SadBadGrower said:

My fiancée has mentioned this before to me about different crystals one day when we were walking through a flea market. One of the vendors there were selling all kinds of different rocks and different crystals too. I have seen a couple pictures of people doing it when I was reading to learn how to grow. Since I seen that you do it as well, I had to ask. Thanks for explaining it.

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oldskol4evr said:

im okay,was just ribbing above over the mars hydro thing,crazy,IM SICK AND TIRED OF YALL GOING OFF TOPIC but the op doesnt have a problem with it ,that stamnet made me feel like i need to walk up to a community board and see what threads i can watch today hahahah.
i could never be a mod,well i said same thing about be a boss,this is true when i was i was firm but fair,none my folks had bad attitudes on any shit i was running that day,but these mods,aint only this site either,every forum i visit seems like they dig the feel of being mama and daddy on report card day and let the shit go to there head,forgeting some of us were around when they were just members too,hahah oh well BACK ON TOPIC lmoa
got out and done some burning yesteray and a storm is moving you alls way,button down the hatches

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Moshmen said:

Inn and out same greasy stuff ! Lol in the south we have 5 guys, a little greasier- all will satisfy a case of the munchies ! Lmao

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SadBadGrower said:

My opinion and just an opinion....coco isn't really a good medium for a new grower. Just because there's more to it then say a soil medium. But yall got her back so all is well.

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oldskol4evr said:

explain why?
im thinking a new boot needs to know how to use meters ,just basic meters ph tds
they have to know how to control what goes in and out
coco makes them figure out how to do that simply by if they screw up it dont take 3 days to see it,then what the killer for new folks,OVERWATERING right,only way to over water in coco is if plant is locked out,or it is a new seedling not eating as of yet.
coco also lets them see all there effort is right in front of there face by growth ,it also shows them how much work is really involved into bringing real product numbers out of there tent if they tweek and master the media.
once they have figured it out maybe a step to hydro
soil is this mans lazy way,if you have your soil ideal ya you can dump 8 and 9.0 ph water in there and not pay any mind to the ec count you put in there,but you better be experienced gardener too,soil can buffer radiation over years,but while it does that and the difrence of you doing it ,is your body and lungs are smoking the shit with out all the filtering the soil provides,so it just stupid to tall someone oh dont worry about ph and tds your feed going into soil it buffers it,hell that like handing folk fist full of pills saying oh dont worry wont hurt ya the body adjust,same thing.
so soil has become conflicting also for the new boot,the days of plant a seed and pamper it is gone,it all about competetion of yeild and beauty and who owns what or more,just who's got the biggest dick,thats what it turned into.
once she gets the coco down,then soil will be a brezze and in turn can maybe turn a flood table one side the house and have soil plants on the other that grow slower and imo taste so much better,
but there again comes down to experience of getting all the nutes out for a harvest,so like i said on another thread the other day,there is no such thing as this or that media would be better for a newbie,all have to be learned and the student has to pass the grade on which or all they try all open ears will learn something new

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Moshmen said:

Any medium can be difficult, my opinion that each person finds the style that fits their needs and personality.

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khalt03 said:

I'm trying to eat nourishing foods, Sir. Hahaha!

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SadBadGrower said:

Like I said....just my opinion. The only reason I said soil for a new grower is because there's less to learn then a coco or hydro grow. MY opinion too. Once you learn how the plant grows etc then switch to whatever floats your boat. I know it's different for everyone also.

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basscaptain said:

Kim ???
Did you say someone is watching this From the State here in TN, or did I miss read that ?????

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khalt03 said:

I agree that for many, easier is better initially. It's the same concept I used on the ambulance with greenhorns. We just have to adapt to styles as teachers, which comes with maturity (notice I didn't say age). For me in a teaching role, it was very humbling to realize I sucked at getting my message across. I will explain:

My partner and I were called to assist with a code patient in a nursing home. Showed up, the greenhorn was flipping out and not being useful AT ALL, so I hip checked her out of the way. Afterwards, I told her that I didn't think she was cut out for our line of work (it does take a special person). She cried and explained that she didn't feel she was ever given an opportunity to actually learn in the heat of the moment. I realized I was an asshole because she was right. Screaming and shouting at someone isn't conducive to learning. My former vocation required quick actions on a moments notice at times (Most of the time it was simply hand holding). I realized I was becoming like everyone else and just screaming at my students to know what to do. While someone was dying. Nothing like a little pressure. So, I had to apologize and learn a different way to teach. It was humbling and she actually learned how to save someone. She didn't last in the field, so my instinct was right, but at least I taught her something.

Everyone learns differently. For myself, I prefer the most difficult way.

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basscaptain said:

he is just saying if Soil is SO easy....
it would make more since to start there....
Learn how a plant will grow and how to grow it as easy as poss...

Before adding all the things that go with coco.....

If your in soil and can't read a plant and what is going on and the feed... think these alot more problem you can have with a plant YOU have to Feed Everyday with nothing behind you.... That's all


and again this is just my 2 cents worth....

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SadBadGrower said:

They say Bill Gates gave his hardest jobs to his laziest workers because they would find the easiest way to do it. I only said soil because it's probably the easiest between coco and hydro. This way the grower can learn how the plant grows and develops, while not having to worry about to much else because the ease of using soil...which then can be applied for future grows. That's why I said it was just my opinion. Everyone learns differently. I learn from doing it. I can read a million books and I still wouldn't know what to do unless I do it myself.

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khalt03 said:

I agree. You and I seem to learn in a similar fashion.

To be honest, I'm afraid to grow in soil. The reason why is because I don't know where the soil comes from, is it contaminated? What about heavy metals & pesticides? The coco I'm using drew me in because it's pH neutral and sterilized for the most part. Though, I sterilize it myself, too.

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SadBadGrower said:

I'd say stick with what you're doing. You are doing a great job so far. And the ones following along have you in great hands.

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khalt03 said:

Must be all the pressure I'm feeling in my joints today. I appreciate you!

My hubs says the mods are the same no matter what forum is where. ;)

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khalt03 said:

You should be teaching classes. Not many who understand the importance of old and new, and also leave themselves open to learning newer, more efficient ways. Unfortunately, we have pushed our young people to want bigger, faster, better and right now, damn it. Now, we know we have to lead by a better example and teach them it's not all about the hustle all the time. We made a mistake putting ourselves and our young people on speed pills and sleeping pills. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and having the capability to see both sides. ☮🕊

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khalt03 said:

I agree that for many, easier is better initially. It's the same concept I used on the ambulance with greenhorns. We just have to adapt to styles as teachers, which comes with maturity (notice I didn't say age). For me in a teaching role, it was very humbling to realize I sucked at getting my message across. I will explain:

My partner and I were called to assist with a code patient in a nursing home. Showed up, the greenhorn was flipping out and not being useful AT ALL, so I hip checked her out of the way. Afterwards, I told her that I didn't think she was cut out for our line of work (it does take a special person). She cried and explained that she didn't feel she was ever given an opportunity to actually learn in the heat of the moment. I realized I was an asshole because she was right. Screaming and shouting at someone isn't conducive to learning. My former vocation required quick actions on a moments notice at times (Most of the time it was simply hand holding). I realized I was becoming like everyone else and just screaming at my students to know what to do. While someone was dying. Nothing like a little pressure. So, I had to apologize and learn a different way to teach. It was humbling and she actually learned how to save someone. She didn't last in the field, so my instinct was right, but at least I taught her something.

Everyone learns differently. For myself, I prefer the most difficult way.

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