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They seem pretty straight forward but yeah lol I can see ppl messing em up. It's mixed then diluted and fed in ml so I think i can handle that. It seems a lot cheaper and I won't have to account for any nutrient adjustments. Both not easy to find in...
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They seem pretty straight forward but yeah lol I can see ppl messing em up. It's mixed then diluted and fed in ml so I think i can handle that. It seems a lot cheaper and I won't have to account for any nutrient adjustments. Both not easy to find in Canada though
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I'm curious to see what you find. I'm always open to a massive replacement. I just like massives NPK and all the extra bullshit it has in it. It's like a one stop booster shop.
 
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I'm curious to see what you find. I'm always open to a massive replacement. I just like massives NPK and all the extra bullshit it has in it. It's like a one stop booster shop.
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Yeah i need to do some tweeking this next run so I'll be looking at some other additions to some of which are in massive so I need to calculate what the most cost effective and versatile.
 
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Yeah i need to do some tweeking this next run so I'll be looking at some other additions to some of which are in massive so I need to calculate what the most cost effective and versatile.
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FWIW, massive is hard to beat. I know a lot of dudes using it. 4L will last me about 3 full cycles for $70.
 
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FWIW, massive is hard to beat. I know a lot of dudes using it. 4L will last me about 3 full cycles for $70.
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You pick it up local?
 
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You pick it up local?
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Yep, grow shop I use carries it. Most do. Mind you GP is a local company based out of Surrey BC.
 
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Yep, grow shop I use carries it. Most do.
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Hmm may need ya to pm me if I can't and they ship. Got some time yet but you make a good case its some of the extra goodies in there im also after so it may just be less hassle and headache to go with that.
 
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Hmm may need ya to pm me if I can't and they ship. Got some time yet but you make a good case its some of the extra goodies in there im also after so it may just be less hassle and headache to go with that.
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I'm 100% all about making my grow as easy as possible to manage these days. If I can get a single product that supplements all the woo in one convienant dose, I'm all about that. Massive has proven itself to me countless grows now. Shit works man.
 
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I'm 100% all about making my grow as easy as possible to manage these days. If I can get a single product that supplements all the woo in one convienant dose, I'm all about that. Massive has proven itself to me countless grows now. Shit works man.
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Read a lot of great reviews. The rest of the line seems redundant and a waste but from all accounts I can find massive is the real deal.
 
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Read a lot of great reviews. The rest of the line seems redundant and a waste but from all accounts I can find massive is the real deal.
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It is. It's the first booster they made and it contains everything that is in all their other shit. It's the OG, and really the only one worth using imho. Im going to pyramid dose this cycle from 10ml/g a week before flip to 15 by end of stretch, back down to 10 by week 7. It really is like putting the plant on plant testosterone.
 
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It is. It's the first booster they made and it contains everything that is in all their other shit. It's the OG, and really the only one worth using imho. Im going to pyramid dose this cycle from 10ml/g a week before flip to 15 by end of stretch, back down to 10 by week 7. It really is like putting the plant on plant testosterone.
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Yeah exactly the same both are growth hormones. I had experience with one now looking for experience with the other
 
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Phytohormones are interesting things. Tria only really works on a certain class of plants considered C3 I think, but cannabis is in that class.

I like analogies, and i think of PGR's like this; stuff like paclobutrazol is like masteron or maybe even deca, where triacontanol is like testosterone. It just gives the plants a slightly unnatural edge that appears natural lol. And tria is naturally sourced from beeswax with Massive, but a lot of brands source it from alfalfa which is a bit cheaper.
 
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Phytohormones are interesting things. Tria only really works on a certain class of plants considered C3 I think, but cannabis is in that class.

I like analogies, and i think of PGR's like this; stuff like paclobutrazol is like masteron or maybe even deca, where triacontanol is like testosterone. It just gives the plants a slightly unnatural edge that appears natural lol. And tria is naturally sourced from beeswax with Massive, but a lot of brands source it from alfalfa which is a bit cheaper.
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How it works is actually very interesting. I would not lump it in with other pgrs. Its like the organic version of steroids. Also the use of myco and bacteria imo are an absolute must to get the most out of it. Again it all ties together with the root zone and microbiology. The more research I do on it the more I'm wondering wtf have I not used this. So appreciate you bringing it up. I always just dismissed any pgr but this is not just another pgr.

But one thing I keep seeing is it works best as a foliar by itself. So I need to do more research on that
 
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How it works is actually very interesting. I would not lump it in with other pgrs. Its like the organic version of steroids. Also the use of myco and bacteria imo are an absolute must to get the most out of it. Again it all ties together with the root zone and microbiology. The more research I do on it the more I'm wondering wtf have I not used this. So appreciate you bringing it up. I always just dismissed any pgr but this is not just another pgr.

But one thing I keep seeing is it works best as a foliar by itself. So I need to do more research on that
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Fuckin bingo dude. Exactly. You will really like it I promise lol.

As for the foliar thing, I dont know about that, I've seen massive do amazing things to well known strains grown under the same conditions. Could be just difficult to get it into a solution for root uptake. I'm pretty sure several lines use it like canna boost and a few others so I think it can be done.
 
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Can you guys link this super product for me please, gentlemen
 
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Phytohormones are interesting things. Tria only really works on a certain class of plants considered C3 I think, but cannabis is in that class.

I like analogies, and i think of PGR's like this; stuff like paclobutrazol is like masteron or maybe even deca, where triacontanol is like testosterone. It just gives the plants a slightly unnatural edge that appears natural lol. And tria is naturally sourced from beeswax with Massive, but a lot of brands source it from alfalfa which is a bit cheaper.
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Yep. Thanks to y'all nerding out, alfalfa meal is definitely going in my feed/bloom mix.
 
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I'll go back and read over the rest of thread tomorrow
 
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Phytohormones are interesting things. Tria only really works on a certain class of plants considered C3 I think, but cannabis is in that class.

I like analogies, and i think of PGR's like this; stuff like paclobutrazol is like masteron or maybe even deca, where triacontanol is like testosterone. It just gives the plants a slightly unnatural edge that appears natural lol. And tria is naturally sourced from beeswax with Massive, but a lot of brands source it from alfalfa which is a bit cheaper.
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Oh but masteron was amazing and deca I wish I could find some decent shot these days and take at a low dose. The joints would thank me. Not known as the healing steroid for nothing. equipoise and test was a nice easy on the body. I did Tren ace and that shit was nasty bit super effective. I think the worst stack I did was Test E with tren and frontloaded with anadrol. Effective but my God hard on the body and you better have clomid on hand lol
 
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Can you guys link this super product for me please, gentlemen
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Oh but masteron was amazing and deca I wish I could find some decent shot these days and take at a low dose. The joints would thank me. Not known as the healing steroid for nothing. equipoise and test was a nice easy on the body. I did Tren ace and that shit was nasty bit super effective. I think the worst stack I did was Test E with tren and frontloaded with anadrol. Effective but my God hard on the body and you better have clomid on hand lol
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Man I feel sorry for your nutz lol
 
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Man I feel sorry for your nutz lol
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Lol what nuts... kidding I always cycled and had blood tests as I went. My doctor at one point refused tonsee me anymore if I carried on. Guess what cycle that was...lol

But yeah man late cycle was like well... let's just say 2 peas on a pod. This of course was over 20 yrs ago. I wouldn't dare put the shit they have now into my system. Atleast not from any source i know.
 
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