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It's doing good but it looks the same as when I ran it with house and gardens full nute run. It didn't ripen any faster, but I'm hoping it will yield much more with the moab/overdrive combo!
I understand the swelling affect of MOAB, but I created this thread to ask about the ripening affect. You know, trics going from clear to cloudy to amber! Thats what I want to know about! Does it help or speed ripening?
Good stuff if you don't mind what dosage of moab do you use or do you let your plants tell you how much they will take ? and what other feeding regime do you use. I'm currently organic but would like to maybe experiment with a side by side run . I have the full line of h&l ?
I value your opinion was reading a thread of yours last night seemed really on your game.....
peace SoSerThc1
Advanced Nutrients is the greatest company Marijuana growers have ever had. They have taken the nutes out of the stone ages of growing roses and tomatoes and advanced them into focusing nutes on cannabis. :cigar:
Dont want to start a arguement but this is very misleading. AN doesnt use anything different than what other companies do. Synthetic nutes are Synthetic nutes. Only thing they have done is overcharge growers and take hard earned money out of our pockets. With Herb becoming legal and prices doing down their will be a thinning out process of growers. Those that watch their expenses and track every dollar will survive, Those that pay thousands of dollars on nutes will not. Nutes are all about profiles and giving plants what they want when they want it in the right proportions. With a little research and time anyone can figure out nute profiles from cannabis, its not rocket science. If you buy raw salts and mix your own nutes or go with a company like JR Peters you will pull just as good results than with AN for a fraction of the cost. Im not saying AN does not have good products but growers dont need to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on nutes to have great results. Plenty of people on this site have proven this to be true.
Plant food is plant food, Calcium is calcium, nitrate nitrogen is nitrate nitrogen, mono potassium phosphate is mono potassium phosphate, P2O5 is P2O5. All companies use same derivities more or less just in different bottles and different amounts, add food coloring and fancy labels and mark up price. Weed growers are the laughing stock of the Ag industry for this reason.
Dont want to start a arguement but this is very misleading. AN doesnt use anything different than what other companies do. Synthetic nutes are Synthetic nutes. Only thing they have done is overcharge growers and take hard earned money out of our pockets. With Herb becoming legal and prices doing down their will be a thinning out process of growers. Those that watch their expenses and track every dollar will survive, Those that pay thousands of dollars on nutes will not. Nutes are all about profiles and giving plants what they want when they want it in the right proportions. With a little research and time anyone can figure out nute profiles from cannabis, its not rocket science. If you buy raw salts and mix your own nutes or go with a company like JR Peters you will pull just as good results than with AN for a fraction of the cost. Im not saying AN does not have good products but growers dont need to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on nutes to have great results. Plenty of people on this site have proven this to be true.
Plant food is plant food, Calcium is calcium, nitrate nitrogen is nitrate nitrogen, mono potassium phosphate is mono potassium phosphate, P2O5 is P2O5. All companies use same derivities more or less just in different bottles and different amounts, add food coloring and fancy labels and mark up price. Weed growers are the laughing stock of the Ag industry for this reason.
A healthy debate is good that's what this form is all about. If we just agree with each other all day and pass out likes we wouldn't learn shit. With that said I don't agree with your assessment. For the average grower with limited education salts could pose a mind boggling experience which could kill all of his or her plants. What advanced nutrients is charging so much money for is they already did all the science for you so that you can concentrate on making piles of cash. Now I understand that some people have some type of moral hang ups on just making shit loads of money fast with very little work then salts and cheap nutes are for you. Most of us that grow are always pressed for time and need short cuts like hydroponics and 1000 watt systems on timers to move shit along, because at the end of the day its all about profit margins! Advanced Nutrients has made it so simple and fast that a nube can grow like a pro. No other company has went as far as they have to simplify the complex science so that us non rocket scientist can make a buck. I don't mind paying more for the nutes sometimes because I saved over 100 grand not getting a degree in horticulture:cigar:
I understand the swelling affect of MOAB, but I created this thread to ask about the ripening affect. You know, trics going from clear to cloudy to amber! Thats what I want to know about! Does it help or speed ripening?
Advanced Nutrients is the greatest company Marijuana growers have ever had. They have taken the nutes out of the stone ages of growing roses and tomatoes and advanced them into focusing nutes on cannabis. All other nutrient companies are starting to follow suit and that is great for our industry. I hate half of their products and love the other half. I suggest that the true farmers do their due diligence and experiment with the different products on the market. No company is perfect and no farmer is perfect but it is great to have access to both:cigar:
I tested the moab for ripening and it is not very good for that, it will actually slow down ripening and continue to increase swelling. I ended up having to us kool bloom to make it start to ripen at the end and two days later hairs started to turn brown and bud started to get dense.
??? is this a joke?
edit to add, don't mean to come across as a douche, it's just that this doesn't make alot of sense...
Can you name another company that has as many products geared just for pot?
Umm.....well if you think brands like Heavy 16, Canna, and House and Garden are NOT geared towards MMJ people....then AN has brainwashed you. I still run a few AN products, but those guys are snakeoil salesmen. There is NO MAGIC BULLET when it comes to nutrients. I know people who KILL IT consistently with Gen Hydro. I wish I felt more confident with salts, cause if I did I would be using JACK'S.
One last thing.....part of your post says it all.....just reread it.
"that has as many products"
I wasn't saying that there are no other companies geared towards growing pot, I was saying that AN was the fist to revolutionized the nutes to be geared towards just pot and only pot and the other companies followed. I don't have a problem with the other companies just have a problem with people bad mouthing them as if they didn't take this shit to the next level. As a farmer you don't have to like there products but you also don't have to hate them, just hate the game! And non of the companies you named have as many products. And here in Laker Nation we don't add general hydroponics to our sfv og anymore because the market is just to competitive for that:cigar:
Does anyone know if MOAB can be applied as a foliar spray?