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Weeblek · Apr 25, 2023

TSD said:
Yes. Check the moisture level towards the bottom like third of the pot, if the probe isn't long enough, you can stab a hole in the side of the pot to test. Fabric dries back a bit faster than conventional nursery pots, but I've gone up to 9 days between waterings with small plants in one gallon plastic with many added holes all over, they don't use much water at that stage and if your humidity is up like it should be, drying takes quite a while. Don't just go by time though, because that changes with environment and plant size and stage. Water slowly, if your pot is dry enough, it should take about 1/3 of the soil volume in water to saturate. If you go too fast, you can get runoff when it's not actually saturated because water takes the path of least resistance, which is usually down the side of the pot between the soil and pot. You don't want a ton of runoff, especially if you're doing organics, just enough to know it's thoroughly wet. I usually give them a bit, walk away so it can slowly saturate, come back a while later and give a bit more. I let mine sit in a drip tray while I water, they will suck the runoff back up if they are not saturated, if it stays in the tray for some time, they're full, I tip them to let a bit drip out so I don't make a mess and put them back... you can't really do that easily w Fabric though, the tipping part.
You want the meter in the red dry zone, not moist... I usually let it get to like a 2 on the 1-10 scale... this next time I will be letting them wilt before I water because I have lovely fungus gnats and I would like them to die lol.

Great info on the process there. Thanks. Still gotta see the link left earlier. I can always build something that will allow me to set them at an slant when watering as opposed tilting them. I'm good at building stuff and always have spare pallets lying around when I need them. Yuck Gnats! I hope to avoid them and any bugs. It's actually kind of cold here tight now. My humidity is low. Around 44%. Temp currently at 60° in the tent. Pretty sure this is the lowest the temp has been. But it is very cold throughout the house today. I will zip it up all around to see it get warmer in there. - WeebleK

TSD · Apr 25, 2023

One more thing if you can, get them up on risers if they aren't, I can't tell for sure, so there is a bit of airflow under the pots and they are not sitting directly on the floor, which can be colder and make the roots a little sad. You can use anything you have around or buy something specifically for that, I use baking cooling racks, I think GNick uses golf balls in trays. This will also help in the dry back... just don't forget to account for the extra height with the light. I'm sure they will recover and start to grow nicely, those leds are deceivingly strong. These girls can take a lot of abuse, trust me, I'm not the most delicate gardener lol.

Weeblek · Apr 25, 2023

TSD said:
One more thing if you can, get them up on risers if they aren't, I can't tell for sure, so there is a bit of airflow under the pots and they are not sitting directly on the floor, which can be colder and make the roots a little sad. You can use anything you have around or buy something specifically for that, I use baking cooling racks, I think GNick uses golf balls in trays. This will also help in the dry back... just don't forget to account for the extra height with the light. I'm sure they will recover and start to grow nicely, those leds are deceivingly strong. These girls can take a lot of abuse, trust me, I'm not the most delicate gardener lol.

Awesome. Thanks. I will build something today. Also going to weigh the bag and try to get a standard dry weight on them as soon as they are dry enough yo water again. - WeebleK

TSD · Apr 25, 2023

Definitely try to get the temp up, that's cold for wee ones, they like high 70s low 80s and humidity in the high 50s, low 60s at this stage. And I don't tilt while I'm watering, just after to drain a little off by tipping the water table, it helps in not having post watering drippage all over the place lol.

Scotty420 · Apr 25, 2023

Weeblek said:
Yeah, I coulda searched it. You're right. I was just saying how bad the service I got was. Thanks! Ooops! - WeebleK

Honestly I meant if their customer service wasn't complete shit they would have emailed you over a copy. You shouldn't have had to look for yourself

Weeblek · Apr 25, 2023

Yeah, I turned my heat on and shut up the tent. This is unusual for us. It's been in the 70-80's for a couple of weeks now until today. Currently the inside tent temp is at 68° and 46% humidity. I will put a space heater in there before the lights go out at 430 and leave it on until our temps warm up some. It has a thermostat so I'll set that at like 78°.

Yeah, they really dropped the ball. Heck there was even some random material that the tent is made of in with the light when it came. Like 2- 4'x 5" strips of material! Smh. What's up with that!?!?!?
- WeebleK

Scotty420 · Apr 25, 2023

Weeblek said:
Yeah, they really dropped the ball. Heck there was even some random material that the tent is made of in with the light when it came. Like 2- 4'x 5" strips of material! Smh. What's up with that!?!?!?
- WeebleK

Yeah that's probably a dead giveaway that it was returned. They send those strips out with the tents in case you need to make a repair. I have a strip floating around my grow room somewhere. It was probably bought as a kit & someone put something in the wrong box when they repackaged it. Your light's user manual is probably in someone's tent package.

Weeblek · Apr 25, 2023

Ah! That does make sense.

MIGrampaUSA · Apr 25, 2023

Weeblek said:
Ah! That does make sense.

It sounds like you've gotten a lot of things sorted out for the time being.

I think in one of your posts you mentioned having a moisture meter. It's a great tool to have in your tool box! Water thoroughly like the others have mentioned ... you can stop when you see run-off. Then don't water again until the pot is light and the moisture meter reads "dry." Keep the lights at 25% for now. Your plants might take a bit to respond.

