ogtealover420
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Nice set up bro and very glad to see the whole AN line (ptrttymuch). So your nugz look pretty meaty from were i am sitting but the the plants look like they are "pushed"hard what are your ppms?
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chief greenleaf
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Whats up buddy I sure hope I can do it but its gonna be a stretch, especially with this bein my first run in this space with these nutes. Nothings dialed in yet and this is kinda my first run with this strain since the other two were at my dudes spot and I wasnt takin care of em 100% of the time ya know. But we'll see, that video dudes 32 plant looked exactly like mine does as far as how packed everything is and all the branching. The branching is what was worrying me since I had planned on doin all single top colas but he didnt seem ta have any problems except for the mold but that was due to not clearing out the undergrowth and Ive taken care of that.
I already flushed really well and changed the nutes, but I def have a little bit of a mag def. She's a huge Mg hog, I was double up the MagiCal on the last 2 runs and she couldnt get enough. I actually think that its light bleaching. Im usin a Gavita with the built in reflector and its the brightest bulb Ive ever used by far, I cant even look at it! But the ONLY plants the are effected are in a oval pattern beneath that bulb! I also noticed that a few of the really close ones had gotten kinda crispy where theyre closest to the bulb. At first I was thinkin that maybe I forgot ta PH balance the cubes in that little group and thats why only those few plants were affected but that Gavita is just really bright and needs ta be kept a little further above the plants than the Hortilux. Any of yall have any experience with light bleaching???
What up ogtea thanks they were very meaty indeed my friend! Are you talkin about the pics from the last grow or my current run? In the last couple grows I didnt even keep track of PPMs, Ive used that BC/Fox Farm line for so long I dont even bother anymore but I probably max at about 1550.I know full strength with the BC alone is about 1500 so minus the Awesome Blossom plus the Fox Farm probably bout 1550 maybe 1600.
But right now Im feedin just a little stronger than ANs light feed schedule, they recommend 1133 in the 3rd week and Im at about 1230. Im supposed ta peak at 1200 in week 4 & 5 but Ill probably bump it up ta 1300 maybe 1350. This Choc can really handle the nutes, Ive tryed pushin her really hard and have never even had a lil tip burn at all. But Im really tryin ta get this pheno and nute line figured out so Im pushin but not as much on this run.:character0180:
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Malachi
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if she is a mag whore maybe next run you wanna switch out the bud candy for botanicare's sweet, the ingredients are very similiar but the sweet has much more mag
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chief greenleaf
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Im gonna give em a week or so ta see if the bottom leaves start ta clear up, and if they dont or I see it spreading Im gonna add some MagiCal. But I went over the ingredients to all my nutes and there seems ta be plenty of Mg ta go around but Ive noticed when usin RO water you usually need ta add extra Mg/Cal regardless of strain. But I really do think that the yellowing on the top leaves under that Gavita is from light bleaching. Can ya think of any other reason an isolated group of plants directly under the light would be the only ones affected? I mean not a single plant on the other side of the table under the horti has even a tint of yellowing at all. Im just wonderin if light bleaching is permanent or will the color return to the leaves in a week or two???
You usin AN as well or you just speakin in general? All my other plants are doin fantastic, deep green, shiney, thick leaves and nice sturdy stalks. Its just the ones that are right around and under the Gavita that are yellowing. And since Ive raised the light it hasnt progressed at all that I can see.
Im gonna do some research on light bleaching, any of yall have any experience with it???
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chief greenleaf
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Whats happenin everybody, time for an update! Tuesday will be the start of week 4 or day 22 so in the next week or so things are really gonna start takin off. This pheno is really slow to start but once you get close ta week 5 they go completely bonkers! I cant wait! Quality of these pics arent the greatest, been havin a hard time gettin the right light ta take some good ones. When the lights are one I either get those annoying ass lines or the glare from that damn Gavita makes it so you cant see anything. Ive been tryin ta get pics right before or after the light cycle starts but this tent is in my closet and its so damn dark in there even with all the lights on and the flash I still cant get a decent damn pic! But Im gonna try usin a dif camera and hangin a floro in there. I promise we WILL have clear detailed bud porn on this thread, and lots of it!
