That’s dope man! I’m on the same mission you are I too am pollen chucking a bunch of strains. Cant wait to see your picks hopefully you find a magic phenoI think I got a strain I put together that's going to blow people's minds when they smoke it, I will post pictures when I decide to do my next indoor grow. It's Jedi glue crossed with death star which gave me Jedi death star, I only got 5 seeds but only need one when it comes time to grow her.
Wow for a first post you really went all out. I guess Kevin Jodrey must have triggered you. Take it easy Will Smith you come in here slapping everyone like you own the place.You've described run of the mill polyhybrid herb from the era. Too much flavor. No direction in breeding because it all came out overly dank and complex.
Back before the Dutch CalMaggots moved in and ruined every American's herb with bs grow info. Stinky weed was nothing special back then. The Dutch fertilizer mafia must have had a followup meeting after green merchant failed to network the domestic dank supply. The new plan: Tell everyone that miracle gro is ruining their dank with excess nitrogen, then proceed to ruin their dank with excess cal-nit and sell them a flush/finisher/sweetener to make up for the destroyed/incomplete metabolism that resulted from the Calcium poisoning.
Don't tell me you didn't notice all the herb smellin like the sweetners when that shit showed up.. It did. Because they wiped out the natural flavors and left growers clamoring for something.
The genetics aren't the root of the problem. It's the way they've been grown since that era. Calcium toxic. High pH. No trace mins. No fats, no enzymes, no acid rain, just large amounts of sugarcane dna and tons of ground up animal bones. That's all it took to deactivate the plants ability to protect itself from photo-oxidation via thiols. Now we got playdough playtime weed. The Marijuana plant turns purple now for anti-oxidation, instead of producing thiols and glycerol esters like a Marijuana should..
People are so worried about genetically modified weed, Well there it is. Calmag killed cannabis quality. Growers should have understood that something called Sour Lemon Goat Piss is not going to like being grown in acid-neutralizing sulfur-binding potassium-excluding chalkmoss for endless generations. The enzymes to create those acidic molecules no longer exist.
Hell, most Marijuana grows are severely potassium deficient, via calcium toxicity (better dim your lights bro!) You're not going to get acidic compounds like thiols, without sufficient potassium. The modern grow scene is so far off base when it comes to basic nutritional needs. Not a single person I've met has been able to explain the virtues of calcium for cannabis. Everyone simply takes the calbait and calruins their calweed.
Ironically I'm growing 707 Cat piss right now and wanted OSC for comparison, but he only had crosses. You can tell he botched his grow with cattle bone meal.. the absolute worst form of calcium toxicity as the plant is now taking up methionine attached to cow dna,and calcium-phos-boron complexes with the fats removed. This is the #1 way to wreck Cannabis..
Only 25% of the 707 CP have a hint of a natural smell, the White Spruce/boxwood/black currant/tomcat thiol, and it's nothing exciting at all. Probably would've been more interesting without all that calcium in his soil.
Cat Piss does not smell like ammonia by the way. It smells like catty thiols, p-methane-8-thiol-3-one for example, often mixed with carboxlic acids and the esters released from those compounds upon oxidation. Too many people these days confuse dank with trash... Ammonia..? Have you actually smelled ammonia? Weed does not smell like ammonia. Calnit being ferments by mold does though. (Make sure to night harvest and keep the humidity up yall lol)
No other flavorcentric industry is as confused about the entire focus of their craft. It's pretty sad that Kevin Jodrey is seen as some sort of weed growing hero. Lots of people end up dead raided disbarred banned bugged out and jailed around him. Lots of dead medical breeders in Norcal.. Even one who specifically gave Jodrey an untainted 80s skunk project that went hush the day Jodrey made a deal with a large commercial grower with a similar "kingpin out in the open for decades now gone legal while the rest of you still getting busted" history.
Most of what Jodrey says is bullshit, that only young naive forum growers would buy. He says he invented the dab rig in 2014 for Christ's sake.. When people say obvious bullshit like that, they are scaring off the critics and keeping the gullible around. Classic cult tactic. No one qualified to teach a cannabis school would classify skunk as an ester, or claim that kief is referring to the resin portion of a dry sift. I would say he simply took a boomer fake it til you make it dvd course to get a nursery deal, but shit man, I've heard of people sending him old genetics and they disappear faster than skunkmans actually skunky skunk did.
The sulfur component is the main aspect. 3-methyl-2-butene-1-thiol aka Skunk, is a terpenoid, an ester, and a thiol, but call it a thiol if you don't want to get laughed at moving forward. The flavor industry is well developed outside of Cannabis. The people calling everything a terpene are the ones selling bottled fruit scrap waste as flavor additives. Those 16 or so trash terpenes. The legal industry don't care how shitty the weed is, they'll just sweeten it. The terpene con is just about up and no one batted an eye. Worried about vitamin 3 while vaping floor cleaner.. They've made billions off of distillate with lemon peels in it.. Time to start recreating actual flavors lol. Citrus does not taste like limonene.. There are thiols and acids in citrus fruit that give its flavor and aroma.. The peel is the chaff, the kief, not the fruit.. Weird times to be alive, when these ancient objective concepts can be turned upside down at the whim of commercial interests..
