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I'm not a heavy smoker by any means but my GF will go through a pack of J's in a day!!right on, I only blaze off my grow, mostly just to taste what I'm giving away. I'm more addicted to growing it than smoking it, for now anyways.
Transplanted from 5L to 25L December 4th. So a month ago exactly. She was left vegging in the 5L as the big tent was full, since October. These soft pots are great but there could be a root issue I missed. She grew quickly after the transplant but with the leaf discolouration.Your root bound causing a lot more problems. things can look like lock out when the root ball is so dense that it rejects water allowing for pockets of hydrophobic soils to develop.
About 5Gal I think. It’s as large as I ever go, never had an issue. 4 of these pots is the most I do in my 3x3. I’m trying to go organic on this grow using this plant as the tester. Not planning to do more defoliation until she’s better. Less stress. Then defoliate and flip.25L? Thats a 6 gal pot for over 30 days? i would totally slap that baby into a 25GAL pot defoliate everything not getting light and hit them with Grow Big every second watering.
Not sure what you mean? Plant was watered only when meter said it was less than half way. Try to let pot dry out a few days before next watering.Whats up with the watering? Looks like a giant mound of dirt around the stem with a shallow dish that has....drip ring?
How much water how often?
How much food how often?
Yes. 90% of the time I bury the stem a little deeper every transplant. Never had an issue. No rot or smell. Top 3” never damp enough. Can’t even get a PH reading unless I just watered that minute.Did you by chance bury the plants stem deeper than the original soil line or rockwool/plug level? If you did, could quite possibly be stem rot and you need to handle asap!
if your using bottled nutes then you probably want to flush at some point to get rid of some of that salt build up. In an organic grow you would just use the dry amendments and that's it. I still struggle with this personally and have yet to do a dry amendments only grow. I get anxious about not having some sort of bottle around. This next grow will be my most organic grow to date, dry amendments ONLY. I have a little liquid kelp around and will have to do some deep research if this is considered "Organic" or not. The idea behind flushing is to get the salt out of your soil, it builds up on every feed. With organic dry amendments, no salts, no salt build up, no need to flush. Synthetic growing is a total different mindset than one would approach it organically. One feeds the plant directly (synthetic), the other feeds the soil (organic). You try both methods on a grow...you start chasing your tail at some point. And both have different optimum soil pH ranges, hence the reason to choose which way your going with your grow. Organics range is 6-7 and some say a little above 6.5 is idea as the microbiology flourishes there, bottled nutes range is about what, 5-6 pH ... so there's a 100fold difference there..Transplanted from 5L to 25L December 4th. So a month ago exactly. She was left vegging in the 5L as the big tent was full, since October. These soft pots are great but there could be a root issue I missed. She grew quickly after the transplant but with the leaf discolouration.
About 5Gal I think. It’s as large as I ever go, never had an issue. 4 of these pots is the most I do in my 3x3. I’m trying to go organic on this grow using this plant as the tester. Not planning to do more defoliation until she’s better. Less stress. Then defoliate and flip.
Not sure what you mean? Plant was watered only when meter said it was less than half way. Try to let pot dry out a few days before next watering.
Usually it’s about 3L of water every 3 days I guess, for a plant this size. Depending on time of year and size of plant.
This soil mix is light and airy. Any water in the pot moves the earth to the outside. I don’t water at the stem so when dry I use fingers to gently put soil back and start all over.
Yes. 90% of the time I bury the stem a little deeper every transplant. Never had an issue. No rot or smell. Top 3” never damp enough. Can’t even get a PH reading unless I just watered that minute.
After flush I could see roots on top and no rot. I wait a week before watering after a flush unless it’s summer and plant needs more. Pot still has weight after 4 days.
Left space for new soil & dry nutes on top of pot. Only added 1cm of mixed soil/nutes since flush. Again, waiting a week to see how things are after flush.
plants dont tend to go much rootbound wiht fabric pots as they air pruneTransplanted from 5L to 25L December 4th. So a month ago exactly. She was left vegging in the 5L as the big tent was full, since October. These soft pots are great but there could be a root issue I missed. She grew quickly after the transplant but with the leaf discolouration.
About 5Gal I think. It’s as large as I ever go, never had an issue. 4 of these pots is the most I do in my 3x3. I’m trying to go organic on this grow using this plant as the tester. Not planning to do more defoliation until she’s better. Less stress. Then defoliate and flip.
Not sure what you mean? Plant was watered only when meter said it was less than half way. Try to let pot dry out a few days before next watering.
Usually it’s about 3L of water every 3 days I guess, for a plant this size. Depending on time of year and size of plant.
This soil mix is light and airy. Any water in the pot moves the earth to the outside. I don’t water at the stem so when dry I use fingers to gently put soil back and start all over.