Be patient when it comes to watering. Those large pots will take a while to dry back. It could be a week or more between watering. Once your plants have some size and a good root structure, they will begin to need water more often. Once you begin to get multiple sets of leaves on your lateral branches, you can begin to add light intensity.

If you have any questions as you move forward, post them here in your thread. There's enough experienced growers here that someone will help you out.

BigBlonde · Apr 25, 2023

Weeblek said:
I definitely have to figure out this "quote" thing. -WeebleK

I mostly use a web browser, so I can't advise about using a phone.

The browser version has some nice features. It seems you've already found the easiest way to quote, which is to click the quote or reply button. To quote part of a post, select the text you want to quote, and you should see a context menu with options to either quote or reply to the selected text. It should look like this:

You can select multiple quotations and insert them into a new post using the "Insert quotes..." button that will appear when there are quotes available.

citrus7144 · Apr 25, 2023

I would agree keep the light down and raise it up to about 18 inches give or take. Don't feed them and let them just run for a week or so, I always find we as growers tend to over think and over do stuff trying to correct problems. My ma always told me with plants less is more and keep it simple until you have a solid understanding of the problem. Good luck and have fun with it !
Citrus7144

Weeblek · Apr 26, 2023

MIGrampaUSA said:
It sounds like you've gotten a lot of things sorted out for the time being.

I think in one of your posts you mentioned having a moisture meter. It's a great tool to have in your tool box! Water thoroughly like the others have mentioned ... you can stop when you see run-off. Then don't water again until the pot is light and the moisture meter reads "dry." Keep the lights at 25% for now. Your plants might take a bit to respond.

Be patient when it comes to watering. Those large pots will take a while to dry back. It could be a week or more between watering. Once your plants have some size and a good root structure, they will begin to need water more often. Once you begin to get multiple sets of leaves on your lateral branches, you can begin to add light intensity.

If you have any questions as you move forward, post them here in your thread. There's enough experienced growers here that someone will help you out.

That's awesome. Thanks so much for your and everybody's help. I do feel SOOO much better after having posted here and by the response I was given, and my plants look so much better already. I just can't thank y'all enough. - WeebleK

Weeblek · Apr 26, 2023

citrus7144 said:
I would agree keep the light down and raise it up to about 18 inches give or take. Don't feed them and let them just run for a week or so, I always find we as growers tend to over think and over do stuff trying to correct problems. My ma always told me with plants less is more and keep it simple until you have a solid understanding of the problem. Good luck and have fun with it !
Citrus7144

Thanks!!! - WeebleK

Weeblek · May 3, 2023

Hey you guys. My humidity has still been low, in the mid 30's to upper 40's at any given time, but rarely over 50%. So I thought it was a good idea to look into getting a Humidifier. Well, who knew that there were so many different types? Not this girl.
So at Walmart today and the girl showed me the only 2 available in the whole store and they are Cool Mist ones. I think they probably want warm mist but really don't know and since these were only 10 bucks I bought both. If they are wrong I can just resell on my eBay. Are they going to do the job I need them to do, or do I need the warm mist one?

Thanks- WeebleK

Ponky · May 3, 2023

Those just make water stains. The canopy and soil ratio either needs to be adjusted. Or the lung room. Humidifier in a tent is a bad idea. Need to be humidity adjusted prior to being intaked by the fan.

Weeblek · May 3, 2023

I don't really understand any of that. However, I did out it in there shortly after making the comment, of course ready to pull it in the event that it's a problem, thed Humidity in these oast couple of hours has risen to 64%. I think that's the highest it's been yet. Well above the Too of 50% I had had before this.

But hey, I am totally interested in what exactly the Canopy to Soil Ratio is, as well as what a Lung Room is and also how the Humidity gets adjusted prior to intaking air. School Me Please? All these are terms out together that don't make sense to me just yet. - WeebleK

TSD · May 3, 2023

Lung room is the room your tent is in that the air in the tent is exchanged with... most people try to regulate the environment of the room then exchange that air with the tent... it's just easier than trying to regulate a small space like a tent that has constant airflow in and out and trying to stuff a humidifier, heater, etc all in the tent with the plants. Humidifier in the tent will make condensation on the walls that can turn to mold as well.

Ponky · May 3, 2023

You want there to be the right amount of vegetation. Not over packed. In the ideal VPD range. Where you seek a balance and the humidity controls itself. Temperature you control. Matching to the humidity you have until the plants are thriving and they should regulate themselves fairly well.

Scotty420 · May 3, 2023

I have a warm mist humidifier in my tent, hooked to the AC infinity controller 69. Maintains 63-67% humidity, the only time I ever got condensation on the walls was before I got the piece needed to control it with the Controller 69 & humidity got above 85%. It's something I'll stop using as they get bigger because they need lower humidity (more like 50%) & they will actually start putting off a decent amount of moisture. So I may end up getting a dehumidifier later.

Granted I'm new as well, so take my advice with a grain of salt but my babies seem to be loving their nice humidified air.

Weeblek · May 3, 2023

Thanks y'all. For now I really haven't a choice if the Humidity needs to be so high. The tent is in my bedroom and while I don't sleep there every day, it doubles as my hideout.

So y'all say that once they get so big, if they get big, they won't need the humidity as high? It oughta kinda work out ok if that's the case.

This is my first grow and provided everything works out well then I will be able to make improvements for #2.

- WeebleK

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