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I can tell you I won't be getting a FAGnum LED, last week I sent them an email asking about the sale and if it was do to any problems with the unit and Monday the 13th I received this email:
if you order now you can save $200 and get a mag+ for a mere $999 and the unit will likely ship by this friday. If you wait until tomorrow the price is going back up to $1200 and the unit will still be shipping likely on Friday. Thanks :)
And today Friday the 17th, I see that the unit is still on sale WTF was he just trying to get extra dough from people and BS them into waiting? So I'm not going to get any RIP off artist BS LED, it may work but I can't deal with a company so eager for money they'll lie to the consumer just to get a buck.
you might also be just as eager as they are to use it so maybe you should calm down they first off down want to go out of bizz and that is easy in this time and age. so chill. will yah those other leds are 3x the price "that work"
As anybody actually pulled real big normal HPS HID buds from one of these LEDs?
I mean for instance the sun is really strong and is warm if you stand in its rays, very hard to imagine a light source indoors that doesn't provide heat that would rival the HID or sunlight.
The heat coming off the HID and sun are radiant energy, the LED if you stand under it, do you feel any energy?? I'm just saying if it's super cool and runs cool like a flouro, then you prolly aren't getting the intensity you need to grow big old nugs, popcorn sure but I can grow popcorn with flouros and they are way cheaper than these fancy LED's.
And after this many unsuccessful LED grows, I'm convinced they don't stand a chance...maybe some day, but not today!
p.s. I just remembered what these lights are for, LITE BRITE!
I wonder if these work for clones??
Good for him :) I have plenty of gay friends and call them fags all the time but it doesn't negate the fact that the mag is still on sale
Kessil is a legit company and I'm happy with what I have was just looking to and a bit more spectrum
I sorry if I offended you
I have seen smoked and grown led herb equavilant to hps herb, my current grow is both led and hps, and in the led side it's noticeably much heavier and danker then the hps side, Also I would like to say I've seen smoked and grown wack popcorn herb, but live and learn, now
I'm having great success, I'll take led herb over any hps herb anyday
And yes u feel energy from the led if u put ur hand under it, and don't get it twisted LEDs due produce heat, can't hide from that do climate control is a most
Calling kessil a legit company is a stretch... what do they charge again, 800 dollars for a 15 watt light that covers 1 square foot? Yeah, that'll get you some fat nugs for sure. Plus it NEEDS the light mover to keep it cool or it won't get full output. It's completely wrong minded and the pricing is predatory but if they can convince some suckers to buy it great for them.
LED grown bud really "should" be more "dank" than say HPS grown, because standard HPS have next to no output in the blue spectrum, which is what controls flavenoid and terpene production and all that good stuff. Not to mention that UvB type response that triggers the plant into producing copious amounts of trichomes to protect itself from intense Uv light.
Though it's unlikely you'll get the biggest buds and you sure won't get any economically. Most of the commercial lights are complete garbage, and people make the mistake of trying to use them like an overhead HID replacement, raising it up higher in order to increase coverage area by that ever critical 6 inches, while reducing their irradiance dramatically.
Right now you can get a lot more high quality light for growing for a lot less money with something like CMH.
As for the sun/HPS putting off heat--most of this is energy not used by plants--in fact the plants expend a good amount of energy trying to protect themselves from those particular rays.
As was said, in theory LED should outperform HPS--one day it's fairly assured that it will (or that something else with little/no heat output will do the same).
The heat really is wasted energy for the most part (some of it IS used, in the interest of being complete--but it's a really small amount and under a process we don't fully understand, especially in cannabis).
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