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HPS light superior vs current led tech?

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Fangthane

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916Fisherman said:
How much actual watts are these pulling?
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250 watts is the actual draw. Usually +/- like 5% I think.
 
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indeed, with these they always deal in actual watts
 
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Depends on the chips you get, and the manufacture willingsness to cut corners if you order direct from China.

Ill tell you this much, we have bought samples from 15 different manufactures. Not a single one delivered what there were suppose to. We finally found one to, but toke ages.

½-1 year minimum, unless you get one of the better ones from day 1. Then it will last until fans give out (if it has a fan) And you can expect a minimum of 50000 hours as Advertised, this is about 8 years if you grow 365 days a year, 16 hours a day.
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it sounds good, and I may buy a smaller unit and test it, see what it can do. Right now, I really don't have a need for a light, my bulb will last about a year, I will be looking by then, if not, I buy another bulb, and wait another year.
 
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Depends on the chips you get, and the manufacture willingsness to cut corners if you order direct from China.

Ill tell you this much, we have bought samples from 15 different manufactures. Not a single one delivered what there were suppose to. We finally found one to, but toke ages.

½-1 year minimum, unless you get one of the better ones from day 1. Then it will last until fans give out (if it has a fan) And you can expect a minimum of 50000 hours as Advertised, this is about 8 years if you grow 365 days a year, 16 hours a day.
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I assume this for a prebuilt unit and not one of the DIY kits on Alibabba?
 
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Depends on the chips you get, and the manufacture willingsness to cut corners if you order direct from China.

Ill tell you this much, we have bought samples from 15 different manufactures. Not a single one delivered what there were suppose to. We finally found one to, but toke ages.

½-1 year minimum, unless you get one of the better ones from day 1. Then it will last until fans give out (if it has a fan)
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I assume this for a prebuilt unit and not one of the DIY kits on Alibabba?
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Not it wasnt for DIY kit, but costumized lights.
 
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theres also a good thread on grasscity i will get the link to. theres literally no reason to tell anyone to avoid this supplier, they have a good reputation and have serviced the DIY LED crowd for years.
 
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meanwell HLG drivers, and samsung diodes on a good quality PCB.. it is what it is, the parts speak for themselves.
 
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here is the thread over at grasscity, lots of people who have ordered them, are happy with them, and are using them very successfully in grows.

https://forum.grasscity.com/threads...ds-the-supplier.1481967/page-53#post-24808436
 
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Cheers Roland I appreciate the warnings. But I won't be changing out all 4 of my lights in my 8x8 at once.
I would be buy one and test it.
Even just for the hell of it to curb my curiosity.........

But theres literally a thread of "Chinese knockoff boards " over there on rollitup.

These gentlemen have already gone through buying off this manufacture kingbright. Dealt with the sellers. Tried the lights. Made grow journals.
It's not a split decision.
I've been monitoring chinese quantum boards for a bit on various cannaforums. And the advice they always give.......head over to rollitup dot org and talk to the boys.
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I tried signing up on rollitup but the confirmation email never comes
 
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Maybe it's in your junk or something bro
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I’ve checked that since yesterday and still nothing. Kinda frustrating
 
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I’ve checked that since yesterday and still nothing. Kinda frustrating
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Booted before you ever got to join! :crying2:
 
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Booted before you ever got to join! :crying2:
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Ouch Hahahaha
 
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Here's the companies I have looked into to price LED or cob, to be honest, with the LED market, it is in shambles. I have poured over a lot of forums, just lurking and listening, here are ALL the places I have looked and even some of the parts for my own build. If the LED market was more reliable and honest, I wouldn't be bitching about them, I would be buying from them.

LEDSupply - Lighting Product Solutions

Buy LED replacement parts here

LED grow light replacement parts: LEDs, chips, power supplies, fans, lenses, reflectors and more!
www.hydrogrowparts.com

Rapid LED

Affordable LED Lighting for Growers and Makers. Build your own high quality LED lights using name brand parts at an affordable price. Minimal knowledge required.
www.rapidled.com

cob led diy chip - Buy cob led diy chip with free shipping | Banggood Shopping

Buy the best and latest cob led diy chip on banggood.com offer the quality cob led diy chip on sale with worldwide free shipping. | Shopping
www.banggood.com



Electric Vehicles and Charging Stations - EV charger solutions

Discover the benefits of electric vehicles and the importance of convenient charging stations for a greener future. Explore EV charger solutions. Language: US English
directvoltage.com

