Steamrollers little hide away pt 1

steamroller · Mar 24, 2022

It's probably a close toss up . Chicks got 2 of my favorite things !
Lights are up and in and on and I am heading out to get CO2 and hardware to reconfigure the lights !
The rail going across the room kills me .I knew this would be but was waiting to get there .
I am going to cut each rail in half making each light 2@ about 2x4. Drawn to the walls this will allow me a walk trail down the middle .
Here's some pics ;
Again the transformer for scale [ knee high on the short guy !]

I'll be back with my questions and few more pics ,off to hardware store !

Maxwax · Mar 24, 2022

I had to go back and make sure I read correctly that this is your second indoor grow. Hells bells old man. Looking great! That FC 8000 should crank. I have a FC-E 4800 and I have as much PPFD/Umol as Ill ever need. More than Ill ever need.

Shaded_One · Mar 24, 2022

Have you checked the PAR on those new bar LED's? They seem really really close to the canopy at their current setup height. Are you actually going to chop them in half?? lol

Maxwax · Mar 24, 2022

Maxwax said:
Its temporary. He has them as high as they will go for now and I guarantee theyre no where near full power.. Cutting them and making a channel down the middle should work.

steamroller · Mar 24, 2022

The lights have really been cut in half ! Well the bar that makes the fixture 45 inches . Now each fixture is about 20 inches with 4 bars on each .
Using the photone app I will say I see no difference at all for PAR or LUX !! ??
Not real sure what to make of it . The reading would not go over the reading at canopy[ 826] no matter how much closer I held the phone to the light ? That makes no sense to me unless the app or my phone is limited .
That being said I left them pretty close .
Can't load pics now for some reason , so we will try later .
Going to start a thread on VPD question I have ,the other questions will wait for pics .
It's almost Friday !

steamroller · Mar 24, 2022

Pics are ready

Nothing like voiding the warranty on day 1 !
I'll give them another trim and adjust hook placement to get them closer to the wall.
Leaves me a 12 inch path I stand erect !
Got to say The TSL 2000 are way more convenient space wise, but these to offer a larger foot print at least .
Room is running a little warmer at 83 with fan running fresh air . So holding off on CO2 till weekend when I can complete all this and see at least 1 days worth of behavior
All lights are 100%
Need to hook up the re circulating cooler I mentioned before [ procrastinators 101 says mention things before other make you answer ].

Ok here is a couple of the plants in their fading colors .
Is there something that I should have done better to prevent or delay ?

I am not worried as my first grow did this also .
I am just wondering if there is something here for me to learn ?
I am on Fox Farm ferts full boar [ full dose] as per feed chart with cal/mag .

Wellrooted · Mar 24, 2022

steamroller said:
I'll be transplanting the clones to 1g pots tomorrow I think.
Hoping they fit in the tent ! I have like 20 that did well and few that are rough but I will count it as a success for my first clones .
I'll do weekend / 5 week update tomorrow when it is raining .
Going to put the top and go for a cruze I think !
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What kinda drop top you got?

Maxwax · Mar 24, 2022

steamroller said:
The lights have really been cut in half ! Well the bar that makes the fixture 45 inches . Now each fixture is about 20 inches with 4 bars on each .
Using the photone app I will say I see no difference at all for PAR or LUX !! ??
Not real sure what to make of it . The reading would not go over the reading at canopy[ 826] no matter how much closer I held the phone to the light ? That makes no sense to me unless the app or my phone is limited .
That being said I left them pretty close .
Can't load pics now for some reason , so we will try later .
Going to start a thread on VPD question I have ,the other questions will wait for pics .
It's almost Friday !

Make sure your diffuser is in place right. IDK

Maxwax · Mar 24, 2022

Did you file the edges of those razor blades? lol If thats your permanent grow space Id saw off another four inches. Or buy some bandaids and mercurochrome.

