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I don't know if you were implying me, but I just wanted to say I didnt mean to give that impression at all. I am a fan of many different systems, and I think anyone getting over 2.5, heck even 2lb per tree is on a good thing, and given development and tweaking could match dd's rdwc buckets. Given that roots need oxygen and nutrients, there is no reason that a well setup aero wouldn't produce similar results, it just hasn't been laid out for everyone like DD has done for us:rauch08:
Ozzie
i wasnt targeting nobody, i was speaking in general from forum to forum, edge of the earth to the other.
you know what i mean... both spectrums too. 'tag' boys and the bucket boys...
but i didnt even see your post. only thing i would say is the misleading about gpw in vertical and plant count... yall do alot of work to achieve 1.0 gpw grows.
ill clarify: given the same environment, would aeroponic yield more?
The hydroponic technical people discuss how aeroponics is theoretically the best. They will usually make mention quite often of the term "DO." However, I see the school of hard knocks with people lke Heath and DDS and the likes pumping out huge plants with great GPW ratio, without using aero. And I fail to see aero people competing, so is it a matter of aero people simlpy not trying?
The tree farmer made an amazing thread about aero trees, although he mentioned he wasn't happy with the results, it was only his first time trying and he has much to learn before he can max out.
Basically what I am getting at is, maybe aeroponics doesn't actually live up to its reputation in real world scenarios.
your thesis is wrong and you are going at it wrong....
aero is not intended for yield. its dubbed the holy grail because of its speed. speed speed speed, not to mention efficiency.
i get roots to pop in 3-5 days.... cant do that with fully submerged cloners like dwc and the like.
like said before, all water sports will get you into the 'yield more' category. but that is still doesnt mean shit. if you cant grow, dont expect some 'magical' system to come and save yer ass.
with that said.... all hydro systems dialed in, shouldnt yield more or less than one another... should be on average.
Furthermore, Aeroponics is NOT about DO. You are getting yourself confused. In true type setups you rarely have any medium just roots in air and no roots sitting in water. There is nothing to dissolve the oxygen in, so therefore would not be DO.
This is the big difference. hydroponics struggle to dissolve the air, while aeroponics greatest strength is the explosiveness from it.
When you give the roots dry periods, it encourages root growth, explosive root growth. The dry periods is what harnesses the air/oxygen and allows it that way. In water sports mainly hydroponics and less aeroponics, we have to inject air into our water, or have water constantly moving.... or our plants would drown and suffocate. In that type of setup, our medium is water, so the gas (oxygen) has to dissolve, however, water has a saturation point and the warmer the water is, the faster it gets to saturation.
Heath gets great GPW cuz he knows what it takes with the feeding schedule, never burning, low EC to allow for more DO and just knows his all around shit.
he yielded like 2.4gpw from his 600 watter.... albeit a vertical enclosed contraption with mounds of plants that look like you gotta do a spiderpig move to get in, but still nice none the less and he doesnt grow big plants.
DD and the like gets yield cuz yall be vegging for so damn long and have vertical lighting. Whereas a SoG grower would look at yall and laugh cuz those 3-4 weeks yall vegging he is harvesting/putting in another crop to flower...
so idk its kinda a trade off and personal preference.
and of course aero lives up to real world experience, but of course you say that because you comes off as real world experience to you is 4# plants, no?
dont be so naive bro people have hard time hitting 4# outside.
its NOT the growing system! Its the amount of light and the skill of the grower!!!