Miami White genetics = FL White Widow Humboldt OG??

[Green Dot]

If you don't perfectly skate the line with OG, it can come out like a completely different plant. Especially the f1s that have little to no vigor.

If you grow in ocean Forrest, your weed will taste and burn like shit no matter what

 

[loompa]

I've been moaning and groaning to many folks that OG Kush does this to the extreme. She is finicky and shows different grow parameters or grow styles in her final floral appearance.

Loompa, being that you've had the White for a long time, what do you think the genetic makeup is of it?

Your exactly correct baba G, especially with OG, but I've seen it on other things also and its all the grower and grower technique. Ive even seen the same cut express itself in flower in multiple ways, so much so, that theres no way anyone would think they are from the same cut.

Now what do I think personally about what the white is? Honestly..who knows. But I can say I highly doubt that it is related to OG unless its some OG cross done along time ago, but i definately dont think personally that OG was derived from the white. But the truth is I dont know, and no one will ever know untill gene mapping becomes more prominant and we can start mapping all these plants and tracing lineages. So all we can do is speculate, and speculation is just more bullshit thrown on the fire. But this is all just my opinion and let me say again...I dont have any clue what it is.....But their is no way in my opinion it was parent stock for what we know as OG. Grow out the SkunkVa Chemdog 91 and you will see so many similarities to OG that its ridiculous. Im much more inclined that OG's came from or are involved somehow with the whole Chemdog drama saga. Once again, its just my personal opinion.

 

[Green Dot]

I've grown 10 ghosts side by side.. Every one of them came out subtly different..

A good run any f1 OG Kush will always be the best bud you have ever tasted. I've grown so many OG hybrids that pale in comparison.. I'm deeply deeply hoping these yetis live up to my expectations.. Perhaps the closest thing to the classic OG in seed form

 

[jiggaboojones]

" drama -saga "
ifeel ya ... nowhere near ya but I get the bs n in hopes one day find my own way . best of luck to ya ....

 

[oscar169]

I need me some Abominable Snowman:D, Is there any pics of this one on the farm yet ?

 

[oscar169]

Exactly....for example.

-What's the lineage of OG kush
-what's the lineage of chem dawg
-what's the lineage of bubba kush

Those 3 things alone iv heard sooooo many stories of lineage I just gave up. It's not like how it used to be with stuff like skunk being made up of 2 or 3 land race types. Alot of breeding is done these days with hybrids people don't even know what the originals are of so I gave up and just enjoy the stuff I like and worry more if something is indica or sativa dom and how the buzz is. This for me is only because I can't handle racy sativas. They give me anxiety through the roof where I think I'm going to die. Plus as iv got older I smoke mostly for medical effects (back pain, anxiety, calm over active nerves) then my early years of smoking to get hella baked.
I don't have any problems with those chasing to know every detail about genetics as I used to do the same..... it just gets exhausting after a while and this whole thing became more about genetics then actually enjoying the plants for what they are and do

Hope I'm not out of line posting this in this thread if so let me now I can move it..:)

@Skunkmasterflex When I was reading this I remembered reading story about where the Bubba Kush came from, so I dug thew a pile of mags and scanned it, hopefully you can read it.

 

[Skunkmasterflex]

Hope I'm not out of line posting this in this thread if so let me now I can move it..:)

@Skunkmasterflex When I was reading this I remembered reading story about where the Bubba Kush came from, so I dug thew a pile of mags and scanned it, hopefully you can read it.

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Iv hear that story about bubba kush. The story I believe or at least makes sense to me is that bubba is a pretty inbred afghan line. Which would explain why it's so dominate in crosses, why it stays stout and has fat leafs and why it can purple up under the right conditions. Just my opinion as I don't have any actual info to prove any of this lol

 

[oscar169]

I have only had one Bubba Kush, But it was a clone that I got from a friend, so who knows if it was the real deal, but it always had real airy buds, so I'm thinking it was just some shit, that some just named it Bubba Kush to sell.

