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MOAB, is it worth it?

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MOAB, is it worth it?

Bagger McGuirk Feb 2, 2009 160 Replies 154,104 Views
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BillFarthing said:
So many fanbois in this thread. Shooting powder is stupid expensive for what it is because it fizzes up. Oooooooooooh.

MikeGreat is right about ratios. If you look at tissue samples for the macros, the plant absorbs nitrogen in veg, phosphorus in flower up to about week 6 in flower, and potassium until chop just like a determinant tomato.
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Youve changed my life mate, honestly, im only a small grower, 3 tents 1 room 6m squared total. Even with just the extras like calmag, pk13/14,overdrive,flush, ph up and down , Ive saved a fortune replacing my water+nutrients that I was using. £4.35 for a gallon of calmag double concentrated to what I was paying £13 for 4 litres,,Knocked a litre up , sealed the rest away in a airtight container, jobs a good'n. pk 13/14 £12 a liter , ive just made my own pk finisher for £7 will probably make 10 times as much feed strength than the canna product at half price, again, its tucked away in a nice little tub with a label, nd the rest of my dry butes are packaged up in a TOTE box.. Next step on my hit list is the base nutes , and instead of having 20 litres of A and B sat on my shelves, ill be ordering in 2KG bags of the salts . This is the only one for me where instead of costing me less (which in the UK is quite hard for me to do, but in the US and Canada there are a multitude of places you can order the salts in smaller amounts to suit your needs)spending double what I would normally spend in one go , will make me 20 times the same amount of feed strength solution still ,this is spending £120 but with the advantage of being able to just tweak the feed the same way I usually would with liquid "cannabis specific" nutes, so say, a touch of calmag extra in veg, a pk boost in flower, and if you see any deficiencies, these can easily be put right just by easing up or adding whatever the problem is, with bottles, ur stuck with either, a lighter or more aggressive ratio/PPM or stuck with buying a bottle for this, one for that, . You can end up with a box of goodies, really cheap, and get to know what and when ur plants need things so much better than from a bottle it also feels good to cut the cord from the hydro stores ripping us off I mean come on, the BIGGEST saving for me, has to be when I stopped using Rhizatonic, This shit is £199.95 for 10 litres or £30 for 1 LITER!!!, and they make you use this stuff pretty agressively, at 4ml/L from seed soaking all the way through to flower, Ive started using cold press liquid seaweed extract and this stuff is shit hot, but its still pretty expensive at £30 for 10L so Im looking at using calcified seaweed , its water soluable and food grade too, im just not sure how I would guage the strength to mix the powder at to get the right strenght, Im going to add straight liquid SW to a gallon of tap water, and check the PPM, then weigh and add the powder until i get the same desired number in a fresh Gallon and I should be good to go. Also The seaweed mixed at 10ml/L is an amzing foliar feed that gives the leaves an amazing almost shiny metallic healthy green colour to them, as well as being a brilliant root stim ( natural sea Kelp grows up to 50M long ) Ive read That it contains vitamin B1(https://www.gardenmyths.com/vitamin-b1-for-plants/) too and has a "Special Ingredient" HaHa Ive had better/the same results using my cheap ass alternative. Also Blackstrap Molassas is amazing shit, Im struggling to find the powdered version cheap enough but the really good sticky shit(think about bud candy and the smells these sugary sticky nutes have got) sold in the corner store for pennies

Honestly all those saying they wont benefit as grow is so small and cant store 50lb of fertz, this is honestly worth reading up on and thinking about even for the smallest grower out there.
Aquarium stores are a good place to strat for smaller amounts of salts cheap as theyre for Aquatic plants which need the same.

Even the ebay sellers are getting in on the game, surely even this would save you money on shooting powder


Thanks again @BillFarthing
 
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