Old school skunk..does it exist???

[GanjaJack]

I blame bottled nutes for that one.

I am up in the air still on that one.

I am running a little experiment by keeping some of the water in the bottom of my DWC, when I do water changes.

Because like a fishtank, I am assuming that beneficials will build up, "in fish tank world we call this beneficial slime". and I am not talking about mold, or dead roots from under oxygen or heat...

I am talking that nasty shit that grows on the airstone and all over the side of the buckets on the inside, the stuff you have to clean after a grow.. (besides the hardwater deposits.)

Anyway... I used to do entire and full water changes, now I leave about an inch in the bottom of the bucket, I am HOPING that the end result will be a bit more flavorful.

ON top of that, if the terpene genetics aren't there, it's not going to have that flavor...

Right now, I have a 1/2 lb of some of the stinkiest tastiest buds you ever smoked, won't get you high worth a hill of beans. I got it from "Freebies" in the mail when I ordered some NL5's.

 

[Week4Bytch]

I am up in the air still on that one.

I am running a little experiment by keeping some of the water in the bottom of my DWC, when I do water changes.

Because like a fishtank, I am assuming that beneficials will build up, "in fish tank world we call this beneficial slime". and I am not talking about mold, or dead roots from under oxygen or heat...

I am talking that nasty shit that grows on the airstone and all over the side of the buckets on the inside, the stuff you have to clean after a grow.. (besides the hardwater deposits.)

Anyway... I used to do entire and full water changes, now I leave about an inch in the bottom of the bucket, I am HOPING that the end result will be a bit more flavorful.

ON top of that, if the terpene genetics aren't there, it's not going to have that flavor...

Right now, I have a 1/2 lb of some of the stinkiest tastiest buds you ever smoked, won't get you high worth a hill of beans. I got it from "Freebies" in the mail when I ordered some NL5's.

You had me at NL5. .. Post a grow thread on that one please, have a few of those from Shantibaba that I won't be getting too (not anytime soon) but would sure love to follow a grow of them. And I had a few tanks full of African Cichlids so I am well aware of the biology of the freshwater aquarium. If you look up increasing the brix in your DWC that would point you to the right direction. I'm new to this brix thing but think I have a deeper understanding of it from a week ago.

 

[SouthernOhio]

I had some of the big bud, I was able to breed it with the skunk...

The end result is what you see on my profile page.

What's nice is that because they are F1's they will hybrid, but, they are unstable enough that you can see the different genetics that you want.

So I can still pull a skunk out, or a big bud out, selectively. Breed them, and keep the genetics going.

Sometimes I will have a grow in which you can see the gradual pheno mixing from full skunk to big bud then in between across all of the different plants.

I bought all my Skunks in 2001 and basically bred by "open pollination" or selecting the stinkiest males to breed. All the labels on the bottles have been long gone for many years, so I have 1000's of Skunk seed waiting for legalization. I've never sold a single seed and
I bred these genetics in isolation so no Cookies and no herms or diseases.
I've never sold a single seed and have only gave away a couple hundred seed over the years.
I'm sitting on a small gold mine and will probably kick the bucket before I can do anything with them.
I'm not letting someone else reap the rewards of what I have kept for close to 25 years.
Once you let your seed out, there not yours anymore.

 

[Week4Bytch]

I bought all my Skunks in 2001 and basically bred by "open pollination" or selecting the stinkiest males to breed. All the labels on the bottles have been long gone for many years, so I have 1000's of Skunk seed waiting for legalization. I've never sold a single seed and
I bred these genetics in isolation so no Cookies and no herms or diseases.
I've never sold a single seed and have only gave away a couple hundred seed over the years.
I'm sitting on a small gold mine and will probably kick the bucket before I can do anything with them.
I'm not letting someone else reap the rewards of what I have kept for close to 25 years.
Once you let your seed out, there not yours anymore.

That's cool man...