Most ppl are to scared to speak out i seen tons of bullshit in this game i went to a seminar kevin was having and some of the things he was saying was blowing my mind and that voice he kept freaking me out like a was on a series of the munsters i paid over a hundred bucks to hear what i left feeling like i was cheated and drove 2 hrs to get to the seminar i think everyone there was confused he kept going in circles and nothing made sense so then he went to his war story play book to make the ppl think he was a billy th3 kid out law but nothing about what he was doing was under the law if you ask me from some of the stories he told that he might of been an informant just my thinking i mean he tells these stories and everyone ends up in jail but he just so happens to get away .i would go to a free event of this guy talking again i could of got similiar stories by getting together with a few grow buddies and passing around a stogy....great post by the way i respect ppl who stand up and speak there mind .. thank you for that ...You've described run of the mill polyhybrid herb from the era. Too much flavor. No direction in breeding because it all came out overly dank and complex.
Back before the Dutch CalMaggots moved in and ruined every American's herb with bs grow info. Stinky weed was nothing special back then. The Dutch fertilizer mafia must have had a followup meeting after green merchant failed to network the domestic dank supply. The new plan: Tell everyone that miracle gro is ruining their dank with excess nitrogen, then proceed to ruin their dank with excess cal-nit and sell them a flush/finisher/sweetener to make up for the destroyed/incomplete metabolism that resulted from the Calcium poisoning.
Don't tell me you didn't notice all the herb smellin like the sweetners when that shit showed up.. It did. Because they wiped out the natural flavors and left growers clamoring for something.
The genetics aren't the root of the problem. It's the way they've been grown since that era. Calcium toxic. High pH. No trace mins. No fats, no enzymes, no acid rain, just large amounts of sugarcane dna and tons of ground up animal bones. That's all it took to deactivate the plants ability to protect itself from photo-oxidation via thiols. Now we got playdough playtime weed. The Marijuana plant turns purple now for anti-oxidation, instead of producing thiols and glycerol esters like a Marijuana should..
People are so worried about genetically modified weed, Well there it is. Calmag killed cannabis quality. Growers should have understood that something called Sour Lemon Goat Piss is not going to like being grown in acid-neutralizing sulfur-binding potassium-excluding chalkmoss for endless generations. The enzymes to create those acidic molecules no longer exist.
Hell, most Marijuana grows are severely potassium deficient, via calcium toxicity (better dim your lights bro!) You're not going to get acidic compounds like thiols, without sufficient potassium. The modern grow scene is so far off base when it comes to basic nutritional needs. Not a single person I've met has been able to explain the virtues of calcium for cannabis. Everyone simply takes the calbait and calruins their calweed.
Ironically I'm growing 707 Cat piss right now and wanted OSC for comparison, but he only had crosses. You can tell he botched his grow with cattle bone meal.. the absolute worst form of calcium toxicity as the plant is now taking up methionine attached to cow dna,and calcium-phos-boron complexes with the fats removed. This is the #1 way to wreck Cannabis..
Only 25% of the 707 CP have a hint of a natural smell, the White Spruce/boxwood/black currant/tomcat thiol, and it's nothing exciting at all. Probably would've been more interesting without all that calcium in his soil.
Cat Piss does not smell like ammonia by the way. It smells like catty thiols, p-methane-8-thiol-3-one for example, often mixed with carboxlic acids and the esters released from those compounds upon oxidation. Too many people these days confuse dank with trash... Ammonia..? Have you actually smelled ammonia? Weed does not smell like ammonia. Calnit being ferments by mold does though. (Make sure to night harvest and keep the humidity up yall lol)
No other flavorcentric industry is as confused about the entire focus of their craft. It's pretty sad that Kevin Jodrey is seen as some sort of weed growing hero. Lots of people end up dead raided disbarred banned bugged out and jailed around him. Lots of dead medical breeders in Norcal.. Even one who specifically gave Jodrey an untainted 80s skunk project that went hush the day Jodrey made a deal with a large commercial grower with a similar "kingpin out in the open for decades now gone legal while the rest of you still getting busted" history.
Most of what Jodrey says is bullshit, that only young naive forum growers would buy. He says he invented the dab rig in 2014 for Christ's sake.. When people say obvious bullshit like that, they are scaring off the critics and keeping the gullible around. Classic cult tactic. No one qualified to teach a cannabis school would classify skunk as an ester, or claim that kief is referring to the resin portion of a dry sift. I would say he simply took a boomer fake it til you make it dvd course to get a nursery deal, but shit man, I've heard of people sending him old genetics and they disappear faster than skunkmans actually skunky skunk did.