 

[Skunkmasterflex]

I have only had one Bubba Kush, But it was a clone that I got from a friend, so who knows if it was the real deal, but it always had real airy buds, so I'm thinking it was just some shit, that some just named it Bubba Kush to sell.

Probably a renamed cut then. IV grown a handful of bubba cuts and every one of them was pretty dense. Some yielded better then others and some turned more purple. Some had a coffee thing going on and some were just kinda a straight earth kush thing. Your in MI arnt you?

 

[oscar169]

Probably a renamed cut then. IV grown a handful of bubba cuts and every one of them was pretty dense. Some yielded better then others and some turned more purple. Some had a coffee thing going on and some were just kinda a straight earth kush thing. Your in MI arnt you?

Yup in MI

 

[OGkushistein]

A three-way hybrid of Northern Lights,Skunk and an Afghan , White is a super-thick, fast-flowering, Indica-dominant cannabis strain.?? Is there a chance this could be her genetic make up?

 

[Werunwild69]

It looks much more og looking then kromes white cut. Why does everyone think every strain came from cali? Don't get me wrong I love cali as I lived there for a minute but it's just a place a lot of great genetics migrated. Lots of stuff was made all over this country and made its way out west. Honestly there was probably more stuff that was crossed or "created" out of Colorado, oregon, Massachusetts and places like that. Cali was just the first big medical scene so lots of killer stuff surfaced there to make money. I'd say putting a CA tag on some genetics is more a hype train then saying something came from Las Vegas or Florida. Great growers are most definitely in cali and all over this country as well as genetics......just my take on things, no actual proof ~smf~

I grew up in Florida and started coming out to Colorado in the 70's to go hunting. We'd bring a elbow with us for the duration of the hunt. We met a lot of locals in the Pagosa Springs and Durango area. On all our future trips we brought much more and traded it for lodging and guided elk hunts. Eventually it led to the stuff making it's way to Canada. Really excellent Columbian Gold during that era. Was in Vegas for about ten years. I got to say the guys I know there have it dialed in for sure!

 

[Werunwild69]

I grew up in Florida and started coming out to Colorado in the 70's to go hunting. We'd bring a elbow with us for the duration of the hunt. We met a lot of locals in the Pagosa Springs and Durango area. On all our future trips we brought much more and traded it for lodging and guided elk hunts. Eventually it led to the stuff making it's way to Canada. Really excellent Columbian Gold during that era. Was in Vegas for about ten years. I got to say the guys I know there have it dialed in for sure!

In regards to the feed though, my research on it says white widow x NL #5

 

[Werunwild69]

Hope I'm not out of line posting this in this thread if so let me now I can move it..:)

@Skunkmasterflex When I was reading this I remembered reading story about where the Bubba Kush came from, so I dug thew a pile of mags and scanned it, hopefully you can read it.

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This is the first I've seen of this. I actually started a forum on "Gainesville Green". The first domestic grown I ever had.

 

[loompa]

Name changes like Miami white are lame. If people are the grower people think they are call it the white and let the product stand for its self. Otherwise it just adds to confusion more then anything and doesn't really help anything.

Maybe I'm wrong though but I know when 8-12 other people within ten miles of a me and in the same circle all grow and sell in the market mine moves faster cuz its that real deal done right. Not cuz I changed the name and added confusion and hype.

Miami white equals the white

Im going to have to disagree. Name changing is about the only way we can keep tracvk of what genetics and or cuts are being used. I name "the White" to Miami white to give credit to the story that it cam from florida and that it was Kromes cut. Would you rasther people call any white crosses and "white widow" cross? like some people are already doing with those lines being worked? I changed my Headband because some fakes came out with the bunk 707 Headband and people couldnt rap there heads arounfd the fact that my Headband cut was different. So I changed it to Underdog, thinking in my head that what I has was the Underdawg from the whole Chemdog sag. Ive tried my best to stay true to the genetics, where they come from, and anybody who can read can find me in public stating all this. I hide nothing. And Im also one of the few pwoplw out there not whoring those cuts out. Of course I work lines, but I WORK Lines....Im not a F1 polyhybred closet pollen chucker. And it you want unknown genetics from clset pollen chuckers, then by all means, go buy it. I targhet real coinnaseurs, I target the pot snob, and if your the type of person that thinks beer is beer, and wine is wine, and franzia box wine is as good as dom Perignon, then I dont want you smoking my herb in the first place. Not pointing you out in particular Rawman, just wanted to help try to exdplain the resoning behind some name changes, and I know your a coinnesseur, so im not targetting you, but I am targetting the people that can't do their research and follow all the hype and fads. Do your research, follow lineages, source stuff from as close to the original source as you can. And if you shop only for K-Mart Blue light specials, them my beans aren't for you.

