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Try # Well Crap Been So Many Lost Count

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dan1989 said:
I wonder if anyone has ever tried a flush with just plain PH adjusted water in coco? I do routinely and never get any problems. I'd like to know what's wrong with doing that? I don't tell people any crap that I haven't tried and tested myself.
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Because of the cation exchange and the properties of coco. If you use plain water you will wash out the properties that make coco, the median that it is..
Saying that you did it and that your plant didn't die isn't factual info you can base telling someone else to do it. If you hot links to studies proving that theory, I will be more than happy to read them
Until then I will NEVER recommend to use straight water until harvest..
And I give you links to the studies I've read. And I've read a lot and got personal knowledge. ..
 
#23
tinderthumbs said:
im told u all ways give food bc if u flush with pure water there would be 0 food for the plants and it will do more harm then good
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The plants can't drain their food sources immediately. Don't forget that when you stop feeding nutes a couple of weeks before harvest, the leaves don't just immediately turn yellow and start dying. The plant has plenty stored in the leaves etc. And anyway you can start resuming feeds almost straight after. The flush is to build up any deposits stuck in the bottom of your medium. Done it plenty of times with 0 problems. So...?
 
#25
so as u the 50th person that said its ok and there is another 50 that said don't do it im just going with what I have been told and read in grow books but as u see I ant having any luck


if u doing a flush u are flushing all the salt and built up nute in the soil right???
 
#26
dan1989 said:
The plants can't drain their food sources immediately. Don't forget that when you stop feeding nutes a couple of weeks before harvest, the leaves don't just immediately turn yellow and start dying. The plant has plenty stored in the leaves etc. And anyway you can start resuming feeds almost straight after. The flush is to build up any deposits stuck in the bottom of your medium. Done it plenty of times with 0 problems. So...?
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Cation exchange. .. and why would you want to devoid your plant of nutrients? Of all nutrients?
 
#27
no I have sunshine mix that is a coco when I say soil I mean medium In my had soil is just the stuff u grow in that ant hydro all ways forget soil is on its own as coco and hydro are there own so Im sorry for that mix up
 
#28
Man you want a easy no fuss garden switch to this simple mix man. 1 bail of promix 2 bags of ocean forest and a bag of worm castings 4 tbls of dry food like rainbow grow or roots veg. Mix all that up and water with plain water for like 2 to 5 weeks depending on how much they eat I don't ph but my tap comes out at 6ish every time once I see light yellow I feed bio root at 1.5ml per l of water then next water ill feed them with a quarter cup of dry food per 5 gal bucket and mix then its straight water for 2 more weeks
 
#29
tinderthumbs said:
so as u the 50th person that said its ok and there is another 50 that said don't do it im just going with what I have been told and read in grow books but as u see I ant having any luck


if u doing a flush u are flushing all the salt and built up nute in the soil right???
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My biggest problem tinder is I'm not for sure what to say because I'm very unfamiliar with that soil/coco mix.. I can see why u were confused on the calimag. I would be too. Next time go with coco/hydroton 3/1 mix... and just use sips method. With flora nova grow. 1 nutrient to deal with. Then when you get your game on go back and try these nutrients.. just my thoughts. .
 
#30
Hey I respect what you're saying, and to be honest you're not the first person to say I shouldn't flush with plain water. And others said its okay. But again, with respect, I don't put all my faith in something I read, I believe in things I've tried and tested. Each new bag of coco gets a heavy rinse before going in the pots. Always worked, never had problems.
 
#31
I just got promix the other day been testing it with clones and holy batman they love it never seen roots grow that fast
 
#32
its that 3rd week I all ways feel like its a n def but when I feed the tops get that tip pointing down crap and the bottom still stays yellow so now it looks like n def and tox at the same time
 
#33
tinderthumbs said:
no I have sunshine mix that is a coco when I say soil I mean medium In my had soil is just the stuff u grow in that ant hydro all ways forget soil is on its own as coco and hydro are there own so Im sorry for that mix up
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Oh ok... well I would just limp these plants on to harvest. Start some new clones or seedlings now and get you some simple flora nova grow. You got a pH meter? Ec meter?
If you get them 3 things I promise in a month I get you going good...
Here is what I would try. Imo...
Find a container that you can set your pot in that comes up half way in the pot. When you feed just fill the lower container and let it sip up the water. Once a day. No calimag. Just your basic bloom nutients. And pH to 6.0 Ec 1.6
 
#34
tinderthumbs said:
its that 3rd week I all ways feel like its a n def but when I feed the tops get that tip pointing down crap and the bottom still stays yellow so now it looks like n def and tox at the same time
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The diff and tocidity can look the same.
 
#35
I ph my water every time at 6.5 know its going to drop some ph of run off is 5.7

I have a blue lab 2 way tester
 
#36
dan1989 said:
I wonder if anyone has ever tried a flush with just plain PH adjusted water in coco? I do routinely and never get any problems. I'd like to know what's wrong with doing that? I don't tell people any crap that I haven't tried and tested myself.
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@incogneato @rmoltis you guys flush coco with plain way then let dry for a couple days?
 
#38
tinderthumbs said:
I ph my water every time at 6.5 know its going to drop some ph of run off is 5.7

I have a blue lab 2 way tester
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Well that's to high for coco. . 6.8 for soil and 5.8 to 6.0 for coco..
Don't measure runoff. It's useless. Because of cation exchange and coco releases( can't remember which one) when it takes in Ca. So measurement of ec, or pH is simply not a good measurement. .. imo and many others.
 
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