Kuwl's AutoPot Grow - Deja Vu

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kuwl said:
This one was from a previous grow using the AP system.
It was the tallest plant with the most buds.
It was a 3.9 gal pot and the others were in 3 gal pots.
I got a lil over 7 oz from that plant all other plants got half that amt.
I did not get full potential from it tho as I was screwing around with the light and envirment to much.

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That's a good pic as a reminder to keep them short...bushy but short.....it looks like it can get out of hand if not....kept short....lol
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5.8 give or take a tenth
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Another day another issue ordering the pots. I opened my email this am and I've 3-4 from the indoor Farmer and 2 from my bank fraud squad.....I put a j in place of a k in my postal address.....lol......Credit card wouldn't go through and bells started ringing...lol......fixed but with just a minor address typo the fraud squad gets involved...no cops at the door....yet...the day is still early....
 
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That's a good pic as a reminder to keep them short...bushy but short.....it looks like it can get out of hand if not....kept short....lol

Another day another issue ordering the pots. I opened my email this am and I've 3-4 from the indoor Farmer and 2 from my bank fraud squad.....I put a j in place of a k in my postal address.....lol......Credit card wouldn't go through and bells started ringing...lol......fixed but with just a minor address typo the fraud squad gets involved...no cops at the door....yet...the day is still early....
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yep I tried but that thing got big anyway.
That's kinda why I am using the 2.2 g pots instead of the 3.9 g pots
in my lil 4x4 with the peaked roof, I don't get the full hieght, only in the center.
52" from the tent floor to the light so a lot of lst.
 
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kuwl said:
yep I tried but that thing got big anyway.
That's kinda why I am using the 2.2 g pots instead of the 3.9 g pots
in my lil 4x4 with the peaked roof, I don't get the full hieght, only in the center.
52" from the tent floor to the light so a lot of lst.
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Well shit then, I'm in a bit of a crunch with 4 pots coming. I had a brain storm of trying to put them in my 3x3 but I have the 15L..4 gal pots coming and you're saying yours got too big too fast for your 4x4? in smaller pots? I thought if I can squeeze them in and use 1 SE3000 I could have a nice spread of plants.... so ya I see even if I can get them in I'd be better off with Auto's in them......hmmm I just got a few of those to......thanks to unohoo.....lol
 
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Got seeds in the napkins soaking and hopin' they do ok.
I just got my order of Perlite and Coco-Coir to mix in.
Not much cause I am using the same soil which was only 2 1/2 wks in the pots.
So not worried much about any salt problems.
I will be adding some fresh soil and Perlite even tho it has perlite in the mix.
I want to make sure it's as fluffy as possible for them roots to have an easy time.
I was going to put the sprouts in mini pots but changed my mind and will use solo's after all.
Everything is ready to go!

I will be going from solo's to the main pot as soon as they look healthy enough.
Going to skip the 1 gal transfere.
Then I will water them normal (on top) for a few days (5-7?) till the roots take hold.
Then turn on the res tank with only plain 5.8 PH water.

I brought propagation lids made for the AP's 2 yrs ago but never used em.
So nows the time, I guess, to try them out.
They are supposed to keep the moisture in same as a plastic bottle.
I'm a sucker for new fangled stuff lol.
Until they out grow them it should give me some relief from a dry winter cellar.

Tied up my water hose connections with twisty ties just tight enough to have that extra hold.
1st thing to remember when removing pots from the base is to turn off the valve at the res tank. (I forgot 2x lol)
If you don't the base fills with water when you remove the pot, then, when you put the pot back it overflows and is a mess.
I put one turn off/on valve 6" from the res base.
I also put one inside the tent as my res tank is outside the tent and on a crate (gravity feed works better or I am paranoid)
I poke a very small hole in the bottom of the tent to stick the feeder hose thru.
So if I see a leak I can turn off the valve to shut water supply off and find out where that dam leak is.

I also brought the air pump with 4 outlets, one for each pot.
I turn this on high with a timer set for 4-6hrs at noon.

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Air pump
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Propagater Lids
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I had to show ya's how these look with the UV lights on lol Don't peek in there or a ALiens face hugger will get ya!
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Whats your soil mix just coco coir and perlite or promix coco coir and perlite.
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Mother Earth Groundswell cause I got it on sale I wish I could get Pro Mix but it's not available here.
I did see some in Buffalo for $20 a mini bail but can't get there and shipping is ridiculous.
I mix coco coir into the ME and also will mix in some course perlite, it has perlite in it but I put in more.
 
