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#221
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I agree, defoliate and lollipop after stretch
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I'm proper psyched for this shit. Bring it on!
 
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Edit- you should also plan a transplant to a bigger pot before you flower. I go with clones to a 7L pot than after 6-8 weeks 18L pot for flowering. The fresh media is nice plants love more room for roots at flowering.
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I wish I'd followed this advice now because I noticed roots coming out of one of the pots this morning which isn't good. Does this mean the plant will be root bound and no longer grow? Should I transplant them?

I thought I'd need about 8 litres of water for each plant to create a 30% runoff so I made up 24 litres of water with 60ml of molasses at PH 6.4. I actually only needed between 6 to 7 litres for each plant when I watered them this morning.
 

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I thought the run off from my plants after every watering was only minimal and it would dry up after a while. The pots are sat on elevators to keep them out of the runoff but it looks as if the runoff has been enough for the roots to start searching for it? I haven't been checking the run off since I added the SCROG net because it's awkward to do so but this morning when I watered them I got the misus to help me remove the trays and get rid of the run off. I will continue to remove any runoff amd hopefully that way I won't have to transplant the pots. Transplanting the plants now isn't feasible in my opinion.
 
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I thought the run off from my plants after every watering was only minimal and it would dry up after a while. The pots are sat on elevators to keep them out of the runoff but it looks as if the runoff has been enough for the roots to start searching for it? I haven't been checking the run off since I added the SCROG net because it's awkward to do so but this morning when I watered them I got the misus to help me remove the trays and get rid of the run off. I will continue to remove any runoff amd hopefully that way I won't have to transplant the pots. Transplanting the plants now isn't feasible in my opinion.
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you’ll be fine
 
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no reason for transplanting
the roots air prune..
have you looked underneath the bags?
 
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no reason for transplanting
the roots air prune..
have you looked underneath the bags?
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Not yet, I'm on my own right now and I'll need someone to help me do that. I'll have to do that later today. There's probably loads underneath.
 
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Not yet, I'm on my own right now and I'll need someone to help me do that. I'll have to do that later today. There's probably loads underneath.
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don’t worry about it, maybe just set up with some airflow flowing underneath the risers..
 
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don’t worry about it, maybe just set up with some airflow flowing underneath the risers..
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As well as my 6" Spider Farmer exhaust fan running 24/7 at level 3 I also have two clip on fans in the tent, top and bottom, plus I have a floor fan outside the tent blowing air through one of the vents 24/7, under the canopies. I had a long conversation with someone on the forum about this yesterday because as it stands I am blowing the exhausted air from the tent back into the same room as the tent. He said this wasn't preferable and that I should direct it out of a window, or at the very least out of the room. However, when I told him that my tent was a 4x4 and the room it's in is 3x4 metres he said that it should be alright with the amount of fans and airflow I have, although not optimal. I'm going to finish this run off like this and then when we move to our new house in August I will start directing the air from the exhaust fan out of a window. What's your take on all that?
 
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As well as my 6" Spider Farmer exhaust fan running 24/7 at level 3 I also have two clip on fans in the tent, top and bottom, plus I have a floor fan outside the tent blowing air through one of the vents 24/7, under the canopies. I had a long conversation with someone on the forum about this yesterday because as it stands I am blowing the exhausted air from the tent back into the same room as the tent. He said this wasn't preferable and that I should direct it out of a window, or at the very least out of the room. However, when I told him that my tent was a 4x4 and the room it's in is 3x4 metres he said that it should be alright with the amount of fans and airflow I have, although not optimal. I'm going to finish this run off like this and then when we move to our new house in August I will start directing the air from the exhaust fan out of a window. What's your take on all that?
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by the sounds of it i’d just turn around the exhaust fan blowing in, have it blowing out..
honestly i would need to see a video of your situation
 
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by the sounds of it i’d just turn around the exhaust fan blowing in, have it blowing out..
honestly i would need to see a video of your situation
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In the best world you would be venting that out or at least Intaking fresh air to replenish co2 during the day.
 
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In the best world you would be venting that out or at least Intaking fresh air to replenish co2 during the day.
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My setup I have a active extraction 24/7 just a 4inch inline at mid power with carbon filtration, and a passive Intake (through the door lower spacing).

My tents extract to the room with ac and and dehumidifier, the lung room extraction is filtered and thrown to the open world.

The catch here is I'm intaking just 5-10% of my AC CFM power so I don't put a strain on my AC and bills while still replenishing CO2 and helping remove night humidity.
 
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My setup I have a active extraction 24/7 just a 4inch inline at mid power with carbon filtration, and a passive Intake (through the door lower spacing).

My tents extract to the room with ac and and dehumidifier, the lung room extraction is filtered and thrown to the open world.

