TheCoolestMan
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I'm quite sure when we can start genetically mapping the strains that there is a common parent in chem, og, and sour d. They are all elite cuts with certain traits of the old school skunk, my nose tells me that the original rks is the grandmama to all of them!Brother UNITED thx for the clarification. I was considering SD as a bag seed somehow, although it was a done as a breeding project, Weasel let go the pound full of seeds, or patially full of seeds. He sold the buds seeded, which make it bag seeds somehow. The AJ's crew who got it are the ones who selected the SD out of those seeds. Seems like weasel didn't really care about those seeds at all or maybe he had to much to select from.
I heard those kids wanted the seeds more than the buds...
A lot of people think the 91 and the SD are over rated cuts, and don't compete with real deal OG Kush. To each is own but I agree with this too, even if both 91 and SD are very good IMO and have the legend statut in my book.
TK and the Original Kush need to be DNA tested see if there's any mom/sis link between those two. Wish we could date those clones to the day the seeds was germinated. Hopefully one day science will offer that...
Sour d can be grown to smell and smoke like old school skunk. She needs a specific regimen though, for instance, indoors she is her skunkiest when grown with no co 2, high heat (82-85), and with plenty of nutes. I have never gotten any haze from her except that she grows like a badass sativa.im with ya on the chem and og having the dogbud or whatever in common, but sour diesel always struck me as some kind of haze, i'd put money on it. it does seem like most good genetics trace back to sensi seeds stock doesnt it? i think nevil himself claimed og was a random sk#1 bagseed. i'd bet there's skunk genetics in there for sure.
You just described my room during most times ( I manage 78 degrees sometimes) and my sour diesel is real skunky almost a nasty cheese skunky with no haze influence at all. Except maybe time as she needs at least 84 daysSour d can be grown to smell and smoke like old school skunk. She needs a specific regimen though, for instance, indoors she is her skunkiest when grown with no co 2, high heat (82-85), and with plenty of nutes. I have never gotten any haze from her except that she grows like a badass sativa.
They are different for sure but directly related. Sour Diesel has Original Diesel male in it, no Haze. If you take a look at my post above the linage is broken down.i know the skunk you speak of, but i think sour diesel and original diesel are different. those original diesel traits are definitely present in somas nyc as well, and he supposedly used the original diesel or an s1 of it. definite fuely funk. the sour diesel i've seen, is much more hazy, thc in the 22% range. thinking it might be a haze cross. definitely a lot of confusion in the name.
Here I have to cordially disagree. There is only one cut of sour d, I have been growing her for a very long time and yes she came from the east coast and is now available from sf to boston but there is only one cut or pheno that is the really sour diesel.They are different for sure but directly related. Sour Diesel has Original Diesel male in it, no Haze. If you take a look at my post above the linage is broken down.
@TheCoolestMan You're spot on bro, although The Weasel did keep a bunch of beans but didn't want to be stuck with a whole half a P full of beans. He did pop some of Super Skunk x Underdog beans but didn't find a pheno quite like the Sour Diesel they handed back to him.. According to him indeed "the Kids" wanted the beans and swooped up the half a P with the quickness.... I'd assume they probably knew that The Weasel had been coming with some heat (Underdog) so they probably figured the'll find something nice in them beans, and they sure did...
On another note, The Weasel did mention he gave out many of the different phenos of his initial cross of the Chemdog 91 x Northern Lights, so this explains the different cutting of the Underdog/Original Diesel going around.. The same can be said with the different Sour Diesels, even though its unknown how many beans were popped to find the Sour D.....
Its always good to know the source of these cuts because you never know if you're working with these old gems or some recent seed finds from planned chucking or hermies..
Is the AJ's the same cut , the only cut? Just curious bro.Here I have to cordially disagree. There is only one cut of sour d, I have been growing her for a very long time and yes she came from the east coast and is now available from sf to boston but there is only one cut or pheno that is the really sour diesel.
@johnjohnn somas diesel has very little original or sour diesel in it. She is awesome and I have smoked some of his personal, it's a ruby red grapefruit with an electric hairspray back. Not sour d at all
Here I have to cordially disagree. There is only one cut of sour d, I have been growing her for a very long time and yes she came from the east coast and is now available from sf to boston but there is only one cut or pheno that is the really sour diesel.
I blame swerve for most of this mess, with people thinking there is more than 1 sour to "ajs" sour, he did this with og too as he didn't want to take the time to actually breed and started namin a bunch of f1 under different names. My friends from Santa Cruz had a homie who was very well connected on the east coast and they got some sour d clones around 05. That was the earliest I've seen it and it's the same clone worldwide. (The cut is finally in Spain and Amsterdam). Somas was an admitted s1 off of a bag of sour and when crossed with his Hawaiian male it made for an amazing strain, but he made the mistake of calling in NYC diesel, and since his strain was in fact awesome it won the cup that year. Problem was that somas literally seemed unrelated to sour and he got tons of shit from people who knew what sour was.I have a cut of Rezdog sour diesel IBL that is spot on ECSD, people who don't know they are two different cut, swear it's same one.
When Swerve came and added the Asshole Joe tag to the SD, many started to think that it was a new old cut coming up to the scene. This brought confusion as in fact it was just the ECSD. Now UNITED is correct, there's the DHK cut, which is not ECSD, and I highly doubt this is from Rezdog, but it is know as a Sour Diesel familly too.
From what I understand there's many Original Diesel clones around, which is Chemdog 91 x Nothern Light, maybe some of those got renamed Sour Diesel too, but it's just speculation from me. People could have switched from Underdog to Diesel or Sour Diesel tags cause those name brought top dollars.
In NYC top buds were often called Diesel. Even the Chemdog 91 was renamed Diesel when it reached the city. Diesel, Original Diesel, Sour Diesel and New York City Diesel. I don't know where does the DHK cut fit in here...
Soma's cut could be a different pheno, yet still from Weasel seeds or cut selection, who knows... But on a hundred plants selection u get all sorts of phenos, one could of came out more grappy and reddish...
Some suggested that the OG could be Pakistan landrace. They said that in Pakistan strains, burned rubber fuely phenos are highly present. Anyone with knowledge of Pakistan landrace strains here could shine some light maybe...
This I cannot say. I never heard the "aj" moniker before swerve made seeds of sour and used it but I'll reckon from photos that yes it is. The awesome thing about sour is it's widely available now, both dark heart nurseries and queen bee nurseries that vend to harborside have steady sour d available, and I just saw it in Barcelona recently .Is the AJ's the same cut , the only cut? Just curious bro.
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There is a super sour d that is crossed with a haze, maybe that's the one you see. Sour d does not usually hit 20% thc and when you said 22 makes me think the super sour d is the one you could be speaking of.i know the skunk you speak of, but i think sour diesel and original diesel are different. those original diesel traits are definitely present in somas nyc as well, and he supposedly used the original diesel or an s1 of it. definite fuely funk. the sour diesel i've seen, is much more hazy, thc in the 22% range. thinking it might be a haze cross. definitely a lot of confusion in the name.
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