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Well shit then, I'm in a bit of a crunch with 4 pots coming. I had a brain storm of trying to put them in my 3x3 but I have the 15L..4 gal pots coming and you're saying yours got too big too fast for your 4x4? in smaller pots? I thought if I can squeeze them in and use 1 SE3000 I could have a nice spread of plants.... so ya I see even if I can get them in I'd be better off with Auto's in them......hmmm I just got a few of those to......thanks to unohoo.....lol
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I did a bad job of LST on that plant and waited to long so stems were hard.
If you do it right it will be ok. That plant was in the back corner and very hard to get to.
Some of the others were lst'ed and did great.
 
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Waiting for seeds to germinate is a pain and gives me anxiety.
Stress and more stress.
2 popped and had nice legs this morning Sour Diesel and Fruity OG
I put them in soil gently, carefully and with great caution lol as these seeds
are a gift and cannot be replaced easily lol.
But their not the two I wanted to hatch darn but the others did germ! Yaaeee!
But and there are lots of buts haha only a 16th of a tail is showing so far
not enough to take a chance and plant.
The QC Blue had a 16th showing earlier but now this afternoon has about 1/4 in showing.
Put it back and hoping by tonight it will be long enough for me to chance it and put in dirt.
The other one, Do Si Do is still short and only 16th of tail showing, holding my breath that they make it.
 
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I put the last 2 seeds that germed in the dirt.
QC Blue had about a half an inch and Do Si Do was at a 16th still
Hopefull all will do well.
I mixed up some dirt to put in the pots to get them ready.
I think I was about right on the percentage.
10 or 15% Coco Coir is what I put in probably closer to 10%
I just break off a bunch and water it down after it absorbs all the water
I mix it up and put it in the dirt along with sveral handfuls of Perlite.
I had enough to fill the 4 2.2 gal. pots so about that amount of dirt. :)
Tomorrow should tell the tail if those seeds pop.
 
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Success! 😎
Checked on the seeds and they sprouted.
Well, 3 did for sure Sour Desiel, Fruity OG and QC Blue.
QC Blue looks a little like a mushroom and Do Si Do has some life in it.
I see some bit of green barely showing but it's there so I'll give it time to pop up.
That was the biggest problem I always have is germing and sprouting them.
Now that's it's done I can breath.
Pots are all set up with the soil mix.
I put a cup, same size as I will use in transfereing the veg'ed plants.
Makes it easier to put them in without digging a random hole.

I use this tub for mixing the dirt, coco coir and perlite
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I will be putting them in the pots directly from the solo cups when they get big enough. Those cups are spacers.
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The sprouts on the right are practice ones, 4 unknown in one cup an 2 of 4 that sprouted,
I think they were Durban Poison and Wedding Cake but 2 didn't germ and mixed up, so whatever
they are, they are just backups, incase stuff didn't work out..
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Now I have reference to when, what day, these girls sprouted.
 
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kuwl said:
Success! 😎
Checked on the seeds and they sprouted.
Well, 3 did for sure Sour Desiel, Fruity OG and QC Blue.
QC Blue looks a little like a mushroom and Do Si Do has some life in it.
I see some bit of green barely showing but it's there so I'll give it time to pop up.
That was the biggest problem I always have is germing and sprouting them.
Now that's it's done I can breath.
Pots are all set up with the soil mix.
I put a cup, same size as I will use in transfereing the veg'ed plants.
Makes it easier to put them in without digging a random hole.

I use this tub for mixing the dirt, coco coir and perlite
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I will be putting them in the pots directly from the solo cups when they get big enough. Those cups are spacers.
View attachment 1327101
The sprouts on the right are practice ones, 4 unknown in one cup an 2 of 4 that sprouted,
I think they were Durban Poison and Wedding Cake but 2 didn't germ and mixed up, so whatever
they are, they are just backups, incase stuff didn't work out..
View attachment 1327102
View attachment 1327103
Now I have reference to when, what day, these girls sprouted.
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Do you feed liquid nutes
kuwl said:
Success! 😎
Checked on the seeds and they sprouted.
Well, 3 did for sure Sour Desiel, Fruity OG and QC Blue.
QC Blue looks a little like a mushroom and Do Si Do has some life in it.
I see some bit of green barely showing but it's there so I'll give it time to pop up.
That was the biggest problem I always have is germing and sprouting them.
Now that's it's done I can breath.
Pots are all set up with the soil mix.
I put a cup, same size as I will use in transfereing the veg'ed plants.
Makes it easier to put them in without digging a random hole.