In pic 7 I thru in one of the new hood I picked up. Its an Arctic Sun, its really got some nice light coverage and the design keeps the bulb really cool. I can touch the glass beneath the bulb with no problem!
In pics 11 & 12 you can really see how much brighter the Gavita is than the Hortilux. The Gavita is on the right if ya cant already tell! :sun2:
In pic 7 I thru in one of the new hood I picked up. Its an Arctic Sun, its really got some nice light coverage and the design keeps the bulb really cool. I can touch the glass beneath the bulb with no problem!
In pics 11 & 12 you can really see how much brighter the Gavita is than the Hortilux. The Gavita is on the right if ya cant already tell! :sun2:
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chief greenleaf
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Oh yea yall have any experience with your PPMs rising really high without anything being added to the res???
The PPMs were at about 1230 when I changed the res last Tues, which is 100 higher than the light feed schedule recommends. But so far I havent seen any evidence of over fert at all and Ive been tryin ta get these girls dialed in and see what they can take. Anyway before I flood I always check the PH/PPMs just ta be safe and yesterday I noticed that the PPMs were at 1500! So almost a 300 PPM rise in 4 days without adding anything to the res.
Ive got two theories so far. One, the girls are using more water than nutrients which is causing the PPMs and PH to increase. Or the combo of Bud Candy and airation is providing an ideal environment for my beneficials and theyre multiplying like crazy causing my PPMs to rise...
Any ideas???
The PPMs were at about 1230 when I changed the res last Tues, which is 100 higher than the light feed schedule recommends. But so far I havent seen any evidence of over fert at all and Ive been tryin ta get these girls dialed in and see what they can take. Anyway before I flood I always check the PH/PPMs just ta be safe and yesterday I noticed that the PPMs were at 1500! So almost a 300 PPM rise in 4 days without adding anything to the res.
Ive got two theories so far. One, the girls are using more water than nutrients which is causing the PPMs and PH to increase. Or the combo of Bud Candy and airation is providing an ideal environment for my beneficials and theyre multiplying like crazy causing my PPMs to rise...
Any ideas???
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Malachi
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lookin good chief! so how are you liking the hydro? do you have a cover on your res? if not then the evaporation could cause the PPM's to rise also. is your PH stayin the same or climbing as well? how is your deficiency? it looks like that flush really helped you out
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chief greenleaf
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What up Malachi, thanks man Im really likin the hydro so far. I cant believe how much faster things grow, its freakin crazy! They stretched at least twice as much as they did when grown in coco, I think its cuz of how fast they took off when I put em under the lights in the flood table.
But yea I got a cover on the rez. My PH does go up a little bit at a time as the girls use up the nutes, but I think thats normal right? But since I noticed the PPMs had gone up the PH seems ta be rising a little faster than usual. The only thing that Id done different before the PPMs went up was add a natural sponge to the rez. I cut a hole in the middle of it and put my airstone inside, its suppose ta give the beneficials a place to colonize instead of making the walls of your rez all slimey. The feed sched recommends adding the beneficials thru veg up to the 2nd week of flower but since I didnt use them in veg I added the rest of what I had left which wasnt much. Im thinkin addin those and the sponge combined with the Bud Candy and the airstone has created an ideal environment and theyre multiplyin like crazy, you ever heard anything like that???
But as far as the deficiency I think I might have a slight Mg def that affecting some of the lower leaves but Im pretty sure that all that strong yellowing in the top leaves was actually light bleaching. The only ones affected were directly under and around that Gavita bulb, besides those not a single other leaf was yellowing at all. I cant think of anything else that would explain isolated yellowing that ya know. And since I raised the lights it hasnt progressed at all, Im just wondering if the affected leaves will regain their color or if theyll stay yellow throughout the cycle?
