Rdwc And Coco Coir Adventures #nobubbles

mandalaman · Nov 12, 2016

Hello, couple of updates.

Got the filter and ducting in place.
RO filter came in and water is testing at 0ppm.
Grow store hooked me up with samples of full Heavy line.
GG#4 clones x 2 arriving tomorrow.

mandalaman · Jan 2, 2017

Updates, butchered them at first they're starting to come back. First two pics are timeline photos of plants. Next few are from tonight.

Peace.

mandalaman · Jan 8, 2017

Some updates. Some awesome stem action going on with one guy. Looks like he's bending over matrix style (allegedly they're both GG4, who knows, they look rather different - but that could just be me butchering them. Also some pics of Amnesia x 2 and BSC and SBxCK. Thanks for stopping by :)

mandalaman · Jan 9, 2017

@PhatNuggz these are under an Amare SE250 :) I like the light but future lights I'll just build out myself. I've always kept both switches on. There's no labeling on the switches. I'm assuming they are designed to both be on at all time? Or is the Red/Blue a supplement designed for flower?

PhatNuggz · Jan 9, 2017

mandalaman said:
@PhatNuggz these are under an Amare SE250 :) I like the light but future lights I'll just build out myself. I've always kept both switches on. There's no labeling on the switches. I'm assuming they are designed to both be on at all time? Or is the Red/Blue a supplement designed for flower?

I questioned that too. You can use the ring lights for vegging/cloning then switch, but leaving both on works too, maybe better. I think there's less stretch

Current DIY is pretty simple, and amazing (have you check out Quantum Boards?), but I'm ok with spending an extra hundred for pre-built, and excellent warranty

mandalaman · Jan 9, 2017

PhatNuggz said:
I questioned that too. You can use the ring lights for vegging/cloning then switch, but leaving both on works too, maybe better. I think there's less stretch

Current DIY is pretty simple, and amazing (have you check out Quantum Boards?), but I'm ok with spending an extra hundred for pre-built, and excellent warranty

I'm with you there. An extra hundred on 400w or more wouldn't sway me. I haven't found a nice prebuilt in that window though.

I haven't looked at the quantum boards yet, unless those are the boards Cree used in their trial against Gavita. But I know @REALSTYLES is working on something using them. I will be very interested in what they go for once he has everything ready.

mandalaman · Jan 9, 2017

This morning before their nap. Applied Heavy 16 foliar @ 30mL/L as lights when out, so will be interesting to see before and after. Lights go back on at 6pm.

REALSTYLES · Jan 10, 2017

mandalaman said:
I'm with you there. An extra hundred on 400w or more wouldn't sway me. I haven't found a nice prebuilt in that window though.

I haven't looked at the quantum boards yet, unless those are the boards Cree used in their trial against Gavita. But I know @REALSTYLES is working on something using them. I will be very interested in what they go for once he has everything ready.

I'm testing a 500w UL listed light that uses Meanwell drivers

mandalaman · Jan 10, 2017

Looks awesome @REALSTYLES Is the other footprint going to be more square? I ask simply because if I don't know, now I'll know.

Did you ever look at DIY undercurrent? You're killing it with the LEDs and you know the system

EventHorizan · Jan 10, 2017

mandalaman said:
Thank you! And good luck with yours :)

The light and the grow buckets have come in, and I have set them up. Here are some pics:

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Still up in the air on the base nutes :opps: might end up with Heavy 16 as there is a local place near me that carries it, and I believe the Plant Science Concepts team gives a nod to Heavy 16. I sent an e-mail to Emerald Harvest a few days ago with a couple questions and have gotten no response, so I am not terribly inclined to go that route anymore.

One question I do have is on the supplements.

@osa28 maybe you can chime in. Is the ColonyX redundant/uneeded in the grow I am running? Or will/should it help? Given the following supplements am I being redundant anywhere and/or missing anything important (Tonic,Sugar,CalMag)?

Base Nutes + OSA/28,Deep6,ColonyX,MammothP

Again, completely inexperienced with Hyrdo.

Now I am just working on getting some cuts. My original plan fell through. It looks like I may have access to Candyland and White Alien Fire in the next couple weeks and a nice M.O.B. cut in around the same time period. So I am likely a couple weeks from getting this thing actually started!

Thank you so much.

Not a bad start on your setup right from the get go.. !
You have good instincts. And good taste in equipment. Not to mention it takes some kohonnas to invest a stack in a pipe dream... literally speaking of course :)

mandalaman · Jan 12, 2017

@oscar169 Current nutes: AgSil16H 7.8% solution, CalMag, Hypochlorous Acid, Clean Grow Veg A+B

mandalaman · Jan 12, 2017

Some updates, from my other tent:
@rmoltis Should I transplant up the 2 plants you can see in the bottom of the last picture? Fan leaves are huge and blocking out light on the new growth tips I have from topping. I have tried tucking them and it's not working great. The leaves have a kind of crispy gritty texture, almost dry. Thoughts?