 

[strider26554]

I bought all my Skunks in 2001 and basically bred by "open pollination" or selecting the stinkiest males to breed. All the labels on the bottles have been long gone for many years, so I have 1000's of Skunk seed waiting for legalization. I've never sold a single seed and
I bred these genetics in isolation so no Cookies and no herms or diseases.
I've never sold a single seed and have only gave away a couple hundred seed over the years.
I'm sitting on a small gold mine and will probably kick the bucket before I can do anything with them.
I'm not letting someone else reap the rewards of what I have kept for close to 25 years.
Once you let your seed out, there not yours anymore.

I do occaisonally let a few seeds go to the right individuals who are like me, still actively breeding skunk strains. if not for the help i have recieved with breeding im not sUre we would have the progress that we have going on right now. ill happily kiss ass if the skunk im growing today doesnt hold more than a candle to the skunk of yore, the strains never really disapeared they have just been watered down over the decades,and have morphed into the popular srains we see today, it has taken me about 20 years of dedicated breeding to isolate and then inbreed enlough to get what WE HAVE NOW.

 

[SouthernOhio]

I do occaisonally let a few seeds go to the right individuals who are like me, still actively breeding skunk strains. if not for the help i have recieved with breeding im not sUre we would have the progress that we have going on right now. ill happily kiss ass if the skunk im growing today doesnt hold more than a candle to the skunk of yore, the strains never really disapeared they have just been watered down over the decades,and have morphed into the popular srains we see today, it has taken me about 20 years of dedicated breeding to isolate and then inbreed enlough to get what WE HAVE NOW.

Those are really nice plants
I grew these last year from seed that was bred in 2008.

5 siblings in this pic, plus 2 in front are Blueberry crosses.
I topped the Skunks one time.
They seem to be pretty uniform and stable to come from a "pollen chuck".
I've never tried to steer a line to create a particular trait.
I let Mother Nature do that.

 

[GanjaJack]

I bought all my Skunks in 2001 and basically bred by "open pollination" or selecting the stinkiest males to breed. All the labels on the bottles have been long gone for many years, so I have 1000's of Skunk seed waiting for legalization. I've never sold a single seed and
I bred these genetics in isolation so no Cookies and no herms or diseases.
I've never sold a single seed and have only gave away a couple hundred seed over the years.
I'm sitting on a small gold mine and will probably kick the bucket before I can do anything with them.
I'm not letting someone else reap the rewards of what I have kept for close to 25 years.
Once you let your seed out, there not yours anymore.

I mostly been picking the shortest dense plants because I grow in my basement.

I don't sell seeds but I'd be willing to trade, I like the idea of my "stuff" being out there after I'm dead or the fact that I added to the strain.

I'm just not worried about "holding my seeds so no one else gets them"...

The only way these strains made it where they are today is by the fact that someone released them. Thankfully.

Plus too, have to remember that seeds go inert after a while....

We wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for people sharing their stuff..

I understand it's not about being greedy but keeping the perceived best for yourself.

 

[GanjaJack]

I do occaisonally let a few seeds go to the right individuals who are like me, still actively breeding skunk strains. if not for the help i have recieved with breeding im not sUre we would have the progress that we have going on right now. ill happily kiss ass if the skunk im growing today doesnt hold more than a candle to the skunk of yore, the strains never really disapeared they have just been watered down over the decades,and have morphed into the popular srains we see today, it has taken me about 20 years of dedicated breeding to isolate and then inbreed enlough to get what WE HAVE NOW

This is why it kind of crinkles my nose when people wave the Autofems around... I tend to keep it in the back of my mind that they are 15% thc.

While the old skunks are running 30's.

I'm not sure what people thought they were going to get with breeding ruderalis with skunk... I understand the shorter stature and less smell, plus auto budding and being feminized, but at the expense of getting only half the plant you could have by interbreeding....

It's great to have all these different varieties but, to obtain them by sacrificing the old is extremely short sighted.