But yea I got a cover on the rez. My PH does go up a little bit at a time as the girls use up the nutes, but I think thats normal right? But since I noticed the PPMs had gone up the PH seems ta be rising a little faster than usual. The only thing that Id done different before the PPMs went up was add a natural sponge to the rez. I cut a hole in the middle of it and put my airstone inside, its suppose ta give the beneficials a place to colonize instead of making the walls of your rez all slimey. The feed sched recommends adding the beneficials thru veg up to the 2nd week of flower but since I didnt use them in veg I added the rest of what I had left which wasnt much. Im thinkin addin those and the sponge combined with the Bud Candy and the airstone has created an ideal environment and theyre multiplyin like crazy, you ever heard anything like that???
But as far as the deficiency I think I might have a slight Mg def that affecting some of the lower leaves but Im pretty sure that all that strong yellowing in the top leaves was actually light bleaching. The only ones affected were directly under and around that Gavita bulb, besides those not a single other leaf was yellowing at all. I cant think of anything else that would explain isolated yellowing that ya know. And since I raised the lights it hasnt progressed at all, Im just wondering if the affected leaves will regain their color or if theyll stay yellow throughout the cycle?
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Malachi
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I dunno about the colonization of benis that much man. Sounds like that could be it, but I am no expert on them. I usually just give them to the plants during veg and then cut them out when I start putting the sugars to them. That plant success I got seems to doing the trick. I have always used florablend, but I decided to try something different. I am going to flip my scrog next weekend. At what point in your feeding schedule does it say to stop the Rhino Skin? I have heard to stop the silicates at like week 3 because the cell walls are fully developed by then and the plant is concentrating its energy on bud formation.
I am not sure about your bleaching, I bleached my leaves once a while back but I honestly can't remember how long it took them to get some color back, but they do eventually start to green up again.
It seems like you are having a good run for your first go around. I wouldn't be surprised if you pulled 24 zips outta there.
I am not sure about your bleaching, I bleached my leaves once a while back but I honestly can't remember how long it took them to get some color back, but they do eventually start to green up again.
It seems like you are having a good run for your first go around. I wouldn't be surprised if you pulled 24 zips outta there.
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chief greenleaf
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Sorry for the delay yall, been havin computer problems. Anybody ever had their screen go so dim its almost blank but everything still work fine? The screen looks totally black but if you look real close at an angle you can see the desktop and everything so other than not bein able ta see shit its workin great! Any ideas???
Anywhoo I recently found out some very interesting info concearning my PPM jumps. I was kickin it with my buddy and discussing the issue, he owns a local grow shop and is a AN guru! He said he'd never seen anything like it and he's been usin AN since they came out and answers shit tons of questions about em for customers on a regular basis. He was stumped until I mentioned flushing w/Clearex. He claims that if your using AN exclusively there is absolutely no need ta do weekly/biweekly flushes or any at all except for in the final week. Supposedly something about the way theyre made prevents any major buildups in the medium. Im kinda skeptical but he feeds at over 1500 PPMs using the same recipe and gets amazing results every trip.
He says that even tho theres no need,there's nothing wrong with flushing w/plain water its the Clearex thats causing my PPMs ta rise. Its got chelating agents in it that are designed to not only remove any salts from the medium but to also block the uptake of any further nutrients that are introduced into the medium. Supposedly they can remain in the medium for awhile and block the uptake of nutrients well after the flush is done. So basically my girls are drinking water and leaving behind the nutes, causing my PPMs ta go up more and more after every feeding. And after reading up a little on Clearex it does make sense, but they recommend using it in hydro once every one ta two res changes so I dont know what the hell ta think!
He said that after a few days the chelating agents should wash out and the PPMs should stop rising. I changed my res Tuesday and set my PPMs to about 1300. The next day everything was fine and then I checked today... my PPMs are at freakin 1650!!! So obviously nutrients are still being blocked from absorbtion by the roots and unfortunately Im at a point in the flowering cycle where nutrient uptake is supposed ta be at its peak! This is getting extremely frustrating but Im gonna water down the res to 1300 again and see what happens, Ill keep you guys posted.