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Shop component LEDs, lead lamps, fuse type lamps, axial lamps for vintage stereo equipment, wedge lamps, lamp sockets, and LED strip tape lights & controllers at Parts Express.
www.parts-express.com

Electronic Store | Products In Stock | Jameco Electronics

Jameco Electronics is a leading electronics store with over 45 years in business selling electronic components, parts, and kits at competitive prices. Shop now.
www.jameco.com

This is just a small list, I have actually seven other places I have looked including alibaba. I do research when I look into something, and when I do research I don't rely on company plugs, aside from just the links I have presented, I also have many links that are raw science. I saved these links on the matter they are useful and give me insight. I built my own computer, I built it almost five years ago, I can play Fallout 4 on it without a hiccup. You would be amazed at how much I spent, even more so, the six month intensive research I did before I even assembled it. I have had my PC for so long I don't remember what is under the hood so to speak, it took me six months before I was willing to invest.
 
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Here's the companies I have looked into to price LED or cob, to be honest, with the LED market, it is in shambles. I have poured over a lot of forums, just lurking and listening, here are ALL the places I have looked and even some of the parts for my own build. If the LED market was more reliable and honest, I wouldn't be bitching about them, I would be buying from them.

LEDSupply - Lighting Product Solutions

Buy LED replacement parts here

LED grow light replacement parts: LEDs, chips, power supplies, fans, lenses, reflectors and more!
www.hydrogrowparts.com

Rapid LED

Affordable LED Lighting for Growers and Makers. Build your own high quality LED lights using name brand parts at an affordable price. Minimal knowledge required.
www.rapidled.com

cob led diy chip - Buy cob led diy chip with free shipping | Banggood Shopping

Buy the best and latest cob led diy chip on banggood.com offer the quality cob led diy chip on sale with worldwide free shipping. | Shopping
www.banggood.com



Electric Vehicles and Charging Stations - EV charger solutions

Discover the benefits of electric vehicles and the importance of convenient charging stations for a greener future. Explore EV charger solutions. Language: US English
directvoltage.com

Home

Shop component LEDs, lead lamps, fuse type lamps, axial lamps for vintage stereo equipment, wedge lamps, lamp sockets, and LED strip tape lights & controllers at Parts Express.
www.parts-express.com

Electronic Store | Products In Stock | Jameco Electronics

Jameco Electronics is a leading electronics store with over 45 years in business selling electronic components, parts, and kits at competitive prices. Shop now.
www.jameco.com

This is just a small list, I have actually seven other places I have looked including alibaba. I do research when I look into something, and when I do research I don't rely on company plugs, aside from just the links I have presented, I also have many links that are raw science. I saved these links on the matter they are useful and give me insight. I built my own computer, I built it almost five years ago, I can play Fallout 4 on it without a hiccup. You would be amazed at how much I spent, even more so, the six month intensive research I did before I even assembled it. I have had my PC for so long I don't remember what is under the hood so to speak, it took me six months before I was willing to invest.
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Problem is they all Lie.

Look at Fisherman Link, he even said they are "vouched for" at rollit, But advertising a 200 Lumen/Watt 301H chip (?)

First of the peak efficiency of 301H is about the same as LM301B , second lets say they advertise the "actual output",i can tell you the 301H will never be running 200, due to heat/driver etc. The actual output meassured is closer to 150-160. Basicly before you even buy, the manufacture doesnt know hes own product.

2nd: You dont buy 301H as they run a 6500K spectrum, which is far worse than the LM301B even if it can reach a 3% efficiency gain.

We use the 301B For this exact reason.
 

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LM301B | SAMSUNG LED | Samsung LED Global Website

Samsung LM301B - Mid Power LEDs. Find out more tech spec and documentation about LM301B in Samsung LED global website
www.samsung.com
 
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LM301B | SAMSUNG LED | Samsung LED Global Website

Samsung LM301B - Mid Power LEDs. Find out more tech spec and documentation about LM301B in Samsung LED global website
www.samsung.com
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Yea the maximum output of 301b is 223 Lumen/W if you run them at 0.2W

The actual perfomance will never be this, as their is driver and heat lose.
 
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*there
 
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*there
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It took me a minute to catch that......I was two bowl tokes in and had this dim candle go off above my head.
 
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the grammar is out to lunch.
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Sorry i'm not very good at english grammatics, hope you can understand it anyway.
 
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