Tea Recipe

Capulator · Nov 28, 2013

When you make a tea with the packs all of the species will initially compete for food and 02. Some will survive better than others. Remember that the packs have isolated species that you will not find in vermicompost. So in order to lessen the effects of competition and maintain max diversity out of the gate, the best thing to do it brew a short tea. 24 hours is fine, believe me you will have plenty of life and all of the species intact. However you may have more bacillus than you have pseudomonas etc...

The packs are designed to be used as a stand alone mixed in water only. Adding them to compost tea is just a compost tea super enhancer.

Also keep in mind that not all spores will come out of stasis even in a 24 hour brew. Fungal spores can sometimes take 3-4 days to germinate. Some will only germinate when they attach to a host. Mycorrhizae will ONLY come out of stasis in the presence of plant root exudates, so in a tea they are useless. This is why I recommend adding the NUTE PACK at the end of a brew or using it by itself by dusting roots, mixing it with the media, or watering in.

I am still learning a lot and I am by no means an expert on the subject. There are many members here who know far more than me. The end goal is to make successful gardeners, the natural way.

Capulator · Nov 28, 2013

I am also moving toward making my medium a safe haven for bennies as opposed to relying on tea. Right now I am mixing in alfalfa meal, EWC, and minerals in to the medium, and then I water in with a little molasses and bennies. So far my plants are looking the best ever.

donmekka · Nov 28, 2013

How does one dust roots with nute pack? Just asking because mine are extremely moist like wet sand at the beach is this ok ? I just assumed it was. Should I let them sit open and dry out?

Herb Forester · Nov 28, 2013

waayne said:
In my experience genetics and environmental conditions make quite a bit of difference ......all the Indica dominant strains I've used triacontanol on have stayed nice and dense,as well as most hybrids,Sativa dominants that tend to
have looser colas have foxtailed on me when using triacontanol past week 4 of flower.... in my environment, cooler flower room temps helped curtail the foxtailing somewhat.

I do not use triacontanol on Sativa dominant strains past week 2 now
and have tight,dense colas on them again.....

I have ran triacontanol on White Bubba and Sledgehammer Bubba til week 6 with no ill effects

Hopefully some real research will be done in this area,as some of us are having very good results on some strains with triacontanol in flower

Was your experience with foliar spraying, or did you fertigate the triacontanol? And may I ask the dosages you tried? Did you mix it from a pure powder, or was this a store bought product? Thanks for the interesting feedback.

waayne · Nov 28, 2013

Herb Forester said:
Was your experience with foliar spraying, or did you fertigate the triacontanol? And may I ask the dosages you tried? Did you mix it from a pure powder, or was this a store bought product? Thanks for the interesting feedback.

Herb I use the tea as a foliar in veg,but I stop spraying foliars in flower
I watered it into the soil during the the tea applications.......

I add 3-4 TBS of GrowMore brand Alfalfa Meal to 4 gallons of ACT

I always dilute my ACT, 8 parts water- 1 part ACT

My flowering plants are in 20 gallon containers and they get 3+ gallons each time they're watered

Capulator · Nov 29, 2013

donmekka said:
How does one dust roots with nute pack? Just asking because mine are extremely moist like wet sand at the beach is this ok ? I just assumed it was. Should I let them sit open and dry out?

nah you can still dust with it. just pour a little out and drop a wet cube on it.

You can also mix it with dechlor water in a bowl and dunk rooted cuts. This way is highly effective, since the nute pack should be applied as early as possible.

donmekka · Nov 29, 2013

Cool man thanks

GR33NL3AF · Nov 29, 2013

@donmekka ,
Did this...

Capulator said:
You can also mix it with dechlor water in a bowl and dunk rooted cuts. This way is highly effective, since the nute pack should be applied as early as possible.

Works very well...