The sulfur component is the main aspect. 3-methyl-2-butene-1-thiol aka Skunk, is a terpenoid, an ester, and a thiol, but call it a thiol if you don't want to get laughed at moving forward. The flavor industry is well developed outside of Cannabis. The people calling everything a terpene are the ones selling bottled fruit scrap waste as flavor additives. Those 16 or so trash terpenes. The legal industry don't care how shitty the weed is, they'll just sweeten it. The terpene con is just about up and no one batted an eye. Worried about vitamin 3 while vaping floor cleaner.. They've made billions off of distillate with lemon peels in it.. Time to start recreating actual flavors lol. Citrus does not taste like limonene.. There are thiols and acids in citrus fruit that give its flavor and aroma.. The peel is the chaff, the kief, not the fruit.. Weird times to be alive, when these ancient objective concepts can be turned upside down at the whim of commercial interests..
Spell check that wasMost ppl are to scared to speak out i seen tons of bullshit in this game i went to a seminar kevin was having and some of the things he was saying was blowing my mind and that voice he kept freaking me out like a was on a series of the munsters i paid over a hundred bucks to hear what i left feeling like i was cheated and drove 2 hrs to get to the seminar i think everyone there was confused he kept going in circles and nothing made sense so then he went to his war story play book to make the ppl think he was a billy th3 kid out law but nothing about what he was doing was under the law if you ask me from some of the stories he told that he might of been an informant just my thinking i mean he tells these stories and everyone ends up in jail but he just so happens to get away .i would go to a free event of this guy talking again i could of got similiar stories by getting together with a few grow buddies and passing around a stogy....great post by the way i respect ppl who stand up and speak there mind .. thank you for that ...
I done already told you mayne. AK BEAN BRAINSLooks killer man good job! Was it straight deathstar seeds or a cross when you started it? I was looking online I heard Mota has a killer Ohio deathstar however when I did the search I was only finding strains that had the deathstar in the cross but not pure deathstar. Like the ones below...
Mota Rebel - Kyber Crystal - Regular Seeds - Neptune Seed Bank
Kyber Crystal from Mota Rebel - 10 Regular Seeds Per Pack. Lineage: Black Berrium x Chem91 SKVA / Deathstar BX1. Indica / Sativa: 90/10. 63-70 Daysneptuneseedbank.com
Mota Rebel - Warp Drive - Regular Seeds - Neptune Seed Bank
Warp Drive from Mota Rebel - 10 Regular Seeds Per Pack. Lineage: Mule Fuel x Chem91 SKVA / Deathstar BX1. Indica / Sativa: 90/10. Flowering Time: 63-70 Daysneptuneseedbank.com
Anyone know where you can get straight Ohio Deathstar uncrossed? The real original is what I am interested in.
Sorry brother the reason why I didn't mention AKBB is because I did a search for the Deathstar on their website and I swear I didn't see it before. But then just now I did a deeper google search and you are correct they do have it! Maybe I was tripping or maybe the website wasn't updated. Either way I stand corrected they do have the deathstar. Found it on JBC...I done already told you mayne. AK BEAN BRAINS
I said mota has a few nice crosses. But AKBB has the pure.
Yeah Im pretty sure the original RKS from Kentucky/Ohio region had sativa in it. This is true. I believe your story there was amazing skunk in that region around that era. I just wish I was born a little earlier to experience it all. Dam it LOL!Last time I saw RKS in my neck of the woods, Eastern Kentucky was in 1984. My buddy grew it from 1979-1984, and he got ratted out, and the cops got it. Never saw it again.
The original genetics came fro Meigs County Ohio, which at the time was known as the Humboldt County of the East. The was a Sativa Dominant strain with big, long skinny leaves. The plants could get 10 feet tall. As best as my buddy can remember he was told it had Kerela in it, but was also srossed with something else he doesnt remember.
I wouldnt doubt Deathstar came from Meigs County.
The sativa back in the '90s when I grew it in Ohio was called the zebra. Long skinny fan leaves and I had plants over 12 feet tall. Also was growing the skunk with it in my grows.Yeah Im pretty sure the original RKS from Kentucky/Ohio region had sativa in it. This is true. I believe your story there was amazing skunk in that region around that era. I just wish I was born a little earlier to experience it all. Dam it LOL!
And the 4 sections of flavor? Earth, floral, fruit, and gas? Not sure it's that simple. She has so much we havent even experienced yet. Not impressed that she is simplified to one person's idea, and then passed around as law.Just went to the regenerative conference in michigan. Paid 5 hundo. Didnt learn much new info. And cold af. Unheated building. Wished I didnt go.