Ph 007 · Mar 25, 2022

steamroller said:
It's probably a close toss up . Chicks got 2 of my favorite things !
Lights are up and in and on and I am heading out to get CO2 and hardware to reconfigure the lights !
The rail going across the room kills me .I knew this would be but was waiting to get there .
I am going to cut each rail in half making each light 2@ about 2x4. Drawn to the walls this will allow me a walk trail down the middle .
Here's some pics ;
Again the transformer for scale [ knee high on the short guy !] View attachment 1229239
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I'll be back with my questions and few more pics ,off to hardware store !

Looking dam good man, is it a sealed room?
I want to change to a sealed room but worrie costs out more costs
I have a 500/900w dehumidifier I cause and a a.c us it 1000w but it sucks because is a portable one and it has to be vented out somewhere so get smell leaks if I use it

steamroller · Mar 25, 2022

Wellrooted said:
What kinda drop top you got?

I got two verts! A Crossfire and Corvette . It is not corvette season yet in NY .

Ph 007 said:
Looking dam good man, is it a sealed room?
I want to change to a sealed room but worrie costs out more costs
I have a 500/900w dehumidifier I cause and a a.c us it 1000w but it sucks because is a portable one and it has to be vented out somewhere so get smell leaks if I use it

The room is sealed but the cooling fan draws fresh air so not sealed until I create the continuous loop .

Ph 007 · Mar 25, 2022

Why don't your put the light drivers/ power packs outsider the room that will get the temps down

Maxwax · Mar 25, 2022

Ph 007 said:
Why don't your put the light drivers/ power packs outsider the room that will get the temps down

The cord that goes from the light to the power units not nearly long enough.

Wellrooted · Mar 25, 2022

steamroller said:
I got two verts! A Crossfire and Corvette . It is not corvette season yet in NY .

The room is sealed but the cooling fan draws fresh air so not sealed until I create the continuous loop .

That loop system sounds like a great idea. So essentially you would have the ductwork run along the outside of the room in another air conditioned room? But how cold would that room have to be to cool the ductwork enough to bring cool air back in?

Wellrooted · Mar 25, 2022

Maxwax said:
The cord that goes from the light to the power units not nearly long enough.

Not only is it not long enough but I think with these drivers on the leds you have to have that run of wire connecting them to the lights as short as possible for them to maintain efficiency. Distance from outlet to driver I don’t think matters but from driver to light does

Wellrooted · Mar 25, 2022

steamroller said:
I got two verts! A Crossfire and Corvette . It is not corvette season yet in NY .

The room is sealed but the cooling fan draws fresh air so not sealed until I create the continuous loop .

When you said drop the top and take a ride I instantly thought of this song!

Shaded_One · Mar 25, 2022

The colouring is a little worrying. Showing some signs of a possible K deficiency. Might just be a few plants that are a little hungrier.

"The change in color is generally attributed to the appearance of anthocyanin, a water-soluble pigment that plants generate either due to their genes or due to potassium deficiency, and low temperatures can also influence color change."

Shaded_One · Mar 25, 2022

"If it’s not in their genes, it could also be due to a lack of phosphorus which tends to come out during the flowering phase, maintaining a healthy green during the growth period and at around the fourth flowering week the leaves will begin turning purple, lilac or slightly red. Although, if you automatically assume that this is because of the temperature, then you’ll continue with your crop as if this feature was simply aesthetic, but it’s an easy mistake to make as your plants are actually giving you an important indication that they’re lacking something, and you’ll definitely notice it in the final yield of your crop."

Wellrooted · Mar 25, 2022

Shaded_One said:
"If it’s not in their genes, it could also be due to a lack of phosphorus which tends to come out during the flowering phase, maintaining a healthy green during the growth period and at around the fourth flowering week the leaves will begin turning purple, lilac or slightly red. Although, if you automatically assume that this is because of the temperature, then you’ll continue with your crop as if this feature was simply aesthetic, but it’s an easy mistake to make as your plants are actually giving you an important indication that they’re lacking something, and you’ll definitely notice it in the final yield of your crop."

Can you Post a link to the article you quoted from? Sounds like something worth nerding out on

Shaded_One · Mar 25, 2022

This is the one I snagged the quotes from but there are lots of articles related to leaf discoloration https://www.growbarato.net/blog/en/marijuana-colors/

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