The catch here is I'm intaking just 5-10% of my AC CFM power so I don't put a strain on my AC and bills while still replenishing CO2 and helping remove night humidity.
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I'm not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean you have a passive intake vent for the main door of the grow room? And you extract the air from the exhaust fan into another (lung) room? What you didn't see in that video of mine is that I have a mini-split AC unit mounted on the wall, which is blowing cool air into the tent although I appreciate that this isn't fresh air, it's just air that is being recycled from the room. Do you think I can finish this grow the way I am set up? We're moving to our new house in August and when I get set up there I will blow the extracted air out through the window.
 
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I'm not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean you have a passive intake vent for the main door of the grow room? And you extract the air from the exhaust fan into another (lung) room? What you didn't see in that video of mine is that I have a mini-split AC unit mounted on the wall, which is blowing cool air into the tent although I appreciate that this isn't fresh air, it's just air that is being recycled from the room. Do you think I can finish this grow the way I am set up? We're moving to our new house in August and when I get set up there I will blow the extracted air out through the window.
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yep you can finish it like this for sure, if the humidity is in check for night time you gonna be fine.

my room everything is inside the same room. clones/veg/flower/dry and cure. + AC and Dehumi
so the whole room is considered the lung room and the tents secondary microclimates "chambers".
so i have one filtered extraction inline fan for the lung room, extracting a fraction of what my AC rated CFM, trowing old stale air filtered to the outside world, passively intaking fresh air from under the closed door also , and the tents exaust to the lung room without filtering.
if that makes any more sense LOL
 
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yep you can finish it like this for sure, if the humidity is in check for night time you gonna be fine.

my room everything is inside the same room. clones/veg/flower/dry and cure. + AC and Dehumi
so the whole room is considered the lung room and the tents secondary microclimates "chambers".
so i have one filtered extraction inline fan for the lung room, extracting a fraction of what my AC rated CFM , passively intaking fresh air from under the closed door also trowing old stale air filtered to the oputside world, and the tents exaust to the lung room without filtering.
if that makes any more sense LOL
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No I don't really understand. The way you explain it, you also blow the extracted air from the inline fan back into the same room? And how do you go about having veg and flowering in the same room when the light cycles are different? How do you prevent light leaks from the flowers that are in veg?
 
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No I don't really understand. The way you explain it, you also blow the extracted air from the inline fan back into the same room? And how do you go about having veg and flowering in the same room when the light cycles are different? How do you prevent light leaks from the flowers that are in veg?
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my english is rusty to say the least heheheh
every cycle(clone/veg/flower) has its own dedicated tent inside the same room no cross light leak.
this is the exaust of the room:

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tents exaust to the room (Lung room where all the tents are inside), and this extractor exaust the filtered room air outside the house.

So the whole room and all tents have negative pressure. (passive intake lower than active extraction)
 
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my english is rusty to say the least heheheh
every cycle(clone/veg/flower) has its own dedicated tent inside the same room no cross light leak.
this is the exaust of the room:

The Trasher's Sunny Corner of Dank

Hello all, just finished my last 2x 600w HPS run, as this year incandescent bulbs are banned from my country and no more bulbs replacement to be found, this a new place now setup with LED Bars. I've been growing since 2002, started all organic...
www.thcfarmer.com
tents exaust to the room (Lung room where all the tents are inside), and this extractor exaust the filtered room air outside the house.

So the whole room and all tents have negative pressure. (passive intake lower than active extraction)
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I understand how the extracted air would work because of the negative pressure, but the rest of it you've completely lost me. I think I'm just showing my ignorance here because I'm a newbie but then again maybe not because your grammar is hard to follow at times! I'd really appreciate it if you could make a video of your setup or at the very least draw a diagram from a bird's eye view and take a photo of it? I am intrigued and would really like to understand how it all works.
 
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I understand how the extracted air would work because of the negative pressure, but the rest of it you've completely lost me. I think I'm just showing my ignorance here because I'm a newbie but then again maybe not because your grammar is hard to follow at times! I'd really appreciate it if you could make a video of your setup or at the very least draw a diagram from a bird's eye view and take a photo of it? I am intrigued and would really like to understand how it all works.
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i’m not a newbie and i don’t understand all that mumble jumble! hahaha
 
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I understand how the extracted air would work because of the negative pressure, but the rest of it you've completely lost me. I think I'm just showing my ignorance here because I'm a newbie but then again maybe not because your grammar is hard to follow at times! I'd really appreciate it if you could make a video of your setup or at the very least draw a diagram from a bird's eye view and take a photo of it? I am intrigued and would really like to understand how it all works.
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i’m not a newbie and i don’t understand all that mumble jumble! hahaha
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Common, it's not that hard to understand hahahaha
Think of it as little rooms (tents) inside a bigger room (lung room), the lung room has AC and dehumidifier installed, filtered active exhaust and a passive intake to refresh CO2, all tents exhaust inside this room.
I will make a simple drawing tomorrow. LoL
 
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i’m not a newbie and i don’t understand all that mumble jumble! hahaha
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I posted a video of my setup in the thread. Any chance you could watch it and tell me what you think please?
 
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