So this is my first run using straight H16 without Big Bud, and I have to say that 5 weeks in and I am NOT impressed. Usually my buds are huge at this point. Do things kick in a bit later when running Fire alone?
@oscar169 I have been planning a H16/Aptus run for a while now. I just took a hard hit financially so it will be a little bit.....but it is definitely on my agenda.
OK....I sent out a few PM's....but figured it would be a good idea to ask the question here as well to see what everyone else is doing.
FIRE/MOAB what rates are you running them?
I also have to say I just went through the same thing. I ended up throwing some MOAB into the mix week 6 and 7 which definitely helped. I ran Fire the last week of veg also. I've had better results with H16 and Big Bud or Massive. I'll give it another go and see if I can get it dialed better. Still, things are turning out pretty good.
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On my last run I ran Fire at 1ml starting a week before flip until the end of week 5. I also add Big Bud at week 2 and run it until week 5 as well. Then I hit them with the HH?MOAB combo week 6 and 7. Mind you that was a 9 week room.I would also like to know about the fire/big bud combo. Im very happy with the heavy 16 line. Its fuckin bomb! Goodjob bryce!
Actually the Fire run came on really strong in the end. I'm going recant on my prior statement about better results with big bud or massive. Really liking the end product with Fire. I still think that the MOAB helped out though.
I used MOAB at full strength with 1/2 strength base for the last feed of the day. I feed 4x daily. The first 3 feeds are with the regular h16 combo last feed with MOAB. I eventually added 1ml/gal of Fire to the MOAB mix. This may be confusing but it works well for me. It's all automated but I do have to turn a ball valve to switch to the moab tank for that last feed.
The combo will put that last swell on them.. Best of luck.. The fire/Moab combo made me a believer...On my last run I ran Fire at 1ml starting a week before flip until the end of week 5. I also add Big Bud at week 2 and run it until week 5 as well. Then I hit them with the HH?MOAB combo week 6 and 7. Mind you that was a 9 week room.
That sounds pretty awesome Chron. I thought I had heard a few people say that bud development came on a little later using Fire....and now I hear it again from you....makes me feel a bit better about things.
Two days into the Fire/MOAB combo and they look as though they are starting to fatten up a bit. Time to start busting out the yo-yo's.
I went lighter early on... And maxed out at 2ml per gal, the Moab I tend to go a little less as to not burner them up...I'm thinking this would be the same ratios that we all did with the HH/MOAB,
2.5 ml of Fire per Gal/ MOAB 1tsp to 5 Gallons
What were the numbers that you used ?
Thanks for the info Bro..:)I went lighter early on... And maxed out at 2ml per gal, the Moab I tend to go a little less as to not burner them up...
Yup that'll work just the same.. Add some vitamin B and ur good to go u will have the same mix as MOAB.. That's the next route for me..Thanks for the info Bro..:)
I think I might just buy a 50 # bag of the 0-52-34, seems to be exactly what Mad Farmer is selling in their bottles,
I'll have to look into the vit BYup that'll work just the same.. Add some vitamin B and ur good to go u will have the same mix as MOAB.. That's the next route for me..
I got a gallon bottle at Home Depot for like 8 bucks.I'll have to look into the vit B
post a link the gallon your talking about, the other link for the dry is out of stock,I got a gallon bottle at Home Depot for like 8 bucks.
Or you can go the dry route......
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