CaliShark · Dec 2, 2013

So if I'm brewing a tea just to feed the roots/plant should I only be using only the root pack? And if I'm planning on foliar spraying/root drench I can use both root and foliar pack? The nute pack should be applied earlier on in the veg stage to colonize later in the flower stage...just wanna make sure I'm understand correctly and using them the right way. Because right now I feel like I'm wasting a lot...

Capulator · Dec 3, 2013

CaliShark said:
So if I'm brewing a tea just to feed the roots/plant should I only be using only the root pack? And if I'm planning on foliar spraying/root drench I can use both root and foliar pack? The nute pack should be applied earlier on in the veg stage to colonize later in the flower stage...just wanna make sure I'm understand correctly and using them the right way. Because right now I feel like I'm wasting a lot...

you got it.

CaliShark · Dec 3, 2013

How far into flower should I be foliar feeding? I figure by week 5 you should be cutting back as to not soak the buds. I know you say it can be used up till harvest, but when do y'all cut out the foliar? Thanks for the help...

Capulator · Dec 4, 2013

I stop foliar around week 4/5. PAst that IMHO you risk botrytis.

CaliShark · Dec 4, 2013

Word, that's what I was thinking. Thanks for the confirmation Cap. I'm 17 days in, I should have a couple more foliar applications to load up on the bennies before I cut out the foliar.

For the root pack, can I brew a tea, then add it to my jacks nute mix? Will the salts and ph of 5.8/5.9 harm the bennies? I was feeding a couple times then doing a flush with worm tea, but I don't like the fact the plants aren't being feed for the couple days the pots are drying from the tea.

Capulator · Dec 5, 2013

CaliShark said:
Word, that's what I was thinking. Thanks for the confirmation Cap. I'm 17 days in, I should have a couple more foliar applications to load up on the bennies before I cut out the foliar.

For the root pack, can I brew a tea, then add it to my jacks nute mix? Will the salts and ph of 5.8/5.9 harm the bennies? I was feeding a couple times then doing a flush with worm tea, but I don't like the fact the plants aren't being feed for the couple days the pots are drying from the tea.

yes you can do this no problem.

Fresh Starts · Dec 5, 2013

Will the brew recipe have a significant impact on PPM? I ask because somehow I brewed the recipe respectively and I got 600+ PPM coming out of my brewer? If you say no- then something went wrong with the brew process. Yikes.

Capulator · Dec 6, 2013

Fresh Starts said:
Will the brew recipe have a significant impact on PPM? I ask because somehow I brewed the recipe respectively and I got 600+ PPM coming out of my brewer? If you say no- then something went wrong with the brew process. Yikes.

Don't worry about the ppms of your tea Fresh Starts.

Fresh Starts · Dec 6, 2013

Capulator said:
Don't worry about the ppms of your tea Fresh Starts.

So is it normal to have 600+ PPM register on a .5 conversion pen
from the tea? I wonder whats in there is all.

I tried to mix jacks fertilizer into a tea batch and it had really high PPMs registering. Next time I guess I'll mix jacks in plain water first then add tea.

Thank you for being to attentive to this topic.

squiggly · Dec 6, 2013

Capulator said:
Don't worry about the ppms of your tea Fresh Starts.

PPM meters REALLY are terrible at accurate measurements in systems with even 3 or 4 different types of ions. In something like a tea they are totally unreliable. They just don't work.

Happy to explain why if you're interested.

Capulator · Dec 6, 2013

Fresh Starts said:
So is it normal to have 600+ PPM register on a .5 conversion pen
from the tea? I wonder whats in there is all.

I tried to mix jacks fertilizer into a tea batch and it had really high PPMs registering. Next time I guess I'll mix jacks in plain water first then add tea.

Thank you for being to attentive to this topic.

ALWAYS mix nutes first, then add tea. not the other way around.

Fresh Starts · Dec 7, 2013

squiggly said:
PPM meters REALLY are terrible at accurate measurements in systems with even 3 or 4 different types of ions. In something like a tea they are totally unreliable. They just don't work.

Happy to explain why if you're interested.

Sure I'd love to hear that explanation:)

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