Sour Girl F2 from @Krypto

Amnesia Haze 1 - Personal Soil Blend

Amnesia Haze 2 - Coast of Maine Stonington Blend

Boy Scout Cookies Bag Seed - Coco + Perlite

rmoltis · Jan 12, 2017

mandalaman said:
Some updates, from my other tent:
@rmoltis Should I transplant up the 2 plants you can see in the bottom of the last picture? Fan leaves are huge and blocking out light on the new growth tips I have from topping. I have tried tucking them and it's not working great. The leaves have a kind of crispy gritty texture, almost dry. Thoughts?

Sour Girl F2 from @Krypto
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Amnesia Haze 1 - Personal Soil Blend
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Amnesia Haze 2 - Coast of Maine Stonington Blend
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Boy Scout Cookies Bag Seed - Coco + Perlite
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It's hard to judge without seeing the roots.

I personally have been transplanting once the training of my plants extends past the pot lip. This usually gives ample time for the roots to fill the pot. Then once transplanted they get tied back down.

When training bushes the root systems can grow very quickly I've noticed. As the vegetation multiplies so does the rate of root growth. The Beast had about 5 days in between each transplant and her roots filled each pot. Up potting her on time gave her a huge growth advantage over the #3 plant born at the same time but left in a smaller final pot.

Another sign to up pot is when you find yourself needing to water more frequently than you'd like.

But really you have the best ability to Guage this. So let us know what you decide :)

But with how much space I see.
I personally would grow less but in much bigger final pots. I've noticed larger soil pots seem to buffer nutritional deficiencies and toxicity 's. Plants seem to grow in healthier and more lush vs plants confined to pots too small.

mandalaman · Jan 12, 2017

rmoltis said:
It's hard to judge without seeing the roots.

I personally have been transplanting once the training of my plants extends past the pot lip. This usually gives ample time for the roots to fill the pot. Then once transplanted they get tied back down.

When training bushes the root systems can grow very quickly I've noticed. As the vegetation multiplies so does the rate of root growth. The Beast had about 5 days in between each transplant and her roots filled each pot. Up potting her on time gave her a huge growth advantage over the #3 plant born at the same time but left in a smaller final pot.

Another sign to up pot is when you find yourself needing to water more frequently than you'd like.

But really you have the best ability to Guage this. So let us know what you decide :)

But with how much space I see.
I personally would grow less but in much bigger final pots. I've noticed larger soil pots seem to buffer nutritional deficiencies and toxicity 's. Plants seem to grow in healthier and more lush vs plants confined to pots too small.

Nice! Yeah I mean the roots have been poking out of the bottom of the AirPot for several days now, so I imagine the root mass is good. Maybe I will try and take care of that tonight.

rmoltis · Jan 12, 2017

mandalaman said:
Nice! Yeah I mean the roots have been poking out of the bottom of the AirPot for several days now, so I imagine the root mass is good. Maybe I will try and take care of that tonight.

Once the roots can hold the soil Mass together when the plant is removed from its pot. Is another good sign for me it's time to transplant.

So your roots poking out the bottom is a good sign.

mandalaman · Jan 12, 2017

Some updates/pictures from last night. Im going to take some more in a few and I'll try to get them up later.

I moved out the solo buckets and moved in my diy RDWC system. I'm going to have to train them differently based on the setup. I'll see how they go one day at a time. A couple days ago i accidentally cracked one of the stems. The entire branch has gone limp/dead usually they'll come back but this one has been limp longer than usual without usual signs of recovering.

I'm rambling any questions just ask! Thanks for stopping by and any tricks/tips/recommendations/critiques are very much appreciated and never taken personally !!!

EventHorizan · Jan 12, 2017

mandalaman said:
Some updates/pictures from last night. Im going to take some more in a few and I'll try to get them up later.

I moved out the solo buckets and moved in my diy RDWC system. I'm going to have to train them differently based on the setup. I'll see how they go one day at a time. A couple days ago i accidentally cracked one of the stems. The entire branch has gone limp/dead usually they'll come back but this one has been limp longer than usual without usual signs of recovering.

I'm rambling any questions just ask! Thanks for stopping by and any tricks/tips/recommendations/critiques are very much appreciated and never taken personally !!!

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U have prob lost that branch bub.. You should of or still could try, to tape it where the break is..

mandalaman · Jan 12, 2017

EventHorizan said:
U have prob lost that branch bub.. You should of or still could try, to tape it where the break is..

Oh it's been twisty tied in place since the break. It may have only been a day and a half :o I'll try to get better pics here in a few.

mandalaman · Jan 13, 2017

Ok, here are some pics from just now. I tried to get more detail of the branch I had a snapsident with. :cool:

Group shot

Look at the muscles on her

This is where the stem snapped .. I think they might snap back but maybe one more day and we know for sure?

Right one

Left one

mandalaman · Jan 13, 2017

Now some more random photos I took just now.

Boy Scout Cookies coco

Amnesia Haze - getting these weird orange patches which look like they'll turn necrotic on me. I raised the light up a little bit. They were in the light without a fan for a few hours last night. What do you think @EventHorizan and @rmoltis ?