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i still say salt build up bro, that why i dont like them damn bags,once there in there ,in there they are,in a pot you could pop the bitch out and root prune it,i still think your not getting good drainage,you could run water threw there until you get the salt washed out,but that washes all your life completlty out,and when it dries your stuck with a brick ,even worse than the salt imo,honestly if you flushed that plant right there,wait how far in flower is it and what do thricomes look like
you ever heard of water curing? a guy on here told me about it last year,from arizonia he water the shit out the plant until it dies and smokes it,some how drains all nutes form the plant fighting off over watering,i never really look into it so cant really say how it works.
anyway next pot you make put a layer of flat rocks in the bottom of pot,this keeps the soil off the tray and has no choice but to drain even if you get in hurry and dont drain your trays it isnt setting in water,i feel the soil also drains better staying moist but not wet,gravity right,my pots have a layer about inch thick in bottom of them i have yet to have knats using this method,knats like the soil right on bottom that stays wet from gravity,think about it,even if plant is dry as hell ,plant gonna droop and shit,but stick your finger in the bottom that bucket gonna be drenching wet.
you can buy river rock or decorative stone from home depot or lowes i just use rocks from my driveway hahahha
so what about gravity,do you disagree the rocks act as a barrier of the permante water line you mention? when there is air space there is no bottom,even the roots grow right from the rocks,they then prune themself from the elements ,so i agree we disagree.I hate to tell you this but the permanent water line just stays right above the rocks on the bottom. It is keeping the soil out of the runoff but it is also reducing the volume of the pot.
And here is the reality about bone meal, phosphorous, myco and plenty of other gardening myths.
Linda Chalker-Scott | Washington State University
Horticultural Myths Looking for the newest myth-information? Check out our blog The Garden Professors. You’ll find science-based information from four horticultural professors from around the country. Fertilizers The Myth of Beneficial Bone Meal (pdf) The Myth of Vitamin Shots (pdf) The Myth of...puyallup.wsu.edu
see that study is crap,they using the soil as reference,so has layers,sand ,silt clay,clay IS the barrier you speek of,same as using in a pond to hold water,what i have indoor and out,is potting soil,big difrence,potting soil is lite and designed all around usage of fertilizers and air exchange,were soil is not,soil builds more biology because it is never distrubed ,were as potting soil is so full of peat ,perlite ,vermiculite ,rocks all kind thing to keep air movement,so in potting soil there is no base to form a perment line of nothing,only thing permenat is them roots balled up down there,the water still filters out the bottom ,has too,that why if you pot is stinking you got a problem,in soil there is no bottom,and over time it has no choice but to leach threw layer of sub soil which is pretty much clay,but still filters down and down eventually coming out as a pure water,but it isnt even permante it just a barrierI hate to tell you this but the permanent water line just stays right above the rocks on the bottom. It is keeping the soil out of the runoff but it is also reducing the volume of the pot.
And here is the reality about bone meal, phosphorous, myco and plenty of other gardening myths.
Linda Chalker-Scott | Washington State University
Horticultural Myths Looking for the newest myth-information? Check out our blog The Garden Professors. You’ll find science-based information from four horticultural professors from around the country. Fertilizers The Myth of Beneficial Bone Meal (pdf) The Myth of Vitamin Shots (pdf) The Myth of...puyallup.wsu.edu
i dont even want to go into the blood bone and metals bullshit i use it and works great no book or study gonna tell me difrent when day in and out i see first hand what it does ,but again i agree we disagree hahahah
Wow. Take it easy. The only thing the author said about the rocks is that the water line will remain above them. Tilt the pot after drainage. More water will come out with rocks or without.
If it blocks pests great. So does a piece of bug screen.
And bone meal does not break down fast enough to do anything as it is poured. Like adding lime to soil to raise ph will take weeks to actually work.
Lotta myths. Every hobby has them.
We can agree to disagree but i could have posted the same info from a dozen college extensions or ncis. I try to use credible info the best I can.
