Increasing Resin Production, And Density

[Underthesun]

BioStimz, could you take some bagseed and grow a more potent strain than a well developed tried and true potent strain? The well known potent strain gets grown by a reputable grower using the sun in an ideal climate. You get to grow your bagseed in your secret method garden. How will it turn out? I think I know where my money would go.

 

[Underthesun]

Other methods I have read about to increase trichome density outdoors. From my reading; trichomes are a defense mechanism by the plant to protect it from elements. Minor stressors can increase trich production. Such as cold temps, dry air, and letting the soil dry out before harvest.

I’m sure there are other methods and please note, this is not from some scientific research just claims from other growers. I have all these stressors naturally in my climate...so I can’t say otherwise from 1st hand experience outdoors.

Please also keep in mind. I have seen ditch weed gleaming with trichs in KS...but smoke that and nothing but a nasty head buzz. So trichome density is 2nd to genetics. If I had lots of cash, space, and legally able to grow lots of plants, my method of increasing bud density and thrichome density would be to start a large scale breeding program, imho. I’m super glad others have done this leg work for me to enjoy great cannabis.

 

[BioStimz]

BioStimz, could you take some bagseed and grow a more potent strain than a well developed tried and true potent strain? The well known potent strain gets grown by a reputable grower using the sun in an ideal climate. You get to grow your bagseed in your secret method garden. How will it turn out? I think I know where my money would go.

If you think outdoor is higher in THC than indoor.... just because it's grown in the sun.... then we can just agree to disagree.

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[markscastle]

I know a nice frosty bid make for good picture porn but I have to say I've seen hardly frosty buds kick butt before. It's not just how frost they are but also how strong the cannabaloids are as well. Yjat is mostly determinded by genetics.

 

[BioStimz]

Other methods I have read about to increase trichome density outdoors. From my reading; trichomes are a defense mechanism by the plant to protect it from elements.

This is partially true. To be specific, it's actually the CBD-content of Cannabis which significantly diminishes UV-induced degradation - however.... this does not necessarily convert to a higher THC-percentage.

The THC-content remains neutral at the expense of reduced CBD. Think of it like CBD is taking the hit from UV-radiation, so the plant can spare more THC.

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[brazel]

I literally have no clue what you are getting at.

Nanometers.

But this would apply to indoor grows.

Nonetheless.... supplemental UV-B increases trichome-density. Unequivocally.

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you said "nanometers." but then your next sentence says "but this would apply to indoor grows"

It seemed like you were saying nanometer only apply to indoor grows but I could have read that wrong

 

[BioStimz]

you said "nanometers." but then your next sentence says "but this would apply to indoor grows"

It seemed like you were saying nanometer only apply to indoor grows but I could have read that wrong

What I'm saying is that increasing trichome-density & THC-content via supplemental UV light only applies to indoor grows.

 

[brazel]

You're the only one who is confused.

Supplemental UVB increases trichome-density.

Okay what is supplemental?
Are you saying your lights don't generate UVB so you're adding uvb to your indoor grow?

If that's the case then you're not getting more trich density, you're just allowing the plant to grow closer to it's full potential. Are you following me?

 

[brazel]

Other methods I have read about to increase trichome density outdoors. From my reading; trichomes are a defense mechanism by the plant to protect it from elements. Minor stressors can increase trich production. Such as cold temps, dry air, and letting the soil dry out before harvest.

I’m sure there are other methods and please note, this is not from some scientific research just claims from other growers. I have all these stressors naturally in my climate...so I can’t say otherwise from 1st hand experience outdoors.

Please also keep in mind. I have seen ditch weed gleaming with trichs in KS...but smoke that and nothing but a nasty head buzz. So trichome density is 2nd to genetics. If I had lots of cash, space, and legally able to grow lots of plants, my method of increasing bud density and thrichome density would be to start a large scale breeding program, imho. I’m super glad others have done this leg work for me to enjoy great cannabis.

