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I really hope these things arent root aphids, Iv been reading all day on em and the majority of people say there is no hope, just dump the plants and dont even bother trying to fight it! Apparently they are even worse than the dreaded spidermites. From...
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I really hope these things arent root aphids, Iv been reading all day on em and the majority of people say there is no hope, just dump the plants and dont even bother trying to fight it! Apparently they are even worse than the dreaded spidermites.

From the sounds of it they are more common than people think, its just that most people never even realise they have them.

Im going to let my coco dry up for 1-3 days I think, and start feeding every 2nd day instead of every day too.
 
Some will say not to do but 1st lets make dang sure whats in the coco do you or dont you have a root aphid or a FNt bug of some sort u have to know for sure so find a magnifier or dig a small amount of soil out, check it very closely also skip a water feed and let the coco dry up keep the heat up and get a few sticky traps see what ya get.
once you know read lots of what Sea-maiden has written up and check the other threads with same issues.

At this point you have beat so many odds and done so well don't let this bug thing screw ya.

Irish How long would it take if Ii put some of Caps Beneficial in a bag and sent it to you to feed your babies ??
Do you know what the Air activated Compost is ACT ? or OG biowar ? its good microbes that fight and protect your plants
I have some and you could benefit from it
if ya want.
but for sure get the bugs Dead

STAY POSITIVE Irish
FlyJ

ACT and OG biowar?

And thanks man, I really appriciate that you would do that for me :-) Unfortunatly it would take many weeks for me to recieve anything from the States. Really appriciate the kind offer though.

Would they have that kind of stuff on amazon?
 
"You cannot kill root aphids. The only way to get rid of them is to get rid of everything that has roots..buy everything new..new pots etc., scrub your trays to lookin new, vacuum everything up and start over or they will keep coming back. Start over and sterlize everything. If you have them that's how you get rid of them you cannot kill them in your root zone.

Do not accept rooted clones from any one, cut rooted clones you get and re root them yourself in an environment you know isn't contaminated

I closed this thread because I just included the solution to how to stop them. Doing it any other way is following misinformation and a detriment to your garden as a whole."

Wow, I REALLY hope these things are not root aphids!
 
Hey man, have a look at this article just in case, i stumbled across it a while back:

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~from the book "The Gardener's Monthly And Horticulturist V25", by Thomas Meehan.~

Hot Water To Kill Insects

In the first volume of the Gardeners' Monthly, probably one of the most valuable papers published was one on the use of hot water in destroying plant lice. Many have thanked us since for giving them such a simple and effectual plan. The following details have recently appeared in the London Gardeners' Magazine, and as there are some suggestions in it, not noted in our original paper where 130F was given as the degree of limit, it will be useful to reproduce it here :

"Water is a cheap insecticide insufficiently appreciated, but capable of more extended use than the majority of those who already believe in it are aware. It is quite certain that the best cultivation will not prevent the occurrence amongst plants of such pests as aphids, red spider, mealy bug, and a few of their near relatives. Therefore it will not do to dismiss the subject of plant vermin by saying that good cultivation is a sufficient preventive, though it is unquestionably true that the most natural conditions for vigorous growth are also just those which keep vermin at a distance. We do not intend here to enter upon a general consideration of the subject, but to relate a few particulars of experiments that have been made at Stoke Newington, with a view to determine the extent to which hot water may be employed for the destruction of the insects that most commonly infest plants. The few experiments made have been attended with such promising results that we shall hope to find opportunity soon for repeating them in a more extended and systematic manner. For the present we shall speak of aphids only, and as that is the most prevalent of plant pests, we trust that these remarks will be useful to many readers.

It appears, then, that aphids quickly perish if immersed in water heated to 120° Fah. We obtained from various sources plants infested with green fly, and cleansed them by the simple process of dipping. As the experiments were made in the month of February, we thought it probable that aphis might endure in June a temperature many degrees higher than that which proved fatal to them in the earlier and colder season. Hence it became desirable to ascertain the degree of heat the plants could endure in the dipping process. A number of herbaceous and soft-wooded plants were therefore subjected to the process of immersion in water heated to various degrees above 120. We found that fuchsias were unharmed at 140, but at 1500 the young leaves were slightly injured. Calceolarias suffered at 1400, but the plants were not killed, though their soft tops perished. Pelargoniums were unhurt up to 150, but the slightest rise beyond that figure killed the soft wood and the young leaves completely. Chinese primulas were injured by any rise beyond 140, and this at last proved to be the most general maximum, and may be cited as a rule for observance.

Centaureas, sedums, saxifragas, thyrsacan-thus, justicias, ferns, heliotropes, petunias, begonias, mignonette, and many other plants of soft texture, were unhurt by being dipped in water at 140, but the slightest rise beyond that point was followed by blackening of the leaves, and consequent disfigurement of the plant, and at 150 the process of killing commenced. About ten years ago we reported in the Floral World that Fairy or Lawrence roses, which are grown in quantities in pots for market, could be best kept clean by dipping in hot water, as at 120° the plant is not injured, and every aphis upon it is destroyed. This simple method of removing vermin from plants is, we are quite satisfied, capable of very general adoption, in place of more troublesome and more expensive plans. We shall be glad of any aid our readers can afford towards the reduction to system of the facts of the case. To what extent can we carry on an offensive warfare against scale, red spider, and all the rest of the little foes that plague us in the garden? The question can be better answered by many than a few.