In the plastic pots I use I do line the bottom with some rocks out the yard or shells from a beach tripyou ever heard of water curing? a guy on here told me about it last year,from arizonia he water the shit out the plant until it dies and smokes it,some how drains all nutes form the plant fighting off over watering,i never really look into it so cant really say how it works.
anyway next pot you make put a layer of flat rocks in the bottom of pot,this keeps the soil off the tray and has no choice but to drain even if you get in hurry and dont drain your trays it isnt setting in water,i feel the soil also drains better staying moist but not wet,gravity right,my pots have a layer about inch thick in bottom of them i have yet to have knats using this method,knats like the soil right on bottom that stays wet from gravity,think about it,even if plant is dry as hell ,plant gonna droop and shit,but stick your finger in the bottom that bucket gonna be drenching wet.
you can buy river rock or decorative stone from home depot or lowes i just use rocks from my driveway hahahha
they actually have a liqud bone meal now they claim does become avaible quicker ,no i doubt it,but who knows,just 10 yrs ago they said eating red meat was bad for the heart,now they say it dont and that eating to much fish is bad for you ,so studies are really designed just to employee folks hahahah,Wow. Take it easy. The only thing the author said about the rocks is that the water line will remain above them. Tilt the pot after drainage. More water will come out with rocks or without.
If it blocks pests great. So does a piece of bug screen.
And bone meal does not break down fast enough to do anything as it is poured. Like adding lime to soil to raise ph will take weeks to actually work.
Lotta myths. Every hobby has them.
We can agree to disagree but i could have posted the same info from a dozen college extensions or ncis. I try to use credible info the best I can.
agreed we disagreeAgreed, it's called a perched water table. Rocks in the bottom of pots is not a good idea. All it does is push the saturated zone higher up the pot for no good reason.
Wow. Take it easy. The only thing the author said about the rocks is that the water line will remain above them. Tilt the pot after drainage. More water will come out with rocks or without.
If it blocks pests great. So does a piece of bug screen.
And bone meal does not break down fast enough to do anything as it is poured. Like adding lime to soil to raise ph will take weeks to actually work.
Lotta myths. Every hobby has them.
We can agree to disagree but i could have posted the same info from a dozen college extensions or ncis. I try to use credible info the best I can.
you ever have knats,i dont,the main reason i sugested it,also drains your pots were you water more often,now if you dont want to water often,then you need to texture test some soil and make real soil texture,it does not contain perlite and stuff like that it is a balance of which ever loam you choice to use,i prefer sandy loam again for drainage,but along with the sandy loam i prefer the iron ore clay in my mix over black and gray clay baseIn the plastic pots I use I do line the bottom with some rocks out the yard or shells from a beach trip
As you talk about the lime I added about a teaspoon in each 2 gallon container about 60-70 days ago think it’s still available
I love the healthy banter !
you ever have knats,i dont,the main reason i sugested it,also drains your pots were you water more often,now if you dont want to water often,then you need to texture test some soil and make real soil texture,it does not contain perlite and stuff like that it is a balance of which ever loam you choice to use,i prefer sandy loam again for drainage,but along with the sandy loam i prefer the iron ore clay in my mix over black and gray clay base
I used river rocks in the bottom of pots for years and read something a decade or so ago and stopped. When I started with the coco I didn't even think about it.you ever have knats,i dont,the main reason i sugested it,also drains your pots were you water more often,now if you dont want to water often,then you need to texture test some soil and make real soil texture,it does not contain perlite and stuff like that it is a balance of which ever loam you choice to use,i prefer sandy loam again for drainage,but along with the sandy loam i prefer the iron ore clay in my mix over black and gray clay base
never heard of bti is that a sprayAgree! Gnats come primarily from overwatered soil. But I got mine from poorly stored infected bags of soil from a closed grow shop warehouse. I shouldnt have taken the deal. Once I harvest the last yellowed plant and have only new soil I bet they go away all the way. Still have some here and there now. The BTi has messed up the adults from the sick larvae. They are slow and sometimes wingless now. But i am always bringing in a fresh plant for them to try to lay eggs in.
never heard of bti is that a spray
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