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babyhughie586 · Jan 11, 2011

Onespark said:
I am growing in UC and I disagree that ph and epicenter feeding being a negative is "crap". I learned fast to veg them with a top drip or flood table until the root mass is well established before dropping them in the UC. Anytime nutrients or ph adjustment was added to the epicenter it messed things up fast. Once a nice top off res was added and PH kept 5.8 at all times problems started going away. Zone is the key for me. Sterile system. Have not had the brown algae since (crosses fingers). I agree that well established plants can take some of this abuse but why risk it? Your plants looked too small to be taking any of that abuse and still be able to get some momentum going. Just my opinion. Im learning too and I have killed an entire UC run with brown algae and PH drift. I cleaned my system five times with Physan 20 after the brown stuff and am rocking so far. I think you can do this just keep that thing clean, run zone, and get big roots before you drop them in the system. Last piece of advice... grow some plants in soil in your other room just in case LOL... Good luck amigo!

THIS!!!!! I COULDNT AGREE MORE... i read this after i wrote my reply

FatFreddysKat · Jan 11, 2011

^^^^WTF????....Ok Loverocketer are you really that full of yourself? "You heard it from me first, but to hear it from F1ydave has made you feel better, huh?" What kind of comment is that ? Were you not praised for your SUGGESTED solution to the problem?

Loverocketer ~ · Jan 11, 2011

You certainly come across as someone who will not tolerate being corrected, but in this case, i will much oblige you, and do jus' that.

I am the only one usin' the UC, and RO H2O, (and read closely 'cause i will not repeat myself for the motherlode or anyone else here, who has their head up their motherlode, i mean ass)
AND INSTRUCTING EARLY ON TO SHELVE THE TAP H2O, and purify.

It's already that obvious that you're to come out w/ both sides of your mouth belchin', makin' threats that you cannot follow thru with 'cause you lack the follow-thru.
Well put..in your mine, huh?

And if by chance, 'cause you're so well liked here," you manage to inflict harm via a MOD, by conspirin' to have the entire forum turn against me, or in the worst case scenario- BAN me; it will only go to show your hatred for not being able to stand within the radiant circumference of my light.
In other words, why didn't someone from the very start, such as the motherboard, not suggest this to Hoffa? It's so very elementary, but you are an elitist, and you want to generate your own light, so others can bask in it, and post up accollades in your honour. Forgive me, but first you have to truly help somone, and give what was so freely given to you & back to be someone in anyone's world, but you already know this, and have, right?....lolol

Do yourself a grand favor and crawl away w/ your tail between your legs, as if you've helped anyone where it didn't benefit you first. See how that works Motherboard?

motherlode · Jan 11, 2011

haha your such a tool man

your the only one trying to bask in undeserved glory

no threat mang - just pointing out that trolls come and go here daily - if you want to contribute and help people you need to learn how to talk to people

I dont need to point you out to mods man - guys like you given enough rope easily hang themselves and as far as turn people against you - your shit attitude did that

again man lets see the pics of your gracious radiance - that is if your here long enough to post any

I haven had beef with new people before and Im sure I will again - those guys are all either gone now or they are friends

balls in your court

FatFreddysKat · Jan 11, 2011

OMG Lovearocketupyurasser go back into high school kid, and ask jimmy himself, many of us have helped before you ever chimed in asshole!!!!!

FatFreddysKat · Jan 11, 2011

I love internet know-it-alls hiding behind the screen, makes me laugh every time, you said it Motherlode ,troll indeed, and nobody has to point him/her out either!!!

Loverocketer ~ · Jan 11, 2011

Then i stand corrected, although i was told to get over myself, for suggestin' from the very start, what ultimately ended up being the very best advice, one could give.

I will change the dynamic of an impending tide of anger over my posts, and suggest we start over and jus' be friends.

I apologize, but only 'cause MOTHERLODE wisely took the high road. I follow by example, and so i'll do the same.
Again, i apologize to anyone i may have offended, first & foremost~ The MOTHERLODE.

