at them or everyday.
You know what? I'm sorry. I read this and thought how your process seemed to get way ahead of yourself. Gardening teaches patience and is a reward in itself.

Weed has grown wild without our help for centuries. Crabs right. Do whatever you need to keep your plants flourishing but let them do their thing.

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

Weed has grown wild without our help for centuries. Crabs right. Do whatever you need to keep your plants flourishing but let them do their thing.

Thanks, from his comments I thought I could get to it without offending him.

 

[elusiveshame]

Man, I’m gonna do my next grow in miracle gro (again) to show that it’s not as evil as people make it out to be. If weed can grow in garden dirt, it can grow in MG just fine. If you don’t learn to read your plant, the soil doesn’t matter. Is MG the best? Nope. Is it terrible to use? Also nope. Some people don’t want to spend $20-$40 on a bag of soil, so it’s a perfectly viable option.

Every nutrient “regiment” is pretty much good enough to grow weed. You don’t need to spend hundreds of dollars on 189 different things to amend your soil.

Poor op with everyone telling him 467 ways to add nutrients and the thousand products available. Hopefully he can figure things out.

 

[RootsRuler]

Man, I’m gonna do my next grow in miracle gro (again) to show that it’s not as evil as people make it out to be. If weed can grow in garden dirt, it can grow in MG just fine. If you don’t learn to read your plant, the soil doesn’t matter. Is MG the best? Nope. Is it terrible to use? Also nope. Some people don’t want to spend $20-$40 on a bag of soil, so it’s a perfectly viable option.

Every nutrient “regiment” is pretty much good enough to grow weed. You don’t need to spend hundreds of dollars on 189 different things to amend your soil.

Poor op with everyone telling him 467 ways to add nutrients and the thousand products available. Hopefully he can figure things out.

I'd say yes and no. I've grown in MG before and had no issues except......I noticed throughout that the plants just didn't seem to have the same vitality that ones grown in soil targeted at weed had. Maybe it's the NPK makeup or maybe it's the absence of certain micronutrients that the weed targeted soil had. Not sure but what I do know is MG can certainly produce weed. Are you giving your plant the optimal soil conditions. Nope but weed does grow in it.

 

[elusiveshame]

I'd say yes and no. I've grown in MG before and had no issues except......I noticed throughout that the plants just didn't seem to have the same vitality that ones grown in soil targeted at weed had. Maybe it's the NPK makeup or maybe it's the absence of certain micronutrients that the weed targeted soil had. Not sure but what I do know is MG can certainly produce weed. Are you giving your plant the optimal soil conditions. Nope but weed does grow in it.

Agreed 100%

When I joined here, I avoided mentioning I was using MG with my first set of questions because I didn’t want to hear about it lol. Still pulled a decent first harvest off 2 plants (bag seed unknown genetics).

There will always be *something* better than what we’re doing, but not everyone has the facilities or cash to do these things. I feel as though people forget that not everyone has the same access or budget as they do, and it’s frustrating to see a ton of replies lamenting a beginners choice {in soil and nutrients} and suggesting tons of other things they should do. Even as far as trying to return used nutrients because *one* person doesn’t like that brand even though hundreds of people here use them.

 

[RootsRuler]

Agreed 100%

When I joined here, I avoided mentioning I was using MG with my first set of questions because I didn’t want to hear about it lol. Still pulled a decent first harvest off 2 plants (bag seed unknown genetics).

There will always be *something* better than what we’re doing, but not everyone has the facilities or cash to do these things. I feel as though people forget that not everyone has the same access or budget as they do, and it’s frustrating to see a ton of replies lamenting a beginners choice {in soil and nutrients} and suggesting tons of other things they should do. Even as far as trying to return used nutrients because *one* person doesn’t like that brand even though hundreds of people here use them.

I hear ya but you have to understand. Pretty much everyone that joins this forum is looking for tips on how to grow weed in the best conditions possible. MG is not the best conditions possible. I agree that we need to hold judgement on people just because they don't use the optimal of everything but I think a lot of that comes from forum members genuine desire to see said member produce the dankest weed possible, but yes, we need to temper our comments understanding that not everyone can finance the perfect environment for the plants we love.

 

[Vb2flat2surf]

Shit you could just do what I did with 2 of my last plants growing in Promix and Gaia Green. I took plants out of pots, cut half the roots off, rinsed as much dirt off, stuck them in hydro. If you just wanna try some confusing fun shit lol. DIDNT think it would work but now have 2 big ass hydros.
Ditch the Miracle grow IMO

 

[biggerbud420]

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[elusiveshame]

I hear ya but you have to understand. Pretty much everyone that joins this forum is looking for tips on how to grow weed in the best conditions possible. MG is not the best conditions possible. I agree that we need to hold judgement on people just because they don't use the optimal of everything but I think a lot of that comes from forum members genuine desire to see said member produce the dankest weed possible, but yes, we need to temper our comments understanding that not everyone can finance the perfect environment for the plants we love.

I understand. But people seem to forget when people post:

Reason for this is since the tax man aint knocked on my door yet i cant buy the equipment i want

OP already stated they're on a budget. While the info might be great for future grows, having him do all sorts of things now seems to not take into consideration his situation that he's made clear from the very beginning.

 

[RootsRuler]

I understand. But people seem to forget when people post:



OP already stated they're on a budget. While the info might be great for future grows, having him do all sorts of things now seems to not take into consideration his situation that he's made clear from the very beginning.

I hear ya. I agree. Sometimes in our zeal to get the newb grower on to the best we forget that there are budgets and experience to consider.

 

[Crabgrassfarms]

Even the best of things can get over complicated and not worth the return or they diminish greatly. If I were in it for the loot I would be more concerned with increased production and a quicker growth. I also believe that no matter what you do you will not a higher THCa count than the seeds genetics allow but you can ruin it. I know that from smoking so much indoor grown smoke the outdoor grown seems harsher, I think because the terps are increased because of our lighting.
My first grow I changed up or did something I saw or read and the next week want to change again on the advice of someone else on youtube. My plants would have grown into my lights even after topping them, at the wrong time, anyway I chopped the supposed autos after 5 months in a constant veg. Failure but for the experience, but obviously not discouraged. I have heard many others have mucked up their first grow as well.

 

[Frailless420]

So here i am starting a grow diarie all organic only using some miracle grow and bloom stuff from home depot. popping three varieties, tropicana grapefruit , durban poison , super silver haze all from @QuestionPoint. shout out to the netherlands! im in texas so this is gona be a wild ride. using some coffee filters and a dark spot to get germination going then transplanting to some bigger pots. Reason for this is since the tax man aint knocked on my door yet i cant buy the equipment i want lol. i got these in and im super excited and did a lil research. organic just means no chemicals and it can be done. So here goes my first grow diary . Down the rabbit hole we go. …. ps i know something is gona f*k up but its ok….

U need to wash that foot my man lol.

 

[mrfreeze682]

Update the gals from seedlings are doing great. Im treating the clones to a mist every 15 to 30 minutes while im home. Everything is manual as i dont have the fancy contraptions other growers might got but im hoping my efforts are answered with a live plant after all is said and done. I am going to water the seedling gals tonight when the light shuts off. I got these ladies a fan and uped the light. Had it ser to 4 but since i got the fan i raised it to 6. Dont know what im doing or even if its working but the ladies are alive and alls good so far. No crazy update. Here are some photos.