I use this tub for mixing the dirt, coco coir and perlite
View attachment 1327100
I will be putting them in the pots directly from the solo cups when they get big enough. Those cups are spacers.
View attachment 1327101
The sprouts on the right are practice ones, 4 unknown in one cup an 2 of 4 that sprouted,
I think they were Durban Poison and Wedding Cake but 2 didn't germ and mixed up, so whatever
they are, they are just backups, incase stuff didn't work out..
View attachment 1327102
View attachment 1327103
Now I have reference to when, what day, these girls sprouted.
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Hey, Do you use liquid nutes in your reservoir? I don't want to use a new line of products but I wondering on a feed water cycle with nutrients do you feed always or do you swap out water for feed weekly? and what percentages or measurements of nute's do you use? for me in my soil now in veg I'm 5/5/5 /1/ ml gallon 5ml = 1tsp....in flower 5/5/10/1.... Micro/Grow/Bloom/ Floralicious.
Do you use the same measures in the reservoir.
 
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Do you feed liquid nutes

Hey, Do you use liquid nutes in your reservoir? I don't want to use a new line of products but I wondering on a feed water cycle with nutrients do you feed always or do you swap out water for feed weekly? and what percentages or measurements of nute's do you use? for me in my soil now in veg I'm 5/5/5 /1/ ml gallon 5ml = 1tsp....in flower 5/5/10/1.... Micro/Grow/Bloom/ Floralicious.
Do you use the same measures in the reservoir.
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Yes Liquid Dyna Gro
After they get big enough to put in the pots, I will take the pots out of the base and put a pan under the pot to top feed for a few days.
Say about 5-10 days till roots get a chance to acclimate.
Then I will only put fresh PH'ed water in the res tank.
When they get used to that and need some food I use Dyna-Gro products to feed them nutes.
It's a clean looking liquid nute mix.
You can use anything that is clean looking and won't gum up the valves.
If you use powder base nutes just make sure it's disolved into the water before adding to the res.
No dirty stuff like Fish fert or seaweed fert. I don't even put in Re-Charge (I might this time).

I feed by using a 2 gal bucket and use my chart going into veg and flower.
But the chart is for 1 gal mixes and so actually it's half.
It's a pain to fill the 12 gal res 2 gals at a time but that's what I do.
I leave some room in the res tank if I make a mistake I can add PH water to knock down the PPM.
Also I measure PPM and PH daily in the res tank and add when necessary.
If the PPM is high in the res tank I will add PH water till it drops.
If it's low I will add more Foilage Pro in veg or Bloom if it's in flower right in the tank and remeasure till it's right.
If the tank is low and PPM/PH is off I will adjust my bucket to correct it.
If the PH is low/high I add PH up/down directly to the tank
I don't use KLN
I do cut the Mag Pro down to half of what it says as I don't think the plant needs that much but what do I know haha.
I only got past 2nd wk of flower last time but they were growing very healthy with no problems at all.

I think we are feeding pretty much the same.
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This all started when I got sucked into watching DB's grow.
I wanted to do the same but the DWC type grow takes too much room for me.
The drainage and the feeding timer and waste run off was a problem too.
And that is when I came accross the Auto-Pot method.
Best part is no run off to mess with.
No feeding timers to mess with either.
This is my 2nd grow with them and my first using only 4 pots and one system.
The last time I had 7 pots in the tent and it was crowded and hard to get around.
I am going to look back at one of my previous grows to see
if I had any problems in the later part of the grow.
How to fix things when in mid to late flower would be helpful.

So if anyone else has a better way or different way to do these please chime in.
Any help or tips would be appreciated 😁
 
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kuwl said:
This all started when I got sucked into watching DB's grow.
I wanted to do the same but the DWC type grow takes too much room for me.
The drainage and the feeding timer and waste run off was a problem too.
And that is when I came accross the Auto-Pot method.
Best part is no run off to mess with.
No feeding timers to mess with either.
This is my 2nd grow with them and my first using only 4 pots and one system.
The last time I had 7 pots in the tent and it was crowded and hard to get around.
I am going to look back at one of my previous grows to see
if I had any problems in the later part of the grow.
How to fix things when in mid to late flower would be helpful.

So if anyone else has a better way or different way to do these please chime in.
Any help or tips would be appreciated 😁
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I think it was page 47 Rolling Along that I seen a few problems.
Steering was one of them, extending the light time a couple of hours.
The other was using Re-Charge and plugging up a valve that cause some flooding.
Maybe I didn't mix it up completly idk.
I think I also did some other steering methods that did not help.
Not too much problems that I seen but enough to avoid and keep it simple this time.
I believe I was trying to hard and using too many methods.
"Too many cooks in the kitchen" and they were all in my head. 😜
 
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Wake up Do Si Do 😵‍💫
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Join the party! 🎉
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Day 2 and they all look healthy
Removing domes today except Do Si Do :(
 
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Looking at some low priced hydroponic systems for some clones I might make from these plants I am growing.
Ya could make one but I am not good at it.
This one is pretty cheap at $31.
Getting ahead of myself as usual.

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