Whats up Malachi, I think I read that same thread about using silicates past week 3 and dude def makes some good points. Its on the farm right? Anyway the recipe suggests using the Rhino Skin in weeks 1-6, but they might just be tryin ta get you ta use as much of it as possible so you have ta buy more sooner ya know! But it does seem like stalks keep thickening up past week 3, if the plant is focusing mostly on flower development that might be even more of a good reason ta use something ta help strengthen the stalks. Supposedly the silicates and some other things in Rhino Skin help increase the flow of nutrients thru the stems as well which def isnt a bad thing ta have goin on after week 3.
But as far as the bleaching goes Ive officially confirmed thats whats causing the yellowing and not a deficiency. Since that Gavita is so much brighter than the Horti I decided ta switch sides every two weeks. Since I did this the upper leaves on the side that the Gavita is now on have started to show slight signs of yellowing just like the other side did directly under the bulb. So I raised the lights a lil bit and that should solve the problem.
But I hope your right about the 24 zips man, Id be extremely pleased! But if this PPM crap keeps goin on and slowing the uptake of nutes its gonna kill my yield!
You know what I was just thinkin that Ive added PH down since changin the res, that does change your PPMs right??? If that is responsible for the increase do you still count the PPMs caused by the PH down when judging how strong your nutes are? If my plants react well to 1300 PPMs and I add 300 PPMs of PH down, making the PPMs 1600, that wont cause overfeeding right since 300 of the PPMs arent from nutrients??? Never thought about this one!
Anywhoo I recently found out some very interesting info concearning my PPM jumps. I was kickin it with my buddy and discussing the issue, he owns a local grow shop and is a AN guru! He said he'd never seen anything like it and he's been usin AN since they came out and answers shit tons of questions about em for customers on a regular basis. He was stumped until I mentioned flushing w/Clearex. He claims that if your using AN exclusively there is absolutely no need ta do weekly/biweekly flushes or any at all except for in the final week. Supposedly something about the way theyre made prevents any major buildups in the medium. Im kinda skeptical but he feeds at over 1500 PPMs using the same recipe and gets amazing results every trip.
He says that even tho theres no need,there's nothing wrong with flushing w/plain water its the Clearex thats causing my PPMs ta rise. Its got chelating agents in it that are designed to not only remove any salts from the medium but to also block the uptake of any further nutrients that are introduced into the medium. Supposedly they can remain in the medium for awhile and block the uptake of nutrients well after the flush is done. So basically my girls are drinking water and leaving behind the nutes, causing my PPMs ta go up more and more after every feeding. And after reading up a little on Clearex it does make sense, but they recommend using it in hydro once every one ta two res changes so I dont know what the hell ta think!
He said that after a few days the chelating agents should wash out and the PPMs should stop rising. I changed my res Tuesday and set my PPMs to about 1300. The next day everything was fine and then I checked today... my PPMs are at freakin 1650!!! So obviously nutrients are still being blocked from absorbtion by the roots and unfortunately Im at a point in the flowering cycle where nutrient uptake is supposed ta be at its peak! This is getting extremely frustrating but Im gonna water down the res to 1300 again and see what happens, Ill keep you guys posted.
Whats up Malachi, I think I read that same thread about using silicates past week 3 and dude def makes some good points. Its on the farm right? Anyway the recipe suggests using the Rhino Skin in weeks 1-6, but they might just be tryin ta get you ta use as much of it as possible so you have ta buy more sooner ya know! But it does seem like stalks keep thickening up past week 3, if the plant is focusing mostly on flower development that might be even more of a good reason ta use something ta help strengthen the stalks. Supposedly the silicates and some other things in Rhino Skin help increase the flow of nutrients thru the stems as well which def isnt a bad thing ta have goin on after week 3.
But as far as the bleaching goes Ive officially confirmed thats whats causing the yellowing and not a deficiency. Since that Gavita is so much brighter than the Horti I decided ta switch sides every two weeks. Since I did this the upper leaves on the side that the Gavita is now on have started to show slight signs of yellowing just like the other side did directly under the bulb. So I raised the lights a lil bit and that should solve the problem.
But I hope your right about the 24 zips man, Id be extremely pleased! But if this PPM crap keeps goin on and slowing the uptake of nutes its gonna kill my yield!