Let's say all these reasons work and 15 other reasons work technically you're not making the plant produce more you're allowing the plant to go deeper into its genetics to pull out what it needs to use to overcome whatever method of stress you give it does this make sense

 

[brazel]

What I'm saying is that increasing trichome-density & THC-content via supplemental UV light only applies to indoor grows.

Ok so I read that wrong but I hope you can see how easy that was to misinterpret.

 

[Underthesun]

If you think outdoor is higher in THC than indoor.... just because it's grown in the sun.... then we can just agree to disagree.

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That is not what I said. You are talking about indoor growing methods on an outdoor forum. You claim there are ways to make cannabis outperform its genetic makeup. I then simply challenged you to grow a high thc plant from bagseed, while a experienced grower gets to grow proven genetics outside...then we compare. If your bud is better than the proven genetics, you get a trophy and legendary status for turning bagseed into dank without breeding.

 

[markscastle]

How are you adding sugars?

As for hardness let the flowers go longer before you harvast?? More info needed! Are you saying let then go past what Thor ideal harvest time is?

Pick the tops and larger buds first and let the smaller ones harden 10- 14 days before picking them... I'd say that's just proper harvesting.

Dense buds do have a genetic role but your light plays a big part in this. You can tell how dense half way thru flower.

Fully mature will rely on what the grower desires so it's not correct to say they harvest too early unless their not skilled.

I agree lots don't properly cure but the best cure won't add density.

I add sugars to teas I make. Molassas, natural unbleached cane suger etc. I don't harvast bt the amount of weeks in flower, but by maturity of the flowers. I like the trecs to be 60% amber and 40% milky. No clear because they have no active cannabaloids. Also no black bevause they are over mature and cannabaloids are degraded. You should have a loop or scope to look at them to judge when the flowers are at peek.

 

[BioStimz]

1. You grow a high thc plant from bagseed,

2. An experienced grower gets to grow proven genetics outside...then we compare.

Allow me to clarify what I'm getting at:

1. We hypothetically both grow the same F7 strain from a well-known breeder. No varying phenotypes.

2. Outdoor farmer gets to grow the F7 in the most optimal growing conditions ever.

3. Indoor farmer gets to grow the F7 indoors with advanced methods.

4. Outdoor farmer is confident that the plant [reached] it's "full genetic potential".

5. Indoor grower is confident that the plant [surpassed] it's "genetic potential".

6. Both are analyzed in a lab.

7. Indoor-grown F7 undeniably produces more THC-content.

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[BioStimz]

Are you saying your lights don't generate UVB so you're adding uvb to your indoor grow?

Yes.

If that's the case then you're not getting more trich density, you're just allowing the plant to grow closer to it's full potential.

No. I get way more trichome-density from the same strains that I grow under regular conditions.

A plant grown outdoors reaches its "full genetic potential" naturally.

A plant grown under artificial-lighting can surpass this threshold, because everything can be manipulated.

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[brazel]

Yes.

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No. I get way more trichome-density from the same strains that I grow under regular conditions.

A plant grown outdoors reaches its "full genetic potential" naturally.

A plant grown under artificial-lighting can surpass this threshold, because everything can be manipulated.

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Okay I see what you're saying, the UV light will produce more trichrome then the light that doesn't have UV.

So by that then I increase trichs by not under or over feeding ;)

I look at a lil different, in my mind I can't increase until I hit it's full potential.

A plant grown under artificial-lighting can surpass this threshold, because everything can be manipulated?

So it grows past it's full potential?

 

[MW7945]

UV light is overhyped.

 

[hawkman]

here are two products that increase essential oils and terpenes' "Terpinator" and "Terpenez" both products work !!!!!!!!

 

[BioStimz]

I get way more trichome-density from the same strains WHEN COMPARED TO what I grow under regular conditions.

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[BioStimz]

UV light is overhyped.

it works

 

[MW7945]

it works

Significantly? Nah.