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I agree mixing things up is the best way! And A paint sprayer ;) Or a foggerHopefully the sulfur didn't effect things so I can give a proper report of the effectiveness of Dr. Zymes. I definitely think that mixing things up is crucial to success with these bugs. I was depending too much on Avid and Forbid.
I'm going to pick up some more Dr. Zymes to treat the main garden. (Prewash to clean residue from previous Avid spraying?) Then I'm going to Met 52, Conserve SC and then Movento.
As a circa '70s trained biologist, I can't see how frass could 'supercharge' an enzyme tea.
Frass would feed microbes, and perhaps allow some of the enzymes to work, but creating more active enzymes is unlikely.
It's more likely that the microbes will eat your enzymes.
I agree mixing things up is the best way! And A paint sprayer ;) Or a fogger
Cant hurt to wash em down the morning before spraying in the evening.
That Movento is a systemic, I didnt read anyfurther..is that for late in bloom?
If you used the avid correctly it should still be killing or at least paralyzing them.
And, the forbid should have killed the eggs
Like Cannacrone said...The spray method seems to make the difference.
it case some folks missed it, Here is what I didStill seeing them under the scope at reduced numbers. What should I do??? please help. Outdoor in southern oregon
morning july 29th,(day 1) I sprayed Aspirin (325mg per gal.) and SM90(couple cap fulls per 4gal bucket)
Then, that evening I sprayed Azamax (1.2ml per gal) and soil drenched with it and 325mg per gal aspirin too.
The plants looked better the next day! :)
Then, I waited till aug.1st (day 4) and I sprayed azamax and sm90 early in the morning.(it was cloudy)
On aug. 2nd, I sprayed with Caps Biowar foliar and seagreen.
On the 3rd, I suited up in tyvek, wore goggles, gloves and a respirator, Then,
I sprayed Avid and SM90
On the 4th (Day 7) I sprayed Biowar foliar and Seagreen again because they seem to like that..and they were all growing new leaves! :)
I rested on the 5th :)
Then, in the morning, aug. 6th, day 9
I sprayed Both, Avid(1.2ml per gal) and Forbidf4((1.2ml per gal) and a few caps of sm90 all at the same time.
24 hours later,
the next morning (day 10) i rinsed them off real good, and then used the Met52 ec. That stuff is strange and im not sure if I even did that well..
shit wouldn't stay mixed, i had to keep mixing it. (need to try again later)
,Aug. 8th (day11) I sprayed the Flying skull Nuke em.
Then, I broke out the Met52ec again, and sprayed it a couple more times also.
I used a whole package of actinovate sprayed and drenched
Now im spraying spinosad and BT to prevent bud worms
I've been told that the azamax has anti-fungal properties and therefor impedes the work of Caps foliar spray or Met 52it case some folks missed it, He is what I did
When I went to the Emerald Cup last year, the guy who runs... aw fuck... a frass supply outfit (I am TOTALLY blanking out on the name of the company!) he told me to do a 2hr brew on the frass because at the 2hr mark a particular species of bacteria (again, more brainfarting here) would be cultured at that point. No more time would be needed, according to him, and less time wouldn't give the populations. IIRC (puff puff!), it's a bacterium that affects/attenuates SARS.As a circa '70s trained biologist, I can't see how frass could 'supercharge' an enzyme tea.
Frass would feed microbes, and perhaps allow some of the enzymes to work, but creating more active enzymes is unlikely.
It's more likely that the microbes will eat your enzymes.
Well! THAT didn't take very long, did it?The Russets are developing resistance to Avid and Forbid. Others in the area are reporting the same issue. The avid knocks them down for a few days but then they come right back. The Forbid kills many eggs but not all of the eggs.
Rotation is my new focus. I'm getting more Dr. Zymes to treat the remainder of the garden tonight. Then I'l spray the frass over two nights and then spray the Met 52. Then on to the Movento and then maybe malathion.
I don't know if you noticed this, brother, but I stickied yer shit. :D Yer all sticky!it case some folks missed it, Here is what I did
Your problem will be solved on Tuesday! Post back on the results bro! I know you will be happy. People are being Converted slowly but everyone who has used the Conserve with 100% success and 100% conversion.
Oh yeah @nightmarecreature I used 5 mL/ gal combined with surfactant.
It worked for me and atleast 10 other people. There is nothing it doesn't kill. Mites, Russets,Aphids,Thrips. I can get so many people to come on here and vouch for the Conserve. Its made specifically for Agro.
It does control Two Spotted, it's right around 99%.I dunked my plants in conserve on Monday and today they are still cruising. I didn't see 2 spotted on the label though.
Dont know if this will help you but I was ready to cut all my stuff down a month ago till I used some Conserve SC my boy @TSTEW313 hooked me up with. I have to say the shit is not cheap but it worked on my spider mite problem 2wks into flower. I am now going imtp the 6th wk and the plant looks great! Good luck hope you find a solution..
Here is the info about Conserve its worth the try.
http://msdssearch.dow.com/Published...turf/pdfs/noreg/010-60273.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc
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