So how do we fix it?You've described run of the mill polyhybrid herb from the era. Too much flavor. No direction in breeding because it all came out overly dank and complex.
Back before the Dutch CalMaggots moved in and ruined every American's herb with bs grow info. Stinky weed was nothing special back then. The Dutch fertilizer mafia must have had a followup meeting after green merchant failed to network the domestic dank supply. The new plan: Tell everyone that miracle gro is ruining their dank with excess nitrogen, then proceed to ruin their dank with excess cal-nit and sell them a flush/finisher/sweetener to make up for the destroyed/incomplete metabolism that resulted from the Calcium poisoning.
Don't tell me you didn't notice all the herb smellin like the sweetners when that shit showed up.. It did. Because they wiped out the natural flavors and left growers clamoring for something.
The genetics aren't the root of the problem. It's the way they've been grown since that era. Calcium toxic. High pH. No trace mins. No fats, no enzymes, no acid rain, just large amounts of sugarcane dna and tons of ground up animal bones. That's all it took to deactivate the plants ability to protect itself from photo-oxidation via thiols. Now we got playdough playtime weed. The Marijuana plant turns purple now for anti-oxidation, instead of producing thiols and glycerol esters like a Marijuana should..
People are so worried about genetically modified weed, Well there it is. Calmag killed cannabis quality. Growers should have understood that something called Sour Lemon Goat Piss is not going to like being grown in acid-neutralizing sulfur-binding potassium-excluding chalkmoss for endless generations. The enzymes to create those acidic molecules no longer exist.
Hell, most Marijuana grows are severely potassium deficient, via calcium toxicity (better dim your lights bro!) You're not going to get acidic compounds like thiols, without sufficient potassium. The modern grow scene is so far off base when it comes to basic nutritional needs. Not a single person I've met has been able to explain the virtues of calcium for cannabis. Everyone simply takes the calbait and calruins their calweed.
Ironically I'm growing 707 Cat piss right now and wanted OSC for comparison, but he only had crosses. You can tell he botched his grow with cattle bone meal.. the absolute worst form of calcium toxicity as the plant is now taking up methionine attached to cow dna,and calcium-phos-boron complexes with the fats removed. This is the #1 way to wreck Cannabis..
Only 25% of the 707 CP have a hint of a natural smell, the White Spruce/boxwood/black currant/tomcat thiol, and it's nothing exciting at all. Probably would've been more interesting without all that calcium in his soil.
Cat Piss does not smell like ammonia by the way. It smells like catty thiols, p-methane-8-thiol-3-one for example, often mixed with carboxlic acids and the esters released from those compounds upon oxidation. Too many people these days confuse dank with trash... Ammonia..? Have you actually smelled ammonia? Weed does not smell like ammonia. Calnit being ferments by mold does though. (Make sure to night harvest and keep the humidity up yall lol)
No other flavorcentric industry is as confused about the entire focus of their craft. It's pretty sad that Kevin Jodrey is seen as some sort of weed growing hero. Lots of people end up dead raided disbarred banned bugged out and jailed around him. Lots of dead medical breeders in Norcal.. Even one who specifically gave Jodrey an untainted 80s skunk project that went hush the day Jodrey made a deal with a large commercial grower with a similar "kingpin out in the open for decades now gone legal while the rest of you still getting busted" history.
Most of what Jodrey says is bullshit, that only young naive forum growers would buy. He says he invented the dab rig in 2014 for Christ's sake.. When people say obvious bullshit like that, they are scaring off the critics and keeping the gullible around. Classic cult tactic. No one qualified to teach a cannabis school would classify skunk as an ester, or claim that kief is referring to the resin portion of a dry sift. I would say he simply took a boomer fake it til you make it dvd course to get a nursery deal, but shit man, I've heard of people sending him old genetics and they disappear faster than skunkmans actually skunky skunk did.
The sulfur component is the main aspect. 3-methyl-2-butene-1-thiol aka Skunk, is a terpenoid, an ester, and a thiol, but call it a thiol if you don't want to get laughed at moving forward. The flavor industry is well developed outside of Cannabis. The people calling everything a terpene are the ones selling bottled fruit scrap waste as flavor additives. Those 16 or so trash terpenes. The legal industry don't care how shitty the weed is, they'll just sweeten it. The terpene con is just about up and no one batted an eye. Worried about vitamin 3 while vaping floor cleaner.. They've made billions off of distillate with lemon peels in it.. Time to start recreating actual flavors lol. Citrus does not taste like limonene.. There are thiols and acids in citrus fruit that give its flavor and aroma.. The peel is the chaff, the kief, not the fruit.. Weird times to be alive, when these ancient objective concepts can be turned upside down at the whim of commercial interests..
Regenerative farming. Bring the flavor back!!So how do we fix it?
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