One of the things that I have been noticing is that it's been getting harder to differentiate between the old school South American and Central American/Mexican/Oaxaca sativas vs the hybridized indica x ruderalis crosses.

Because those old school sativas is where the trippy psychedelic wicked heady THC high comes from, I find that those old Sativas also had the highest thc counts, far superior to Afghan and indica.

 

[GanjaJack]

You had me at NL5. .. Post a grow thread on that one please, have a few of those from Shantibaba that I won't be getting too (not anytime soon) but would sure love to follow a grow of them. And I had a few tanks full of African Cichlids so I am well aware of the biology of the freshwater aquarium. If you look up increasing the brix in your DWC that would point you to the right direction. I'm new to this brix thing but think I have a deeper understanding of it from a week ago.

I went through the grow of that already. I have about an ounce of it left of small buds lol. This is what I have got going now. But this picture is from a week and a half ago, they got buds all over now.

 

[Stokes]

I bought all my Skunks in 2001 and basically bred by "open pollination" or selecting the stinkiest males to breed. All the labels on the bottles have been long gone for many years, so I have 1000's of Skunk seed waiting for legalization. I've never sold a single seed and
I bred these genetics in isolation so no Cookies and no herms or diseases.
I've never sold a single seed and have only gave away a couple hundred seed over the years.
I'm sitting on a small gold mine and will probably kick the bucket before I can do anything with them.
I'm not letting someone else reap the rewards of what I have kept for close to 25 years.
Once you let your seed out, there not yours anymore.

I feel the same about my time machine.

 

[GanjaJack]

@SouthernOhio dude, when they legalize, you and me... we smoke together in Ohio.

I'll bring some seeds and some weed, some hash and some dabs. lol!

 

[SouthernOhio]

I feel the same about my time machine.

Yep! You don't just up and start giving your shit away to a bunch of strangers on the internet. lol
That makes no sense to me.
Especially with the focus on the esters and thiols that they barely know anything about as far as affects.
There's nothing I have bought since about 2014 that even comes close to the stench of the old skunk.
WTF has happened to all the killer weed?
Now it's all "sweet dirt" x "burnt cardboard",
with an over abundance of herms and some HLVD for free.

 

[SouthernOhio]

@SouthernOhio dude, when they legalize, you and me... we smoke together in Ohio.

I'll bring some seeds and some weed, some hash and some dabs. lol!

We can start with something like this.

 

[GanjaJack]

Yep! You don't just up and start giving your shit away to a bunch of strangers on the internet. lol
That makes no sense to me.
Especially with the focus on the esters and thiols that they barely know anything about as far as affects.
There's nothing I have bought since about 2014 that even comes close to the stench of the old skunk.
WTF has happened to all the killer weed?
Now it's all "sweet dirt" x "burnt cardboard",
with an over abundance of herms and some HLVD for free.

This is all very true, what you say, and is not "going in one ear and out the other", on my end at least. Especially the HLVD shit, though I think I know where that is coming from and people need to stop handling the weed that they are smoking and then going and touching their plants.

=)

Or handling their seeds for that matter.

Cause I'm thinking that it's coming from large Chinese grows. People buy the weed, grind it up, then go touch their plants... Automatic transfer. And I'm not against Chinese folks... It's just that they got different priorities in how they grow and may not be taking the necessary steps to ensure that their grows are sterile.

They also have a prime interest in eliminating the competition. Which is anyone else that is growing and not buying their weed.

 

[benjones]

I don’t smoke indoor anymore,
The outdoor I grow blows away any indoor I’ve ever grown. The high is better, stronger and overall stank over any indoor. Hoping for a skunk in this mix. This should last me the winter
21 different strains, perfect timing for the holidays

Hi @1diesel1

I live in Thailand and grow indoors but I’d love to do some outdoor . Humidity is a killer here . Would you kindly have any advice for me as to how to have a successful harvest with a relatively strong strain outdoors

 

[GanjaJack]

Man, I love pocket weed...

It's nice when it's fresh off the plant and JUST dry..

