This Be How Dirbag Do...

[Dragonsflame]

Ordered! I assume the one by Simmons.

yep!

The flow charts of breeding programs are worth the price by themselves!

 

[cemchris]

Well bro you have never steered me wrong. I'm always willing to give something a shot.

 

[Dirtbag]

Well bro you have never steered me wrong. I'm always willing to give something a shot.

I think you'll be surprised how good it works. It can be home mixed but you have to dissolve it in polysorbate 20 first, I just find it easier to use massive.

 

[Dr.Green55]

I havent tried it no.. Honestly, just like every other nutrient lineup I feel like a lot of green planets products are just different variations of the same thing. Massive I believe was one of their first and best selling products and has all that good stuff like gibberellic acid, tria, aminos, fulvic, yucca, trace elements etc. I find it works very well on it's own.

yeah basically the same thing I think with sugar, just without the P and K if you didn't need that

 

[Aqua Man]

@Dirtbag the recommend 20ml per gal is that the dosage you use? I may look into massive or other next grow.

 

[Dirtbag]

@Dirtbag the recommend 20ml per gal is that the dosage you use? I may look into massive or other next grow.

I start at half that and work up to about 15ml per gal. I never take it up to full strength. It doesnt take a lot of tria to do its thing, and too much can cause other issues.. I also stop using it by week 6 or 7. Used too late in the cycle and it can potentially cause nanners.

 

[Aqua Man]

I start at half that and work up to about 15ml per gal. I never take it up to full strength. It doesnt take a lot of tria to do its thing, and too much can cause other issues.. I also stop using it by week 6 or 7. Used too late in the cycle and it can potentially cause nanners.

Perfect thanks for rhe info.

 

[Dirtbag]

The pieces are starting to come together for me. I was a bit puzzled by the process @Dragonsflame used to create the BMS bx1 by using the mac male to pollinate a BMS, then selecting a male from the offspring to back cross with the BMS mom. I wondered, why not just release the mac x bms cross? But I now see, or am at least assuming that it was a very clever use of outbreeding by bringing the mac on board to increase the number of dominant alleles in the genome, while still keeping the BMS line dominant. Very clever, and very smart breeding. The more I read, the more money I'm putting away to buy more DFG seeds lol.

 

[Dr.Green55]

The pieces are starting to come together for me. I was a bit puzzled by the process @Dragonsflame used to create the BMS bx1 by using the mac male to pollinate a BMS, then selecting a male from the offspring to back cross with the BMS mom. I wondered, why not just release the mac x bms cross? But I now see, or am at least assuming that it was a very clever use of outbreeding by bringing the mac on board to increase the number of dominant alleles in the genome, while still keeping the BMS line dominant. Very clever, and very smart breeding. The more I read, the more money I'm putting away to buy more DFG seeds lol.

Agree Dirt , I didn't know about him until SSHZ mentioned something, after a little searching it didn't take long o see he was doing things right, I have quite a list of his stuff I want to run.

 

[Dirtbag]

@cemchris, does this count as bottles?

Gotta share one for JTE... Rip. Gone too soon. Thought he'd be the next John Prine.

 

[Dirtbag]

Pics are maybe a bit redundant lol, but I swear they're looking better every day. Waiting on a few of the smaller ones to get big enough for taking cuttings, then we flip... Figure by this weekend or shortly thereafter. Maybe even next weekend. Gotta keep reminding myself that I want this room overcrowded before flip.

 

[Milson]

Pics are maybe a bit redundant lol, but I swear they're looking better every day. Waiting on a few of the smaller ones to get big enough for taking cuttings, then we flip... Figure by this weekend or shortly thereafter. Maybe even next weekend. Gotta keep reminding myself that I want this room overcrowded before flip.View attachment 1021616View attachment 1021617

How old again? They are absolutely beautiful.

 

[Dirtbag]

How old again? They are absolutely beautiful.

Thanks Mil, seed plants are almost 5 weeks from germination, clones are at about a week and a half- 2 weeks since popping roots.

 

[Milson]

Thanks Mil, seed plants are almost 5 weeks from germination, clones are at about a week and a half- 2 weeks since popping roots.

If I can have my garden that green right before flip on this new run, I'll have a big smile on my face.

 

[Aqua Man]

Pics are maybe a bit redundant lol, but I swear they're looking better every day. Waiting on a few of the smaller ones to get big enough for taking cuttings, then we flip... Figure by this weekend or shortly thereafter. Maybe even next weekend. Gotta keep reminding myself that I want this room overcrowded before flip.View attachment 1021616View attachment 1021617

Not redundant at all. Easy to see the progress and they are hauling ass

 

[Dirtbag]

Not redundant at all. Easy to see the progress and they are hauling ass

Haulin ass is right. Here is a pic from Aug 16th;

And 9 days later;

They got their first dose of Tria tonight... Now they should go nuts.

 

[Aqua Man]

Haulin ass is right. Here is a pic from Aug 16th;
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And 9 days later;View attachment 1021633

They got their first dose of Tria tonight... Now they should go nuts.

You using the massive? I was thinking of just ordering the kits.

Cough* co2 Cough*

 

[Dirtbag]

You using the massive? I was thinking of just ordering the kits.

I'm using massive at 10ml/g for the next week. And yeah the powder kits work I'm sure, just be careful with the mixing not to overdose the plants. I've read a few horror stories from people going the powder/p20 route. With massive it doesnt get much easier and I dont need to worry about fucking it up somehow lol.

 

[Dirtbag]

Cough* co2 Cough*

Hahaha, stop it dude... I dont think it's ever gonna happen.

 

[Aqua Man]

I'm using massive at 10ml/g for the next week. And yeah the powder kits work I'm sure, just be careful with the mixing not to overdose the plants. I've read a few horror stories from people going the powder/p20 route. With massive it doesnt get much easier and I dont need to worry about fucking it up somehow lol.

They seem pretty straight forward but yeah lol I can see ppl messing em up. It's mixed then diluted and fed in ml so I think i can handle that. It seems a lot cheaper and I won't have to account for any nutrient adjustments. Both not easy to find in Canada though