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Where do you see it going? It has hit a bigger presence nowadays and has been on the move and can't continue with the status quo of mmj, imo
Gotta love speculation.
Definitely.
When I first got into this thread my entire purpose was to speculate for the sake of possibly causing some folks to think about the future. I thought I was pretty clear that its all speculation.
No one can really say for sure what will happen, but we can make some pretty educated guesses.
If I was forced to make a bet one way or the other today, I'd invest in tobacco companies and that's all I really meant to say. The most likely case to my mind is that we'll see a synthesis of what all the folks here have said.
Tobacco companies will get in on it, a good portion of "basement" growers will shut down, those that remain will do so in niche markets, and hell even pharma companies might take a slice of the pie.
None of those are guarantees, but sense tells us that all of them are possible. I suppose my main concern was that people don't get caught holding the bag by assuming that nothing is going to change. The only thing which I can guarantee is that change is coming, be it positive or negative the victor is going to be the person who hedges the best bets--that's really why I'd go with big tobacco if forced, because they have a proven track record in this space and that the best indicator as far as I'm concerned, but the sky is the limit in terms of possibilities.
"When I first got into this thread my entire purpose was to speculate for the sake of possibly causing some folks to think about the future. I thought I was pretty clear that its all speculation.
That and gun companies before the next election cycle :)I'd invest in tobacco companies and that's all I really meant to say. The most likely case to my mind is that we'll see a synthesis of what all the folks here have said.
Seeing lots of farmers on the precipice of a decision to go big or go home, just to make a fraction of what they used to, whether they know it or not yet.Tobacco companies will get in on it, a good portion of "basement" growers will shut down, those that remain will do so in niche markets, and hell even pharma companies might take a slice of the pie.
None of those are guarantees, but sense tells us that all of them are possible. I suppose my main concern was that people don't get caught holding the bag by assuming that nothing is going to change. ...that's really why I'd go with big tobacco if forced, because they have a proven track record in this space and that the best indicator as far as I'm concerned....
You mean DE-SCHEDULING?when do you see them federally legalizing mj?
If they decide to have the FDA regulate it then they can add more jobs to that sector and really fuck things up. Testing requirements via years of lab analysis and trials before the patented strain can be sold through an actual pharmacy (supplied of course by merck, pfizer, etc). It would take way too much money and resources for anyone but a billion dollar industry to keep up.
Black market will be here for a while. No doubt about that.
I don't think you'll see this for a fairly simple reason:
If we get to the point of federal legalization I think that it's going to be done on the basis of "Alright let's cut the shit, this stuff isn't as harmful as we've been making it out to be."
There is an unspoken understanding across the world, and in political circles as well, that MJ was originally criminalized for the sake of money and not actual concern over it's damaging effect on citizenry. There is, likewise, an understanding that it really does inhabit a space (as a commodity) which is similar to alcohol. Not exactly good for you, but not anything to write home about either.
Furthermore there is evidence of its husbandry dating back thousands of years. I just don't see where the FDA is going to get into some extremely intense regulatory role here. What I expect will happen is you will definitely see some bureaucratic regulation that takes place but it won't be the kind that keep strains out--it will be the kind that keeps the little guy out.
Even as a liberal I understand that probably the worst thing about government is that it exists in these "corporate spaces" to drive the little guy out. I saw a great example of this while working as a landscaper. My boss had taken to delivering firewood in the winter time (since no one needs their grass cut, lol) and he had been seasoning his own wood on our lot where we kept all of our machinery. Come to find out there's about 9 kadrillion regulations that have to be followed in order to do that legally (mostly having to do with fire hazards). To comply was prohibitively expensive with a capital P, so much so that it drove him out of the business (or it would if he followed the regulations which he does not).
So I would expect to see this type of regulation coming down from above rather than something that's actually targeting the plant itself. Ultimately the little guy suffers and those who can cover the overhead do alright. Really it is this type of thing that drives forward the process of a market becoming perfectly competitive (that I brought up earlier). When there are barriers to entry that everyone has to pay homage to it levels the playing field--but it also installs a glass floor for what it takes to be a part of the business.
Ultimately its the consumer who controls whether or not a glass ceiling comes into play. If I had my guess I'd say they will, but that's what 90% of this argument has been about and its really anyone's game. I think most of us know the price floor will raise over time (there is already one there by way of equipment, water costs, nutrients, etc). As the floor/ceiling meet each other and the margin shrinks that's where the basement grower will find difficulty. Without sufficient scale one misstep puts them out of business.
MJ was originally criminalized because of racism towards both Mexicans and Blacks, not money.
There is too many growers both in California and Colorado. If you are getting 2200 or less for indoor, you should just take the hint that you can't produce quality and truly compete with the markets and just get out of the biz.
Five years ago you could have said the same thing except 3800 would have been a realistic number. I've gotten 4600 before, but not a chance in hell now. Good industrious growers can grind out a decent living and still only charge 1500. It all depends on who is willing to do the extra work and play a little less.There is too many growers both in California and Colorado. If you are getting 2200 or less for indoor, you should just take the hint that you can't produce quality and truly compete with the markets and just get out of the biz.
Check this bs out.
Planning on importing from mexico....way to go
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