Yes. 90% of the time I bury the stem a little deeper every transplant. Never had an issue. No rot or smell. Top 3” never damp enough. Can’t even get a PH reading unless I just watered that minute.
After flush I could see roots on top and no rot. I wait a week before watering after a flush unless it’s summer and plant needs more. Pot still has weight after 4 days.
Left space for new soil & dry nutes on top of pot. Only added 1cm of mixed soil/nutes since flush. Again, waiting a week to see how things are after flush.
Agreed. I peel the old pots off and reuse them after a cleaning. Never seen a root issue, so far.plants dont tend to go much rootbound wiht fabric pots as they air prune
are you using organic dry soil amendments/fertilizer?Agreed. I peel the old pots off and reuse them after a cleaning. Never seen a root issue, so far.
Also noticed and then researched a little on roots growing from stem at soil line. Seems that cannabis will grow roots from the stem if it gets buried. To save a little grow space I plant it lower in the pots and top with dry nutes & soil as needed. Only started doing this last grow but seems to work fine.
This is what I get from Home Depot, seems legit.store bought worm is a joke
Looks like some gold leaf starts there in background.This is what I get from Home Depot, seems legit. View attachment 1317420
And I agree the pot size can/will play a huge part in a grow when it comes to organic, the bigger the pot the bigger the battery. I started with 5 gallon pots and slowly gone up to 10 and 15 gallon pots, they do get heavy. I forgot what the OP said his pot sizes are. Think he said 7? That's not to bad, compared to a 3 gallon pot. Some would say 15 is the minimum for organic grows to flourish. I've seen a few growers dig their potted cuttings/seedlings not so deep when transplanting to their final pots. They're sticking up an inch or two above the soil line. They claim this helps with areas that rain a lot (outdoor growing) so I can only imagine what it could do for indoor growers, I pop my seeds in them sponge seed starter pods and drop them in soil with a little lift above the soil line. , it's been working out.
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Also I tried the foxfarm ocean forest soil .just tried it in a few pots ,hope it does well.has alot of the bat crap and fish stuff worm casting and what not.Looks like some gold leaf starts there in background.
It runs a little hot so I mix it 50/50 with Happy Frog. You could almost do a full run just with that soil, it's very rich.Also I tried the foxfarm ocean forest soil .just tried it in a few pots ,hope it does well.has alot of the bat crap and fish stuff worm casting and what not.
Anyone ever use it?
I'm a green horn and doin some experiments ro see what's what.
White Widow, and couple Kush strains. I'm on 4 different forums right now..lol, gonna have to slow down and read this one from the beginning before I reply again.Looks like some gold leaf starts there in background.
@Week4Bytch
Soil grow keeping organic where I can.
Update 3:
Clones still look great no leaf issues. Topped each of their pots with mixed soil and gave a light mist followed with worm cast foliar spray. Original watering should last all week.
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Main plant seems about the same but slower growth. New leaves still seem lighter and I noticed in two places that if I lifted a leaf off a leaf the bottom leaf was darker where covered.
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This is a 25’ish liter soft pot filled with 20L soil mix, worm castings & Sunshine 4.
About 1 cm of mixed top soil added after flush. Soil was a hair over 6PH. No water added since flush on Dec 31.
Soil is moist at 3” deep. Pot still has weight. Trying not to spray or foliar her.
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So going forward I’m still not 100% sure what set her off. Onset of lockout, to close to light, nute & ph issue? I think a little bit of leaf spot burns came from the lights coming on after a foliar spray done just before the flush. As it only seems to be some leaves near the top. Not latest growth. Some claw from all the water and maybe a little wind burn.
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Friday I think I can water with just ph adjusted water on the topped soil. After that I was going to see if I can find the ingredients local at my stores to make “The Recipe”. I can find Grotek Gro-Silic for $100 but no idea where I can get Mr Fulvic. I don’t internet shop.
I could just go back to Fox Farm nutes and see if that helps, half strength, but I’d like to do better.
Money went into hardware this grow so cash is tight but I have the following on had;
Sunshine soil
Gaia worm castings
Gaia green sand
Jobes organic 4-4-4 small pellets
Fox farm grow big
Fox farm tiger bloom
GH PH Up
GH PH Down phosphoric acid
Bottled water - typical grocery store
24+ Hour old tap water PH usually 7-7.4
Anything else I’ll need to run out and get.
Glass digital PH meter arrives in mid February. No ppm meter either.
Next step suggestion?
50 50 with happy frog and use it with the whole run?almostIt runs a little hot so I mix it 50/50 with Happy Frog. You could almost do a full run just with that soil, it's very rich.
Ocean Forest ... almost..50 50 with happy frog and use it with the whole run?almost
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