It is eminently a question for those who have opportunity and a liking for experiments, and who can afford to kill a few plants, if need be, to make a sure test of the respective powers of endurance of high temperatures by various orders and genera.

Notwithstanding it is nearly twenty years ago since the Gardeners' Monthly published the fact that water heated to 120 or 130, was the easiest and best remedy against all sorts of insects which infest greenhouse plants, people are very much afraid of it. To encourage these timid people, we give the following bit of experience contributed by a correspondent of the Journal of Horticulture:

"Last spring I read in the Journal that the best way to get rid of insects destructive to Orchids was to plunge the pots in hot water at a temperature of I20°. I was rather in doubt whether it was safe to do this, consequently tried two or three pots that I knew were pretty well full of woodlice, or, perhaps I should say, appeared so from the condition of the roots. The contents of these pots all changed, the insects were killed, and the Orchids improved. Seeing that no injury was caused to the plants, I last August plunged every Orchid I had in water heated to 120. I have found that it has not injured one plant. Dendrobium densi-florum that I subjected to this treatment has now no less than forty-two spikes of bloom, and these in a few days will be fully expanded."

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Apparently, flushing thoroughly with hot water (120-125F or 48-52C) will kill root aphids... I don't know for sure as I haven't needed to try it for myself, but you could definitely use it as a last resort before closing down your grow. Best of luck :)
 
Ohh man i don't want to see ur hard work go to waste. No letting down!!

I'm gonna try and give u a few thing to look into.

p73 oregano oil or juice
peppermint oil
D-limonene: a citrus oil effective against root aphids
Thyme oil

U might even want to make ur pH acidic to the point that u can... i mean make life hell for those aphids! They don't like salt.

If i had exhausted all options i would lastly try:
-water
-baking soda
-p73 oregano juice
-peppermint oil
-d-limonene

mix solution...don't know what mix/dose should be but they are powerful agents. keep in mind.

then wash out your medium with plain water.
 
Thank you @just.blaze & @canadaseed very helpful posts there.

Well I can say one thing with certainty: no matter what I will NOT be shutting down my grow. Even if things get very bad, Il continue. Even if I only end up with an ounce or two of bud by the end. Still aiming for as close to 6oz as possible though.

I have yet to determine if they are in fact root aphids as I wont have a microscope for another few weeks. My plants are perfectly fine and healthy, and showing no signs of anything wrong. Im going to watch them closely and see if they start showing symptoms of root aphid damage.
 
Im quite relieved thanks to this thread

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community...ungus-gnats-and-other-fun-bugs-id-pics.55071/

Turns out I have "springtails", which are actually harmless and a sign that everything is perfect in my medium!

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Great news... springtails are friendly ghost bugs... a sign that all is well in your grow medium:D

You're doing a great job of tending to your plants, keep it up and take the springtails as a sign of good things to come.
 
There Ya grow my friend
With every new day something new to learn
You will have rock in the Irish Dank
Keep it green Bro and stay ++++++positive.

ALWAYS On your side OG biowar take a look at a few of the capulator threads if you have time....
Peace FlyJ
 
Im still going to let the coco dry a bit just in case they are root aphids, but the things I seen are almost identical to the springtails in the above pics
 
Just got home and inspected my plants, they are looking healthy as FUCK! Not a single blemish, leaf curl, nothing. These ladies are PERFECT!

Also its Day 16, and literally overnight almost every top is now hairier than a 1970's vagina :-D

These plants are just beautiful, I could just look at them all day.
 
told ya ;)

can't wait for the next round of pics

I tried taking a few but the hairy tops wont show up properly on my crappy phones camera. I think Il keep you all in suspense until Day 21 when they should be hairier than a feminists armpit :-P
 
Quick update, its Day 17 and my plants are coming along nicely. Apart from one which I believe I stupidly stunted by accidentaly lollipopping a bit too much that day. Its pistil formation is far behind the rest now
 
Comin along like a champ Irish, stay focus on the underside of her too, watch for over crowding and keep the area CLEAN you will be happy you did.

The strides leaps and bounds brother you have arrived at the BIG ASS SMILES TIME. . . . .
looks great Irish
FlyJ
 
Comin along like a champ Irish, stay focus on the underside of her too, watch for over crowding and keep the area CLEAN you will be happy you did.

The strides leaps and bounds brother you have arrived at the BIG ASS SMILES TIME. . . . .
looks great Irish
FlyJ

Thanks bro, they are very overcrowded and tight against each other and even growing into each other. Is this ok?
 
In my limited experience the plants will fight for the light and the strongest will win out Thats fine As far as you helping out by cutting back the smaller less vigorous growth for the stronger branching to advance and grow . . . . BUT see how others feel about or say but trimming for the strong ones IMO. Healthy and full is better than crowded and light starved.
No mater what you choose make sure its what you are cool with. a little trimm aint a bad thing. . . . . .
 
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