But, it's also nice after it's been cured for about 6 months.

I tend to put like a 1/2 oz in my pocket when I go logging or splitting wood. It reminds me of smoking brick weed but it's WAY better.

Hi @1diesel1

I live in Thailand and grow indoors but I’d love to do some outdoor . Humidity is a killer here . Would you kindly have any advice for me as to how to have a successful harvest with a relatively strong strain outdoors

Yeap, I live in NY myself and it can get really "iffy" here and the weather seldom cooperates anymore.

Then where I live we have deer mostly that LOVE weed....


But, mostly it's mold and temp issues and then time runs out and it goes to winter, sometimes we get snow end of October but plants aren't done yet.

 

[shaganja]

I love thc farmer. The best part is, somebody is gonna find her, and or create her or something close. Because from a destiny point of view, why else is there the app t.h.c. farmer? And why else is there a thread called old school skunk....does it exist? I believe these topics are here to help her return to us. Perhaps she is in charge, and she uses us to reach her ultimate goal, of world peace.

 

[SouthernOhio]

I love thc farmer. The best part is, somebody is gonna find her, and or create her or something close. Because from a destiny point of view, why else is there the app t.h.c. farmer? And why else is there a thread called old school skunk....does it exist? I believe these topics are here to help her return to us. Perhaps she is in charge, and she uses us to reach her ultimate goal, of world peace.

It's still out there in the seed maker's vaults, but they're not gonna take the time to dig them out and do some big pheno hunt because there's no money in it.
or
they're keeping them hush hush because of the recent findings about the esters and thiols and their medical potential being researched now.
They need genetics that produce these alcohol esters.
Nobody that I'm aware of in other forums I'm a member of have found any that lives up to the claims of being a real skunk.
I'm guessing late 90's until maybe 2004, at the latest,
you could still get them in original seed packs.
I haven't grown my skunks except for a few here and there for almost 15 years until last summer.
First smell complaint in 15 years happened last summer too. lol

 

[Backyard_Boogie]

It's still out there in the seed maker's vaults, but they're not gonna take the time to dig them out and do some big pheno hunt because there's no money in it.
or
they're keeping them hush hush because of the recent findings about the esters and thiols and their medical potential being researched now.
They need genetics that produce these alcohol esters.
Nobody that I'm aware of in other forums I'm a member of have found any that lives up to the claims of being a real skunk.
I'm guessing late 90's until maybe 2004, at the latest,
you could still get them in original seed packs.
I haven't grown my skunks except for a few here and there for almost 15 years until last summer.
First smell complaint in 15 years happened last summer too. lol

Yes valid points. When I was in HS and up until a freshman in college we still came across a few really hot specimens but it was still pretty rare to find. That was the timeframe from around 1999-2005 then after that the super strong Ester alcohol smell was gone like a ghost. That was the tail end of it before it vanished. I think it still exists and will likely surface again however the market is overly obsessed with THC percentage so nobody cares about mass producing it. What a dam shame.

 

[SouthernOhio]

Yes valid points. When I was in HS and up until a freshman in college we still came across a few really hot specimens but it was still pretty rare to find. That was the timeframe from around 1999-2005 then after that the super strong Ester alcohol smell was gone like a ghost. That was the tail end of it before it vanished. I think it still exists and will likely surface again however the market is overly obsessed with THC percentage so nobody cares about mass producing it. What a dam shame.

At the end of the day, it's about the $$$.
I can't be one of only a few growers that still own seed stock from a "time before" major changes happen in the weed world.
I think around1980 and 81' started the biggest change in pot history. Then early 2000's (9/11/2001),
Now we're in another major change and not for a good way. You have HLVD which 90% of CA nurseries had it,
Herm prone seeds are well above ordinary herm rates.
Bottom line too many producers and not enough consumers for everybody.
All are fighting for scraps.,
If you're the "conspiracy" type, kind of sounds preplanned in a way.
Who the hell knows.