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Kush is a mountain region
Kush is a mountain regionHey there everyone and cheers from Tejas! I have a couple simple questions and I apologize if its a repost; I searched and searched but could not find a definite answer.
What are the original OG strains?
Does anyone know what made them (original OG) so "powerful" and can the effects be mimicked in a pure sativa?
Kush: What qualifies a strain to be a "kush" strain? I thought it was pure indica's but I am seeing ind/sat hybrids and would love some clarification.
Thank you in advance,
Lunchables:D
No the mass super skunk was crossed with the chem and that is where the sour diesel comes from.I believe chems mother was from massachusets super skunk genes if i remember correctly
Damn , SMF is there any strains you don't have any I would concur with you, on both and all chem did was pull some s1 seeds or cross pollinated seeds from a oz of weed that someone else grew , would really put a end to this linage if the person who grew the weed chem dog bought was known huh...Original mass super skunk (on left). 91 chemdawg skunkva (on right)
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How do you get many strains out of a clone only plant? I mean seriously times have nothing to do with it. Og is og, that is all. If you grow it then you know it, if not then maybe you take anybody who is willing to sell you seeds at their word. Fact is a strain is a strain, there is only one og kush, if you have a variety of og because of a cross then the parents should be acknowledged. How do you know my theory is incorrect? what theory are you speaking of? the fact that og came from chem? or that there are many og's out there? Even writing that sentence does not make sense.
interesting theory never thought of that makes sense .... and yes we are having a discussion without arguing cant do that in a GSC thread ....lolThere are lots of stories about the og kush background.....I don't rule out any of them and like to hear what others have heard always. Makes it somewhat exciting....especially when no one is fighting about it lol..
Here is a mind blower to add to the whole equation....
Chem said when he popped the original seeds he found in the bag of "Chem" he found a male and tossed it as he was young and didn't think to make f2 or do any breeding with it. If infact those seeds he found were from a herm.....they would all be females. No male would be possible to be found in that stock. So my belief is there was a male around and pollen carried to the original strain of buds that chem had bought or that there is someone out there that actual worked the chem line....
Over the years iv stressed a few plants (moving, light leaks ext ext) and got beans from the plant throwing out an occasional nanner. Iv popped tons of these seeds to see what the outcome is and iv yet to ever find a single male.
Just some food for thought....like I always say, I don't know everything and there are tons who know more than I. I just like to share stuff I think about or results I find. ~Smf~
lets not start off on the wrong foot. I am very aware of theory, and the definition. Talking to loompa and ken estes by no means debunks my theory. The legend of og is difficult to prove. Let me ask you a few questions: Are you older than 30? How long have you been growing? Why do you think there are multiple og's, is it because of what these seed breeders are saying? Just curious. There can not be multiple og kush's, it is not a genus of cannabis but a strain.I've grown multiple OG's and they've been quite different phenotypes. If they where all cuts from the same plant they would be identical.
Oo and let me define theory: "Theory is a contemplative and rational type of abstract or generalizing thinking, or the results of such thinking. Depending on the context, the results might for example include generalized explanations of how nature works, or even how divine or metaphysical matters are thought to work. "
Your theory is a theory because you are saying that there is one OG Kush. It is unproven and has no evidence. A lot of people know that OG kush came from one of Chems cut; What I'm saying though is that other people have created OG Kush's from a special cut in their arsenal. It really isn't that foreign of an Idea.
I met Loompa and Ken Estes at the SF Cannabis cup. One of the questions I asked them was how they got their OG Kush's. They where found much like how Chem found his, Growing multiple seedlings and Phenotyping. The Same way GDP was created.
Chobble.
lets not start off on the wrong foot. I am very aware of theory, and the definition. Talking to loompa and ken estes by no means debunks my theory. The legend of og is difficult to prove. Let me ask you a few questions: Are you older than 30? How long have you been growing? Why do you think there are multiple og's, is it because of what these seed breeders are saying? Just curious. There can not be multiple og kush's, it is not a genus of cannabis but a strain.
What I'm saying though is that other people have created OG Kush's from a special cut in their arsenal. It really isn't that foreign of an Idea.
thanks for the honest answer and it was what i suspected, more or less. I think that in order to have different "phenos" that would mean that there was an actual cross with a mother and a father and some phenos lean mom and others lean toward the dad or outliers that would resemble lineage further back. You see og was never created this way, I live very close to Lake Tahoe and was lucky enough to start smoking og in 04. This is a very distinct strain with a very unique growing pattern. I am very aware that people have basterdized it by now, especially with the hermie seeds but I think to say there are phenotypic expressions within the og is wrong. I also would not take anyone willing to name the og after themselves too seriously, they know the truth of weather they got an s1 or an accidental cross.I'm 19. A botany student in Santa Cruz, California. I've been growing for 3 and a half years. I post my backyard grow to share experience I have with others and pick the brains of other skilled cultivators.
I publish a small "newsletter" from the collective I work for as their garden manager handling our mothers and propagation. It doesnt let me add anymore people to the current conversation but I can see about getting you on a second one. Our Master Gardener has his Masters in Botany and has been growing for 35+ Years along with that one of our Board of directors is a Botany professor who has dont so much cannabis related research its not even funny. I put more stock into the science of it. I dont post pictures as I know the owners frown on sites like this(I dont quite understand it but oh well). We only grow our small variety of hierloom strains.
Over the years of volunteering and then getting hired on. I have been educated with more information on our lovely plant then I will probably learn through the rest of my years.
Those heirloom strains beat any OG I have smoked.
I have received archives of Overgrow and read threw all the threads intensely as a lot of good knowledge was lost when the site went down.
Yes their can be more then one OG Kush. I can pick out Larrys OG Kush from Ken Este's OG. They are distinct phenotypes.
I'm just saying that other people developed strains using the OG name, whether its for marketing or not we have to accept that and move on.
Chobble
So basically new jersey gangsters have ALOT in common with cali dispensaries,brother from another mother so to speak...This is really depended on if your in a medical state or not IMHO... i like to think i have a pretty good knowledge on MJ , grower , ton's of reading , all the good info from you peeps , and a passion for the plant, and being it is a non -medical state there are times when I need to visit the gangsters if a harvest is not ready or can't flower (was moving) and I have yet to come across any gangster who knows what they are selling , its always Kush , I got the good kush ....lol and I have to bite my tongue and hold back from saying kid you have no idea what you are selling. ex, last time i heard i got the kush it was actually a diesel strain imo......"what's a chemistry nerd doing living in the ghetto" lol.....jk
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