 

[true grit]

I know you guys are crushing it with the quality meds but think you may see it a bit differently on the names. Changing the name of the White, Chemdog D, HB/underdawg, underdawg hydro, and the TK is and can be confusing and not very lineage related. I understand marketing for sure, especially in a tight market to distiguish your product and showcase the quality...but just call it marketing if thats the case. I continually hear you have the organic flame, shouldn't need much name hype

 

[baba G]

imo the white has NL in it...anyone who used to grow the Nl5 circa 1999 from Garber can see the similarity...

 

[loompa]

I know you guys are crushing it with the quality meds but think you may see it a bit differently on the names. Changing the name of the White, Chemd, HB/underdawg, underdawg hydro, and the TK is and can be confusing and not very lineage related. I understand marketing for sure, especially in a tight market to distiguish your product and showcase the quality...but just call it marketing if thats the case. I continually hear you have the organic flame, shouldn't need much name hype

Dude, you definately have a point. I cant argue with you. But whether we like it or not, this is the Great Capitalization of Marijuana. And in order to survive the changing times, you have to be willing to get into the fucking game. I personally hate it. I wish it was 20 years ag and I was still getting 4k/lb on outdoor. But it isnt. So your are correct, its all about Marketing. But at least I divulge in public and in writing the truth of everything I do. So you can easily find what genetics Im using and where it came from. Look at todays SourD cut....that shit is bunk as hell. Doesnt even compare to the cut I had in 2001. Its straight up swag. So as a breeder, how do you distinguish to the public which sourd was used? Plus, the majority of my clientelle are all serious pot snobs and coinnesseurs. Does anyone think I could ever get away with a lie...LMFAO, Nspecta, wayne, obsolete and the list goes on, they'd all jump my ass and call me out. Dude, I wish there was someway to stay true, I just dont have the solution....but I am open to any ideas anyone might have.

 

[Werunwild69]

Dude, you definately have a point. I cant argue with you. But whether we like it or not, this is the Great Capitalization of Marijuana. And in order to survive the changing times, you have to be willing to get into the fucking game. I personally hate it. I wish it was 20 years ag and I was still getting 4k/lb on outdoor. But it isnt. So your are correct, its all about Marketing. But at least I divulge in public and in writing the truth of everything I do. So you can easily find what genetics Im using and where it came from. Look at todays SourD cut....that shit is bunk as hell. Doesnt even compare to the cut I had in 2001. Its straight up swag. So as a breeder, how do you distinguish to the public which sourd was used? Plus, the majority of my clientelle are all serious pot snobs and coinnesseurs. Does anyone think I could ever get away with a lie...LMFAO, Nspecta, wayne, obsolete and the list goes on, they'd all jump my ass and call me out. Dude, I wish there was someway to stay true, I just dont have the solution....but I am open to any ideas anyone might have.

How do you think I feel about the quality and it's waning? I know the first time I met Marc Emery in the late summer of "97 I left his shop with 2200.00 worth of seeds. They were all good except some blueberry cross that I can't remember. I have seen Nothing that compares to the old pre cross x cross x cross x cross era of the strains now.
In the late 80's when I was in California I remember the highest shelf Cali-O going at 5500 a single.

 

[thgobs]

Werun. .. That's because most people cross og kush and chem hybrids. Most don't pop seeds and find winners and most people kill off males not knowing that they may have killed off awesome male and female genetics.