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Ohhh it spreads both by biting insect and water borne pathogens.
Any leaf curling? Like 90° right or left from the center of the leaf? Not the entire leaf but one or two of the leaflets? Looks like tmv for certain. Some strains continue just fine, others slow down tremendously, some aren't effected at all. I live with it. It's in the grow op and I doubt I can rid it any way. I picked up 50 clones, less than half of them contracted it. Good luck!
Mosaic viruses (notice that I'm not calling it tobacco specifically, because I don't know if it is TMV) will cause variegation like that. It also causes leaf twisting, as toquer says, and in fact my experience is much as toquer's, although I've never actually had a plant stall and do nothing when it's shown that.So it could be?? TMV I got other strains I done same time and all fine it's just 2 doctors?
No aspect of husbandry is known to cause what you're observing.Yes the odd leaf and it's like bits of leaf have just disappeared??? I grew them from seed and have spoken to ghs who were quick to blame me, over water and under watering and nutes and so on... but I've tested run off on number of occasions and all perfect, so is temp and humidity.
If the growth is slow, then you may want to pop some more beans, just to be safe.
Mosaic viruses (notice that I'm not calling it tobacco specifically, because I don't know if it is TMV) will cause variegation like that. It also causes leaf twisting, as toquer says, and in fact my experience is much as toquer's, although I've never actually had a plant stall and do nothing when it's shown that.
No aspect of husbandry is known to cause what you're observing.
Yes, that's why I suggested also "sports" similar to what we now have in so many houseplants. From variegation, to curly leaves, to double flowers and so on.My other thought was genetic
Physically it appears to resemble a mosaic virus to me.Does this look like a Mosaic Virus to anyone else?
Re: What is this? Frustrated Big Time! PLS HELP!!
Community please listen up:
Every time I see someone with these problems experienced growers always reply that it is due to over feeding etc. those are always legit responses, always great things to check. But in reality what I see over and over again is hemp mosaic virus or tobacco mosaic virus. Please please community look into this issue and the characteristics of the virus as it is becoming an incredibly huge epidemic as friends pass it along with cuttings.
In veg you can identify it when:
1) the leaf tip turns almost on a 90 degree angle
2) leaf variegation
3) almost looks a little mutated
4) slower than normal growth rates
If you didn't catch it in veg then here are the characteristics in flower:
1) will normally show it's ugly head in weeks 2 to 4 of flower
2) if you are experienced, they'll will automatically think that something is wrong with your recipe (nothing wrong, it's the virus, only applies to experienced guys)
3) plants will look as if someone literally poured bleach on you tops ( this is why it is usually confused with too high of ppm or over feeding)
4) the plant will try to repair itself and you will think that it will, but you will realize that you were dead wrong in week 5 or 6 ( unfortunately I know from personal experience) took me months to finally identify it.)
5) everyone will tell you at you are over feeding, and I'm not saying that it might not be the case if you are a newbie, but if you've put in your time you should know better.
One of the best solutions is aspirin. Read up on it please guys and learn to identify it at the clone stage.
THIS WILL BE AN EPIDEMIC OTHERWISE..
Dispensaries have it and the people that run the clones ( clone managers) don't even know what it is...most of them dip the rock wool in a common tray so that means if one comes in with it they now all have it...
Think about it:
Harborside has thousands of little guys ( yes I got some infestations from them before), also from organican, ( which blows me away because the lady at Organicann actually knows her shit, she had a couple of mothers that were infected sitting on the counter and even told me so), blows me away that she would have it there with their vast array of little guys. Same with Harborside.
I hope this helps someone to quickly identify and correct the issue. I now assume everything has it and treat them with aspirin from the beginning just as a precaution.
If anyone has any questions hit me up, I wish I had pics of what it looks like but a quick google search will bring some up.
Good luck fam!
lPC
I have been on many boards and I get the same response, nute burn and bugs. I've flushed and used spray but I think this is classic Mosaic Virus, you can see cut or lesions, holes, missing pieces from leaves, bent leaves, dying brown leaves & odd discoloration. What am we do for treatment? I'm trying the aspirin foliar spray right now.Re: What is this? Frustrated Big Time! PLS HELP!!
Community please listen up:
Every time I see someone with these problems experienced growers always reply that it is due to over feeding etc. those are always legit responses, always great things to check. But in reality what I see over and over again is hemp mosaic virus or tobacco mosaic virus. Please please community look into this issue and the characteristics of the virus as it is becoming an incredibly huge epidemic as friends pass it along with cuttings.
In veg you can identify it when:
1) the leaf tip turns almost on a 90 degree angle
2) leaf variegation
3) almost looks a little mutated
4) slower than normal growth rates
If you didn't catch it in veg then here are the characteristics in flower:
1) will normally show it's ugly head in weeks 2 to 4 of flower
2) if you are experienced, they'll will automatically think that something is wrong with your recipe (nothing wrong, it's the virus, only applies to experienced guys)
3) plants will look as if someone literally poured bleach on you tops ( this is why it is usually confused with too high of ppm or over feeding)
4) the plant will try to repair itself and you will think that it will, but you will realize that you were dead wrong in week 5 or 6 ( unfortunately I know from personal experience) took me months to finally identify it.)
5) everyone will tell you at you are over feeding, and I'm not saying that it might not be the case if you are a newbie, but if you've put in your time you should know better.
One of the best solutions is aspirin. Read up on it please guys and learn to identify it at the clone stage.
