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Seedling problem . What to do

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I figured it out myself.
 

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goodbye95 said:
Yes. I use liquid organic nutes.
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Do you understand that you are overfeeding it everytime and that is why you need runoff?
Soil IS food and when you add nutes, you are overloading the plant.
When you give too much it can cause the plant to lock out other nutrients and that leads to dead plants.

Think of it this way, you are stuck in a sealed room and someone comes and gives you a wheelbarrow of food. You eat as much as you can but its way too much. Over time they keep bringing more and more and it builds up and eventually rises over your head and you drown or suffocate. That's what feeding in soil does. That's why you have to water to runoff because if you don't, you're going to need a flush. Flushing is bad.

I usually recommend that combo-growers cut the feed amounts in half and add mycos to the soil. As the mycos build and take over, you can cut the nutes even more.

In our grows the only time we have feed issues is when we try to add more than the plant needs. Because we let the soil do the feeding, its stable and 99% problem free.
 
#124
Ganjadad said:
I always start seeds off in a smaller pot that way when they stretch I can burry most of the stem. When they are that tall a skinny itā€™s risky they canā€™t support themselves
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A fan aimed at the wall near the plant will solve that. Burying it too deep can cause it to stunt. VERY light breeze on the plant. Just enough to wiggle the leaves.
 
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ComfortablyNumb said:
Do you understand that you are overfeeding it everytime and that is why you need runoff?
Soil IS food and when you add nutes, you are overloading the plant.
When you give too much it can cause the plant to lock out other nutrients and that leads to dead plants.

Think of it this way, you are stuck in a sealed room and someone comes and gives you a wheelbarrow of food. You eat as much as you can but its way too much. Over time they keep bringing more and more and it builds up and eventually rises over your head and you drown or suffocate. That's what feeding in soil does. That's why you have to water to runoff because if you don't, you're going to need a flush. Flushing is bad.

I usually recommend that combo-growers cut the feed amounts in half and add mycos to the soil. As the mycos build and take over, you can cut the nutes even more.

In our grows the only time we have feed issues is when we try to add more than the plant needs. Because we let the soil do the feeding, its stable and 99% problem free.
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I know. That is why i runoff too. I runoff about 20- 30 % of what i give every time. If the runoff ppm is higher than the nutes solution i may runoff until i get it to the ppm of the solution or even lower. And next time i feed less until i see the runoff ppm be at least lower than the ppm of the feeding solution. I do not know if that is bad or not.
 
#128
goodbye95 said:
If the runoff ppm is higher than the nutes solution i may runoff until i get it to the ppm of the solution or even lower. And next time i feed less until i see the runoff ppm be at least lower than the ppm of the feeding solution. I do not know if that is bad or not.
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If runoff is higher, then quit feeding it. That means the soil either needs a flush or its feeding plant like its supposed to.
Either way, you are quite likely causing the issue by overfeeding. If you want to feed, then grow in coco, not soil.

Yes, yes I know many people do feed in soil, but how often do they have to correct something... add mag... add sulfur... add this... add that...
 
#129
ComfortablyNumb said:
If runoff is higher, then quit feeding it. That means the soil either needs a flush or its feeding plant like its supposed to.
Either way, you are quite likely causing the issue by overfeeding. If you want to feed, then grow in coco, not soil.

Yes, yes I know many people do feed in soil, but how often do they have to correct something... add mag... add sulfur... add this... add that...
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So when should i use nutes in soil then. I suppose at a time the nutes are gonna come to an end.
 
#130
ComfortablyNumb said:
A fan aimed at the wall near the plant will solve that. Burying it too deep can cause it to stunt. VERY light breeze on the plant. Just enough to wiggle the leaves.
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Yeah thatā€™s true, Iā€™ve never had an issue with them getting stunted doing so. Air movement is definitely something to have for that reason and others. Silica is also a good thing to strengthen the plants
 
#134
I have seen a guy named Mr Cunacks on youtube. He does some pretty wild stuff compared to my knowldge. From what i have u
Goodshit97 said:
Are you feeding every time you water?
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yes . that is what the company instructs . I use both their soil and their nutes
They are called BIO BIZZ . I use their Light - mix soil ( ec of 1.2 )
 
#136
Ganjadad said:
Look into brewing teas for soil.
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This is the only time you should add nutes. And you only need it maybe 3 times during the whole plants life cycle. The only time we ever feed is if there is a real problem with the soil. Since we mix our own, we don't have those problems.
 
#137
goodbye95 said:
I have seen a guy named Mr Cunacks on youtube. He does some pretty wild stuff compared to my knowldge. From what i have u

yes . that is what the company instructs . I use both their soil and their nutes
They are called BIO BIZZ . I use their Light - mix soil ( ec of 1.2 )
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Not familiar with biobizz at all but i wouldnt listen to that. Seems like they just want you to buy more nutes. I feed maybe once a week after 6 to 7 weeks of just giving water. Most soils have enough to get you 4-6 weeks of veg with no nutes. Im now thinking you might have a build up causing nutrients to lock themselves out.
 
#139
I have seen a guy on youtube. He is called Mr Cunacks and he is based on Canada . He is a soil feeder and a coco feeder.
When he is using soil he is mixing it with with worm castings ( worm humus is called in EU) in a ratio of 20-30% perlite 10-20% worm castings and rest is soil. He adds a dose of 4-4-4 dry amendments ( dry amendments is the tea you saying ?? i do not know ) and he just waters till the end. When he transplants he puts some Myco at the sides of the soil cake and then repots to bigger pots. He adds then again dry amendments of Flowering nutes and just keeps on only watering at a ph of 6.4 to 6.8 till the end of the grow. I have not seen better results with this method on youtube. Crazy buds. What are your opinions on this feeding method?
 
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