You know what I was just thinkin that Ive added PH down since changin the res, that does change your PPMs right??? If that is responsible for the increase do you still count the PPMs caused by the PH down when judging how strong your nutes are? If my plants react well to 1300 PPMs and I add 300 PPMs of PH down, making the PPMs 1600, that wont cause overfeeding right since 300 of the PPMs arent from nutrients??? Never thought about this one!
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MASSES 420KING
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nice setup chief chair pulled and subscibed
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Malachi
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I don't get any fluctuation in PPM's when I introduce PH down to my res. I think that PPM's are the amount of nutrient salts in your solution and I am pretty sure that PH down doesn't have any salts in it. (Well the GH one that I use anyway). I have never heard of clearex actually blocking out nutrient uptake in your solution. I usually find that after a good flush my PPM uptakes actually increases. For instance this past res. change I set my PPM at 1250 and in 4 days it was down to 1000, all I do is add PH down to adjust the PH swings. Maybe it is something to do with the AN line, but I doubt it. You have me stumped. When was the last time you calibrated your PPM meter?
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chief greenleaf
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Man I calibrate that damn meter every couple days, more if things dont add up or make sense like its been recently! And Ive got 2 different meters too so I know its not wrong. I cant believe you dont get any PPM increases after adding PH Down, you use the General Hydro thats orange/yellow colored right???
Well after posting yesterday I was real curious about the PH adjusters possibly being the culprit, its absolutely the only thing that I had added to my res between testing it at 1300 after the res change and yesterday when it was 1650. So I filled up a cup with pure RO water with a PPM of about 10. I then added 3 drops of GH PH down, stired, and tested it again. My PPMs were now over 100! Then I added several more drops, maybe 20 or so and my PPMs were over 750! Ive never knowm PH up or down to affect PPMs either but its been awhile since Ive used one and thinkin about it I would normally test the PPMs right after adding all the solution and then wait a few hours until the nutes get nice and mixed up and do any additional ph fluctuation that theyre gonna do on their own before adding any up or down. Thats how I still do it because Ive always thought that PH up/down didnt have any influence on PPMs, this is probably why this never occured ta me before.
Malachi you should do me a favor and try this same experiment with your stuff and see if you get similar results. Hopefully Im not completely insane!
Oh yea I also tried it with a cup full of nute solution from the res and got substantial increases after adding just a few drops of PH down. After adding 20-30 drops the PPMs were so high that they wouldnt register on my freakin meter! This has got me totally stumped as well and makes me wonder if there might be something up with my PH down... but thinkin about Ive used 3 dif bottles 1 of which was a dif brand but still gave me the same results! WOW this is getting frustrating fellas.:sign0065: anybody ever hear of PH up or down influencing PPM?
Masses what happenin buddy, glad ta have ya along for the ride my man!
Update with GOOD pics comin in the next day or two yall, bear with me!
Well after posting yesterday I was real curious about the PH adjusters possibly being the culprit, its absolutely the only thing that I had added to my res between testing it at 1300 after the res change and yesterday when it was 1650. So I filled up a cup with pure RO water with a PPM of about 10. I then added 3 drops of GH PH down, stired, and tested it again. My PPMs were now over 100! Then I added several more drops, maybe 20 or so and my PPMs were over 750! Ive never knowm PH up or down to affect PPMs either but its been awhile since Ive used one and thinkin about it I would normally test the PPMs right after adding all the solution and then wait a few hours until the nutes get nice and mixed up and do any additional ph fluctuation that theyre gonna do on their own before adding any up or down. Thats how I still do it because Ive always thought that PH up/down didnt have any influence on PPMs, this is probably why this never occured ta me before.
Malachi you should do me a favor and try this same experiment with your stuff and see if you get similar results. Hopefully Im not completely insane!
Oh yea I also tried it with a cup full of nute solution from the res and got substantial increases after adding just a few drops of PH down. After adding 20-30 drops the PPMs were so high that they wouldnt register on my freakin meter! This has got me totally stumped as well and makes me wonder if there might be something up with my PH down... but thinkin about Ive used 3 dif bottles 1 of which was a dif brand but still gave me the same results! WOW this is getting frustrating fellas.:sign0065: anybody ever hear of PH up or down influencing PPM?