FUCK, I LOVE GRASS VALLEY, GRANDFATHER LIVES THERE.

babyhughie586 · Jan 11, 2011

"AND INSTRUCTING EARLY ON TO SHELVE THE TAP H2O, and purify"

Hey loverocketer "Why dont you purify yourself in the waters of lake Minotonka"

and after you do that maybe ill take u in the house and serve u some pancakes......... pancakes

Sry i had to add that in there

mittenmedgrow · Jan 11, 2011

oh drama at the farm again.

Papa · Jan 11, 2011

drama over, let's all get back to growing some dank, helping out jimmyhoffa59, and making the path easier for future farmers.

Papa

motherlode · Jan 11, 2011

ohh man he apologized and you still banned him - lol

harsh

edit: ok cool ban is lifted - apology accepted - lets move on

Papa · Jan 11, 2011

Loverocketer ~'s ban was put in place at the same time he was apologizing for the bs.

his apology is the type of response we encourage at the farm, therefore his ban was lifted.

now let's all get back to growing, helping out jimmyhoffa59, and making the path easier for future farmers.

Papa

jimmyhoffa59 · Jan 11, 2011

I love when people get E-Tough! LOL

http://i159.invalid.com/albums/t149/stefangiorio/E-thug.jpg

ANyways UPDATE TIME!!!!!!

I still have fresh water in there TAP, and little bit of nutes and like only 10ml of Zone..
Here is the ONLY thing improving the flaccid plants.. I raised my humidity over 50% with a vicks walmart special humidifier -the vicks.. and they are perking up some.. It is clear the roots are totally locked up and not even uptaking water because now they they are getting a lot of humidity 50-70% the leaves are starting to lift back up. SO FAR.. haha I just went snowboarding and came back and left my tent closed during dark cycle and the humidity was 94% LOL Tent was straight WET in there.. but wont hurt them since they need moisture in the air so bad apparently.

So thus far.. only thing helping is humidity.. dunno whats up with my roots being pretty much useless.

JACKMAYOFFER · Jan 11, 2011

jimmyhoffa59 said:
The ph swing your talking about goes beyond everything I thought your supposed to do.. Can you please elaborate for me on why or is that just what works for you? I am just confused because it contradicts what is typically the norm on here. Your grows speak for themselves but I need intel why..Thanks

The norm on here? Im no sure what that is... All I know is I get tons of pm's asking the same question and when I tell every one the same thing I have said since day 1... leave it alone and allow your ph to swing for 24 hrs then see where you are at..I then usally get a pm telling me that why is this all I know is what my meter tells me when I mix my nutes my ph rite off the bat will read as low as 3.9 to 4.2 after a few hrs its at 5.4 and the plants never skip a beat the system takes an hr just to recirculate all the water.Now if I was to add PH up what would my nutes be say I brought them to 5.5 after a few hrs they would be 7.0? I have moms in a few different UC systems that are so big and healthy and the PH is rairly checked I just add the nutes and let them swing.. I start off low and bring them up slowly so I will start at 600 ppm and a ph 0f 5.4 after the swing. Slowly over the week the ph will rise until it gets to around 6.3 to 6.4 by that time I will add a little more nutes bringing total ppm to 700 to 800 this will drop my ph. (AT ANY POINT DOES THE PH DROP THE PPM'S ARE TO HIGH) In veg 600 to 900 is a good ppm for almost every strain..I know alot of guys will blow over this and still add ph up or down and a month later loose a crop and send me the same pm.. All I can say is this is what has worked for me..Hope this helps JACK