THIS WILL BE AN EPIDEMIC OTHERWISE..
Dispensaries have it and the people that run the clones ( clone managers) don't even know what it is...most of them dip the rock wool in a common tray so that means if one comes in with it they now all have it...
Think about it:
Harborside has thousands of little guys ( yes I got some infestations from them before), also from organican, ( which blows me away because the lady at Organicann actually knows her shit, she had a couple of mothers that were infected sitting on the counter and even told me so), blows me away that she would have it there with their vast array of little guys. Same with Harborside.
I hope this helps someone to quickly identify and correct the issue. I now assume everything has it and treat them with aspirin from the beginning just as a precaution.
If anyone has any questions hit me up, I wish I had pics of what it looks like but a quick google search will bring some up.
Good luck fam!
lPC
No sign of bugs/eggs. What could it be?That does not at all resemble mosaic virus to me.
Re: What is this? Frustrated Big Time! PLS HELP!!
Community please listen up:
Every time I see someone with these problems experienced growers always reply that it is due to over feeding etc. those are always legit responses, always great things to check. But in reality what I see over and over again is hemp mosaic virus or tobacco mosaic virus. Please please community look into this issue and the characteristics of the virus as it is becoming an incredibly huge epidemic as friends pass it along with cuttings.
In veg you can identify it when:
1) the leaf tip turns almost on a 90 degree angle
2) leaf variegation
3) almost looks a little mutated
4) slower than normal growth rates
If you didn't catch it in veg then here are the characteristics in flower:
1) will normally show it's ugly head in weeks 2 to 4 of flower
2) if you are experienced, they'll will automatically think that something is wrong with your recipe (nothing wrong, it's the virus, only applies to experienced guys)
3) plants will look as if someone literally poured bleach on you tops ( this is why it is usually confused with too high of ppm or over feeding)
4) the plant will try to repair itself and you will think that it will, but you will realize that you were dead wrong in week 5 or 6 ( unfortunately I know from personal experience) took me months to finally identify it.)
5) everyone will tell you at you are over feeding, and I'm not saying that it might not be the case if you are a newbie, but if you've put in your time you should know better.
One of the best solutions is aspirin. Read up on it please guys and learn to identify it at the clone stage.
THIS WILL BE AN EPIDEMIC OTHERWISE..
Dispensaries have it and the people that run the clones ( clone managers) don't even know what it is...most of them dip the rock wool in a common tray so that means if one comes in with it they now all have it...
Think about it:
Harborside has thousands of little guys ( yes I got some infestations from them before), also from organican, ( which blows me away because the lady at Organicann actually knows her shit, she had a couple of mothers that were infected sitting on the counter and even told me so), blows me away that she would have it there with their vast array of little guys. Same with Harborside.
I hope this helps someone to quickly identify and correct the issue. I now assume everything has it and treat them with aspirin from the beginning just as a precaution.
If anyone has any questions hit me up, I wish I had pics of what it looks like but a quick google search will bring some up.
Good luck fam!
lPC
hi, helpRe: What is this? Frustrated Big Time! PLS HELP!!
Community please listen up:
Every time I see someone with these problems experienced growers always reply that it is due to over feeding etc. those are always legit responses, always great things to check. But in reality what I see over and over again is hemp mosaic virus or tobacco mosaic virus. Please please community look into this issue and the characteristics of the virus as it is becoming an incredibly huge epidemic as friends pass it along with cuttings.
In veg you can identify it when:
1) the leaf tip turns almost on a 90 degree angle
2) leaf variegation
3) almost looks a little mutated
4) slower than normal growth rates
If you didn't catch it in veg then here are the characteristics in flower:
1) will normally show it's ugly head in weeks 2 to 4 of flower
2) if you are experienced, they'll will automatically think that something is wrong with your recipe (nothing wrong, it's the virus, only applies to experienced guys)
3) plants will look as if someone literally poured bleach on you tops ( this is why it is usually confused with too high of ppm or over feeding)
4) the plant will try to repair itself and you will think that it will, but you will realize that you were dead wrong in week 5 or 6 ( unfortunately I know from personal experience) took me months to finally identify it.)
5) everyone will tell you at you are over feeding, and I'm not saying that it might not be the case if you are a newbie, but if you've put in your time you should know better.
One of the best solutions is aspirin. Read up on it please guys and learn to identify it at the clone stage.
THIS WILL BE AN EPIDEMIC OTHERWISE..
Dispensaries have it and the people that run the clones ( clone managers) don't even know what it is...most of them dip the rock wool in a common tray so that means if one comes in with it they now all have it...
Think about it:
Harborside has thousands of little guys ( yes I got some infestations from them before), also from organican, ( which blows me away because the lady at Organicann actually knows her shit, she had a couple of mothers that were infected sitting on the counter and even told me so), blows me away that she would have it there with their vast array of little guys. Same with Harborside.
I hope this helps someone to quickly identify and correct the issue. I now assume everything has it and treat them with aspirin from the beginning just as a precaution.
If anyone has any questions hit me up, I wish I had pics of what it looks like but a quick google search will bring some up.
Good luck fam!
lPC
Looks like micro def, iron or boronIs this t.m.v. I've looked for days on multiple forums and nothing. I found a pic on googled that led me to this thread so I joined in hopes that one of u have the knowledge and patience to help me understand this and what my best option is. 1000 thank you in advance. May love light and an abundance of peace be provided to u and all your loved ones.
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