Masses what happenin buddy, glad ta have ya along for the ride my man!
Update with GOOD pics comin in the next day or two yall, bear with me!
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Malachi
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I actually just did a test, I took a 16 oz container and added about a capful of PH down and it had a PPM of around 450. I was thinking though I usually only add about 2-3 capfuls to about 20-30 gallons of nutrient solution to get it to drop about .5 in the PH scale, so that amount in 30 gallons wouldn't be that noticeable to me. I guess it all depends on how much PH down you have to add to your nutrients to get them in the PH range. I use FloraNova base nutrients and they are PH nuteral so I don't have to add much PH adjuster to my nutrients. I guess if you are adding enough PH down it could fluctuate your PPM's. I thought that AN was supposed to be PH perfect?? Besides you scratching your head on the PPM's how are your plants and your grow progressing?
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chief greenleaf
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My plants are lookin great man, I would be uploading more pics right now but Ive been extremely unlucky this week! First my computer screen goes out, then a day later my phone (ENVY touch w/great camera that I use ta take all my pics!) falls off my coffee table and directly into a full glass of milk! I mean it was like an Olympic diver man, no splash what so ever! Fully submerged, milk comin out of the buttons, speakers, etc. So its totally fucked and the warranty that I bought with it, just in case somethin like this happened, suddenly no longer exists according to the customer svc bitch. But the plants are doin great! I have noticed some lowers browning and falling off, but Im pretty sure thats normal due to the low amount of light penetrating the canopy. We've also got some nice lookin flowers formin so juicy buds are soon ta come fellas! When these buds fill in this is gonna be a site to see, there's already so many of flower sites I dont know where theyre all gonna fit! But as long as I keep my humidity in check and my airflow movin things should work out great!
But Malachi you said that water was 450 before the PH down, how high did the capful bring it up??? Since figuring out the PH down thing Ive been keepin a close eye on my PH and I realized that its goin up pretty damn fast. I figured it was normal due to the plants usin the nutes which naturally lower the PH. But 2 days ago I adjusted the PH to about 5.5 and didnt feed the plants that day to see if the PH would still rise. Within 24 hours it had gone up almost a whole point, which isnt as fast as usual but it still doesnt make sense. Before I adjusted the PH the PPMs were at 1625 and by the time I had gotten the PH from 7.4 to 5.5 I was at almost 1800. Yall have any idea what would cause my PH to go up like this even when I dont feed????
And Malachi according to my buddy that owns the shop AN has released the PH Perfect crap yet, unfortunately! But when I change my res the PH is ALWAYS right at 5.9 so there's no need to add any up or down to the res. Its always the next day that I notcie the PH has jumped so I adjust it and then within another day or two it needs adjusting again. And Im pretty liberal w/PH, plants absorb dif nutes at dif levels so Ill let it drift up a little past 7 before I adjust. But even still its only Sunday and my PPMs are pushin 1800so if I have to adjust again before my res change on Tues Ill be close 2000 PPMs!
But Malachi you said that water was 450 before the PH down, how high did the capful bring it up??? Since figuring out the PH down thing Ive been keepin a close eye on my PH and I realized that its goin up pretty damn fast. I figured it was normal due to the plants usin the nutes which naturally lower the PH. But 2 days ago I adjusted the PH to about 5.5 and didnt feed the plants that day to see if the PH would still rise. Within 24 hours it had gone up almost a whole point, which isnt as fast as usual but it still doesnt make sense. Before I adjusted the PH the PPMs were at 1625 and by the time I had gotten the PH from 7.4 to 5.5 I was at almost 1800. Yall have any idea what would cause my PH to go up like this even when I dont feed????