jimmyhoffa59 · Jan 11, 2011

JACKMAYOFFER said:
The norm on here? Im no sure what that is... All I know is I get tons of pm's asking the same question and when I tell every one the same thing I have said since day 1... leave it alone and allow your ph to swing for 24 hrs then see where you are at..I then usally get a pm telling me that why is this all I know is what my meter tells me when I mix my nutes my ph rite off the bat will read as low as 3.9 to 4.2 after a few hrs its at 5.4 and the plants never skip a beat the system takes an hr just to recirculate all the water.Now if I was to add PH up what would my nutes be say I brought them to 5.5 after a few hrs they would be 7.0? I have moms in a few different UC systems that are so big and healthy and the PH is rairly checked I just add the nutes and let them swing.. I start off low and bring them up slowly so I will start at 600 ppm and a ph 0f 5.4 after the swing. Slowly over the week the ph will rise until it gets to around 6.3 to 6.4 by that time I will add a little more nutes bringing total ppm to 700 to 800 this will drop my ph. (AT ANY POINT DOES THE PH DROP THE PPM'S ARE TO HIGH) In veg 600 to 900 is a good ppm for almost every strain..I know alot of guys will blow over this and still add ph up or down and a month later loose a crop and send me the same pm.. All I can say is this is what has worked for me..Hope this helps JACK

Interesting Jack I will go ahead and attempt to follow that next time. My tap water is 7.38 PH.. when I put my nutes in it was still around 6.8 or so.. so this is why I was using PH down and once I set it to 5.8 it stayed 5.8-6.0 rock solid.. Is there a ph number I SHOULD make adjustments away from? Say I quit using my ph down and I go look and I am at like 6.5-6.8 should I leave it alone still or lower it some? Ya you break all the norms but you have set the fucking bench mark here for growing in the UC so that is why you get so many PMs.. Thank you for taking the time to try to help me out, I know your a busy ass dude. Props.:harvest:

Shady · Jan 11, 2011

Sup Jimmy... I've been using RO along with DM nutes in my UC and didn't adjust pH as when I started my first week of veg since the beginning range was just above 6.1 pH... So far so good. While I can't pinpoint your issues specifically, it seems as though you've really put the root zone through a slew of diff products which can sometimes be detrimental. On another note, acid should never be added directly to the epicenter without being in a top res or solution first as doing so can cause nutrients to precipitate out.

:thinking I seriously think that your low RH is causing a high Vapor Pressure Deficit and impeding proper vegetative growth. Here are a couple links on VPD that I've posted several times in my journals and around the Farm. Hope this helps:

http://urbangardenmagazine.com/2010/07/plantworks-part-1-humidity-and-vapor-pressure-deficit/
http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1354770#Post1354770

P.S. I forgot to mention, my JBJ 1/10 HP chiller has been able to cool my UC System 6 down to 69 in room temps upward of 84 deg, but first I calibrated the chiller temp against my Hanna meter. Just a thought in case your chiller temps might be off...

OGONLY · Jan 11, 2011

Damn informative thread. I figured 6 months ago I'd be rockin the UC by now but just never pulled the trigger. Been having great success with rockwool, now giving coco a try. Not saying never, but thinking I'll keep reading this thread and shoot for next fall.

Hey Loverocketer, a good way to gain acceptance is to take the humble approach.

JACKMAYOFFER · Jan 11, 2011

I use RO it has a ph of 6.5 to 6.8 so if your using tap water your going to have to add ph down just make sure you use a little and add 80 to 90- % water to dilute it..Striaght PH down is a big no never do that...JACK

Aligee · Jan 12, 2011

P.S. I forgot to mention, my JBJ 1/10 HP chiller has been able to cool my UC System 6 down to 69 in room temps upward of 84 deg, but first I calibrated the chiller temp against my Hanna meter. Just a thought in case your chiller temps might be off...

i always wondered this as my activeaqua is a higher temp than my oakton meter i believe the meter is more accurate and always went by that gonna try and see if i can calibrate temp stat on chiller good post !!!=)

Loverocketer ~ · Jan 12, 2011

I can see, I can see.

Hey UC FORUM,
I thank you for havin' the CHERUB w/ the rotating sword allow me re-entrance into the Garden of Eden.

I would like to share images of our commercial OPS all mobbed up in a genuine effort to contribute to this " gem " of a forum, however, i'm not there, POSTWISE.

So, once again, in a genuine effort to underpromise & overdeliver; someday.

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