And Malachi according to my buddy that owns the shop AN has released the PH Perfect crap yet, unfortunately! But when I change my res the PH is ALWAYS right at 5.9 so there's no need to add any up or down to the res. Its always the next day that I notcie the PH has jumped so I adjust it and then within another day or two it needs adjusting again. And Im pretty liberal w/PH, plants absorb dif nutes at dif levels so Ill let it drift up a little past 7 before I adjust. But even still its only Sunday and my PPMs are pushin 1800so if I have to adjust again before my res change on Tues Ill be close 2000 PPMs!
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Malachi
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The PPM went up to 450, not the PH, it was 150 before I added the PH down. Maybe top off with RO water throughout the week to keep your PPM's in check. I do the same thing, I let my PH start at 5.2 and swing to like 6.3 before I bring it back down. Hope everything works out. Be safe. Malachi
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hererisssh
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PH adjusting agents definitely affect ppm. If your water level is dropping too they may be eating more than you're realizing. If you really wanna know what they ate, add back the same amount of water they consumed and compare the ppm value to what you set them at in the last adjustment.
Nice work.
Nice work.
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chief greenleaf
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Whats up Malachi, Ive been tryin ta top w/RO every couple days ta help keep the PPMs down but the PH fluctuates so damn much it doesnt really do much good. This last rez change I did my nutes at about 1350 and like usual after I finished mixing the nutes the PH was at 5.9, so no need to adjust. But by the end of the week the PH was goin up so rapidly that my PPMs end up bein at almost 2000 from so much PH down! And I let my PH swing to 7 just so I dont have to adjust so often. If I could just figure out what causing this rapid fluctuation everything would be fine, but its just goin up so fast I have a hard time believing that its just normal PH drift from high nute consumption.
Whats up Hererisssh, thanks for stoppin by man, glad ta have ya! My water level does go down, Id say I probably end up w/about 12-13 gal from the 20 gal that I start off with. But last week I adjusted the PH to 5.5 and didnt feed the girls for 2 days, that way I could see if the fluctuation was being caused by something in the rez or if it had something to do w/the plants uptake of nutes. Well even w/out feeding for 2 days the PH climbed past 7, so that pretty much tells us that it has nothing to do with the plants right??? If the PH still goes up rapidly w/out even having contact w/the plants it has to be something goin on in the rez. Ive heard that airstones can cause PH ta go up alot, especially when used in combo w/certain nutes. Ive also read that Tarantula seems ta cause the PH to increase, especially when used in high amounts but I havent added any since the beginning of week 3 and that was a very small amount. I read that if you use an airstone and smoke cigs in the same room it can pump smoke into your rez which can cause PH fluctuations, anybody know anything about that or any of these other possible causes???
Anyway I did a res change yesterday but I havent added the nutes to the water yet. I read that letting your water airate for 12 hours before adding nutes can help w/PH fluctuation, so we'll see.
I told you guys about the sponge w/the airstone inside that I added to the rez to give the bene's a place to colonize right? Well when I drained the rez yesterday I noticed a couple gray mucus lookin chunks on the intake of my circulating pump and all over the sponge. It reminded me of how a slug feels, texture wise but it pulled apart pretty easy. KInda felt like that Ghostbuster slime in a can stuff I used ta play w/when I was a kid! Pretty gross stuff, but Im thinkin it was the beneficials or somethin ta do with em, but I removed the sponge and airstone ta see if that might help the PH stablize. But anybody ever seen this gray slime stuff before?
Whats up Hererisssh, thanks for stoppin by man, glad ta have ya! My water level does go down, Id say I probably end up w/about 12-13 gal from the 20 gal that I start off with. But last week I adjusted the PH to 5.5 and didnt feed the girls for 2 days, that way I could see if the fluctuation was being caused by something in the rez or if it had something to do w/the plants uptake of nutes. Well even w/out feeding for 2 days the PH climbed past 7, so that pretty much tells us that it has nothing to do with the plants right??? If the PH still goes up rapidly w/out even having contact w/the plants it has to be something goin on in the rez. Ive heard that airstones can cause PH ta go up alot, especially when used in combo w/certain nutes. Ive also read that Tarantula seems ta cause the PH to increase, especially when used in high amounts but I havent added any since the beginning of week 3 and that was a very small amount. I read that if you use an airstone and smoke cigs in the same room it can pump smoke into your rez which can cause PH fluctuations, anybody know anything about that or any of these other possible causes???
Anyway I did a res change yesterday but I havent added the nutes to the water yet. I read that letting your water airate for 12 hours before adding nutes can help w/PH fluctuation, so we'll see.
I told you guys about the sponge w/the airstone inside that I added to the rez to give the bene's a place to colonize right? Well when I drained the rez yesterday I noticed a couple gray mucus lookin chunks on the intake of my circulating pump and all over the sponge. It reminded me of how a slug feels, texture wise but it pulled apart pretty easy. KInda felt like that Ghostbuster slime in a can stuff I used ta play w/when I was a kid! Pretty gross stuff, but Im thinkin it was the beneficials or somethin ta do with em, but I removed the sponge and airstone ta see if that might help the PH stablize. But anybody ever seen this gray slime stuff before?
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chief greenleaf
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Sweet lord sorry for all the long ass posts and I still didnt even really tell yall anything about my girls!!!
Anybody got any tips for keepin your posts short? No matter how hard I try I always end up writin a freakin book and I know that scares people away from postin in the thread cuz they dont wanna read all this crap!
Anyway today is day 28, the start of week 5 so were officially over the hump less than 4 weeks ta go folks! Im really curious ta see if the hydro ends up shortening the flowering time any, the pistils showed about a week sooner than they did in the last 2 runs due to the addition of Bud Blood to the Open Sesame I always use in the last week of veg/first week of flower. It should be interesting!
But the plants are lookin fantastic, Ill be sure to get some pics up later today or tomorrow. The flowers are starting to come togther and form little buds and its startin look like were gonna have one helluva yield this time around! I wont be surprised if a few of these bigger girls end up close to 2 o's a piece! Im already seein some cola's that are gonna be a good 18 inces long, and a few of these girls have 5+ main branches!
The OdorSok is definitely doin its job, Ive never used em before but Im sold. Usually at this point in the cycle Id be able ta smell em down the hall but I have to stick my head in the tent and shake the plants around before I get a hint of that sweet fruity smell. Its already startin to go from sweet to that rotten fruit/dead skunk smell that they always take on towards the end of their cycle and I freakin love it!!! The OdorSok is almost workin too damn good, I kinda miss my crib smellin like herb!
Oh yea and the resin production is off the freakin hook! Crystals are already startin ta stack up big time, Ive always heard that hydro produces higher amounts of resin but gotdamn!
Anybody got any tips for keepin your posts short? No matter how hard I try I always end up writin a freakin book and I know that scares people away from postin in the thread cuz they dont wanna read all this crap!
Anyway today is day 28, the start of week 5 so were officially over the hump less than 4 weeks ta go folks! Im really curious ta see if the hydro ends up shortening the flowering time any, the pistils showed about a week sooner than they did in the last 2 runs due to the addition of Bud Blood to the Open Sesame I always use in the last week of veg/first week of flower. It should be interesting!
But the plants are lookin fantastic, Ill be sure to get some pics up later today or tomorrow. The flowers are starting to come togther and form little buds and its startin look like were gonna have one helluva yield this time around! I wont be surprised if a few of these bigger girls end up close to 2 o's a piece! Im already seein some cola's that are gonna be a good 18 inces long, and a few of these girls have 5+ main branches!
The OdorSok is definitely doin its job, Ive never used em before but Im sold. Usually at this point in the cycle Id be able ta smell em down the hall but I have to stick my head in the tent and shake the plants around before I get a hint of that sweet fruity smell. Its already startin to go from sweet to that rotten fruit/dead skunk smell that they always take on towards the end of their cycle and I freakin love it!!! The OdorSok is almost workin too damn good, I kinda miss my crib smellin like herb!
Oh yea and the resin production is off the freakin hook! Crystals are already startin ta stack up big time, Ive always heard that hydro produces higher amounts of resin but gotdamn!
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Radio Flyer
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Looks good. My buddy is doing a SOG perpetual w/ C99. Yours looks good man. Keep up the nice work.
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